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Yeah, dunno why or who approved a lifetime appointment for judges, especially when they tend to be so out of touch way later in their old age. But on the other hand, it'd be shitty if we kept getting more conservative judges.
 

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At this point I don't even know if packing the court would even help anything. Court packing would be motivated at this point because half of the people in the country believe most justices are partisan hacks who are there to do mostly ideological/religious mumbo jumbo. Court packing will satisfy half the country but in turn leave the other half of the country with the impression that the other side filled the court with their satanic partisan hacks. Court packing is more a war tactic to pressure at this point but it's not actually a fix to the system. It doesn't result in a workable system...
 

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Sounds great

So how do we feel about Biden packing the court?
Sounds like a plan. Turnabout's fair play.
 

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At this point I don't even know if packing the court would even help anything. Court packing would be motivated at this point because half of the people in the country believe most justices are partisan hacks who are there to do mostly ideological/religious mumbo jumbo. Court packing will satisfy half the country but in turn leave the other half of the country with the impression that the other side filled the court with their satanic partisan hacks. Court packing is more a war tactic to pressure at this point but it's not actually a fix to the system. It doesn't result in a workable system...
It would restore balance to their decisions. Before Trump the court was basically 4-4-1, now it's 6-3 with Roberts occasionally being a swing vote, but not really.

At this point the 6 that are there see fit to use the Constitution to edge the country closer and closer to a theocracy, and of course that's music to many conservative's ears. Both with that school prayer case going 6-3 and Roe v Wade being overturned. The forced-birth argument is just always going to be a religious one, regardless of how feebly some try to hide it. And it's the same with the rulings regarding same sex marriage and yes, even interracial marriage.

What needs to happen is Biden needs to add 2-3 more Justices... hell, barring political reasons I'd say just add 4. Conservatives will cry about it, but they'll cry about anything. Then when the GOP has power they'll do the same thing and it'll be reciprocal. At some point there will be 50 Justices hearing the cases and it might actually make more sense as far as seeking a consensus on important legal matters go. That and maybe both the Democrats and the Republicans will see how the road they got there was stupid but necessary and pass an Amendment giving Justices a 10 year term limit or something. Judicial Review should not be up to 9 people who aren't capable of being held accountable. Just look at Thomas' conflict of interests over the years, he doesn't give a fuck because he's untouchable.
 

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Personally, I think our politicians, especially republicans, are way too childish to realize what led to so many judges and will instead keep fighting to add more judges instead of limiting terms or anything else.
 

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It would restore balance to their decisions. Before Trump the court was basically 4-4-1, now it's 6-3 with Roberts occasionally being a swing vote, but not really.

At this point the 6 that are there see fit to use the Constitution to edge the country closer and closer to a theocracy, and of course that's music to many conservative's ears. Both with that school prayer case going 6-3 and Roe v Wade being overturned. The forced-birth argument is just always going to be a religious one, regardless of how feebly some try to hide it. And it's the same with the rulings regarding same sex marriage and yes, even interracial marriage.

What needs to happen is Biden needs to add 2-3 more Justices... hell, barring political reasons I'd say just add 4. Conservatives will cry about it, but they'll cry about anything. Then when the GOP has power they'll do the same thing and it'll be reciprocal. At some point there will be 50 Justices hearing the cases and it might actually make more sense as far as seeking a consensus on important legal matters go. That and maybe both the Democrats and the Republicans will see how the road they got there was stupid but necessary and pass an Amendment giving Justices a 10 year term limit or something. Judicial Review should not be up to 9 people who aren't capable of being held accountable. Just look at Thomas' conflict of interests over the years, he doesn't give a fuck because he's untouchable.
I get the math, my point is more about whether this is a workable system that doesn't result in people just setting the scotus building on fire along with everything else.

So... just tank the scotus until it loops back around to sanity? Why not, I don't have better ideas on this tbh.
 

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I get the math, my point is more about whether this is a workable system that doesn't result in people just setting the scotus building on fire along with everything else.

So... just tank the scotus until it loops back around to sanity? Why not, I don't have better ideas on this tbh.
This or solutions even half as bold as this will never happen because Democrats only act when it'll help win them elections. Republicans just don't give a fuck so they do whatever they want.

They're siphoning money right now off of people due to Roe being overturned.
 

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This or solutions even half as bold as this will never happen because Democrats only act when it'll help win them elections. Republicans just don't give a fuck so they do whatever they want.

They're siphoning money right now off of people due to Roe being overturned.
Welp, the upside I suppose is that even top donors are being scammed this time around (unless they don't care for abortion I suppose).
 

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Ineffectual cunts
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Continue to "play nice" and by the "rules" as more and more rights are stripped away from your voters. See what that gets you.
 

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Figured Biden couldn't be trusted as soon as he talked about working with republicans and trying to meet the middle ground.
 

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I mean, I don't know whether that tidbit changes much, just makes him look more unhinged. Don't think he needed the help there if it's fake.
 

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The fact that there were candid conversations about invoking the 25h amendment with his own staff shows that Trump's cognitive decline is apparent even to his own staff. But that's not the underlying issue with him. The fact that Trump is a narcissistic sociopath is the main reason he is mentally unfit to be president, as well as the main reason he is not to be underestimated at all.
 

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Didn't take particularly long. I wanna hear why this is okay.
 

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It's never been about abortion. Many people who oppose abortion also oppose methods that would lower abortions, like access to "free" contraception. Rather, it's a stealth issue for inflicting more pain and punishment on people since so many people perceive their fellow neighbors/family members to be moral failures for the crime of being born.
 

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It's also the obfuscation of what 95% of abortions are with some manufactured scenario of throngs of women having late-term abortions out of convenience.

It's a malicious lie willingly being told by those backed by religious death-cults. A family friend wasn't able to have a late-term abortion after a stillbirth, she was forced to carry it to term anyway and was ill in the hospital for weeks because of it.

If those that are pro-forced birth see nothing wrong with those kinds of things happening, then it's clear they want these things to be happening. If you're pro-choice, never accept anyone calling the opposite "pro-life", because that's obviously not what they are.
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It's just kind of crazy how pro-personal freedom some of these conservatives can be EXCEPT when it comes to this issue. And it just so happens to be something only those with uteruses can experience... wow what a coincidence!
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In a way it almost feels hopeless to even complain about at this point, since the highest court is on a freight train barreling towards a new theocratic utopia and Democrats would rather treat this as a fundraising opportunity.
 

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The current iteration of the "far left" is doing radical things like talking about the shortcomings of existing power structures, advocating for human rights, or looking at the USA's implementation of capitalism with a critical eye. Meanwhile the "far right" is busy living in a fucking alternate dimension and making a ghastly demon-spawn like Liz Cheney look somewhat sane.
 
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