I'm talking about here and now dude, not in the entirety of history. It's not a pissing contest between which doctrine says the most screwed up thing, it'd probably be a draw. I'm talking about what's relevant in the world today.
Trump and Cruz never said anything about segregation. I'm not going to make any excuses for the lowest common denominator, but any enlightened person can see what is going on in the world today. It doesn't mean anyonee needs to be openly antagonistic and bigoted towards a group of people to get their point across. But you should still be able to identify the problem and insist that it exists and not be chastised for it. Part of me says that people who have a potential for violence are just looking for excuses to do it. But even then, we've only had around 200 people join ISIS from the US, compared to the thousands from different countries in Europe. We don't have the same issues with social integration that some places in Europe have either.
Because the severity and magnitude of such events are still smaller? Because those people aren't being supported and encouraged by a portion of the Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist/Secularist/etc communities in the US or the government itself while the same can't be said about radical Islamic terrorism and foreign populations/governments? One is also an issue of foreign policy while the other isn't, that's yet another reason why it's talked about so much. Seems we generally only care about domestic issues in the immediate aftermath.
And I don't think we should worry about such things as our vetting process and I would caution against people who say we do, but that doesn't mean the topic in general should be verboten or seen as politically incorrect simply because some asshole demagogues like to co-opt the discussion and use it to appeal to the worst of us. That serves no one well.
You think it won't come to segregation? Nothing on Jim Crow laws level, but the Muslim community will still be ostracized and possibly be forced somehow to live in an area or community full of Muslims. That likely won't happen, but I have little to no faith in people, we do ridiculous things out of fear and anger. Yes, Muslim terrorism exists, I would not deny that. I'm more touchy about how innocent Muslims are treated as result of people sayin "Muslim terrorists!" We even had at least one person here who claimed only Muslims could be terrorists, or that terrorism was exclusive only to those who practiced Islam. This is why I get defensive, it's not because I think all Muslims are innocent or good people when I disagree with most of their beliefs and way of life.
I think it's a combination of Muslim extremists wanting a reason to be violent, wanting the world to burn, wantin to feel powerful, and havin their own extremist beliefs. Either way, these people are fucked up to the max for all the shit they do. What I'd like to know is the leaders' motivations. I can't imagine they're doing it completely in the name of Mohammad and Islam given they're willing to kill other Muslims and destroy even ancient mosques. Europe is closer to MENA, I guess, and it's easier. I've read stories of how many EUropean girls ran away to join ISIS.
Depends, but I guess you're right in that the attacks aren't supported by the people of same religion, political affiliation, or whatnot as opposed to some Muslims agreeing with the terrorists' acts. But I'd love to know why MENA leaders aren't doing more to combat ISIS and other terrorist groups. They could do a lot to help us against the terrorist groups.
Interestingly, I've seen no one bat an eye at all the attacks and tragedies going on in Middle East or Africa. If anything happens in the West, people will be quick to change their profile photo to the filter of the flag of affected nation and talk about the tragedy while condemning the ISIS or Muslims, many times in a violent way. But no one seems to even mention anything that goes on in MENA or Africa, despite horrific acts takin place nearly every day. Whenever America offers condolences, it also brings up the danger to the nation and policing the Muslims who have done nothing.
It has nothin to do with politically incorrect and more to do with focusing on the wrong stuff. I don't mind some concern with the vetting process, but some politicians are lying outright about the whole process and people are believing in it and trying to prevent refugees from entering the country despite them coming for years and almost every refugee doing no harm. It's fear-mongering filled with lies and unfounded suspicions, and that's disgusting. there are better things to focus on, like finding ways to destroy ISIS and killing their ability to recruit pawns and human weapons.
I agree with Bernie when he said our enemy is a group of people, not a religion. I'm likely misquoting.
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