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I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but nearly all Israelis and foreigners settling in Israel are connected to the colonization and ethnical cleansing. That's literally how they have homes, because they kicked Palestinians out and/or murdered them.
Not the ones born to the people that took those homes, or the people who moved to Israel AFTER the land and homes were taken.

Okay, African American Israeli colonizers if that makes you feel better. Just as guilty if they claim birthright.
You keep adding things, or taking away things from the defining characteristics of the groups I'm mentioning in order to not admit the truth. I never said anything about birthright. Not once. Not ever.

If someone moves to land colonized by other people they are not one of those colonizers. If someone is born to someone who has colonized land they are not a colonizer unless they actively take steps to colonize lands that have not been colonized yet. You are just wrong.

Again, I understand that you know very little about this, and if your source is destiny and whatever he feels like sharing, then I can understand why you don't think kids have been brainwashed into hating Palestinians. The video you showed is the result of them as kids being brainwashed into hating Palestinians and thinking Israel as good.
If I didn't know anything, what would that say about you that you haven't provided information about the history of Israel or Palestine that I wasn't aware of, and ignore historical facts that I post because they are "old"? And I never said kids aren't brainwashed into hating Palestinians. You have this problem where you can't understand why generalization is a bad thing. You want people to believe that every child in Israel is a colonizer. That's anti-semitism. You're doing the exact same things that Republicans who believe black people are inherently criminal do. You're judging them all based on the actions of other Israelis, and you can't understand why that's a bad thing.

Yet Hamas are defending Palestinians and were defending their homes, but you were still condemning them. White Americans may not be actively attacking indigenous people, but look at how indigenous people are forced to live, and instead of doing something to improve their living conditions, white Americans are ignoring them.
October 7th was not self-defense. Self-defense is a response to aggression. If you attack me and I wait until a month later to come to your house and attack you, I'm not defending myself, I'm getting revenge. You're justifying revenge, not self-defense.

I can tell which Israelis are innocent and which are bad. I can't help it if you refuse to understand. You however are the one insisting Hamas are bad, and they're terrorists despite the fact that Israel has consistently been lying, their own hostages have praised Hamas as good, and Hamas existing to defend their people.
You absolutely can not if you're willing to continue defending the stance that all Israeli children are colonizers. And yes, I AM insisting that Hamas are bad, but NOT all of Palestine. Do you truly not understand that the actions of SOME people do not justify treating everyone else in that group as if they've committed those same actions? You're doing it here too:

You're claiming that "their own hostages have praised Hamas as good". But I've posted videos of Israeli hostages who hated their time with Hamas. So has kckk. Did you already forget about the Hamas rapists? I literally just posted a video a page ago about a woman who's sister was raped as a Hamas captive, and Brianna Joy Gray rolled her eyes and pretended it was a lie. If you were honest you'd stop defending Hamas uncritically.

Come to think of it: how did you feel about Palestinian protestors protesting against the October 7th memorial?
 

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That has literally nothing to do with anything... In israel once land has been annexed it's treated like any other land. It's developed and people can invest in it, as in buy it, including homes. Your brooklin nonsense is irrelevant..

It's not wrong. The majority of countries on the planet have standards for who gets to come in and how long they can stay and under what conditions. It's only a faction of the democrat party that is ok with anyone that gets there staying. The incentives here are all twisted by this nonsense. And this isn't even causing problems solely for the US. Every country on the way to the US gets fucked by immigration waves in god knows how many ways. The amount of people who simply die or go missing on the way, the amount that ends up trafficked, the amount of children who end up alone (and ripe for being recruited by gangs), the amount of people who end up doing stuff for organized crime... Every step of the way to the US is hell. And all the aftermath of all that shit is left for countries on the way to the US and the countries from which those people came from to handle. The messaging and policy from the US needs to be one that kills the incentives to take this innaly dangerous trip, not one that encourages people to do it.
It has everything to do with anything.

Aren't most of those related to strict immigration policies that make it harder to enter the country?? And it's not like you can blame immigration for organized crime or children ending up alone, when you have countries like USA separating parents from kids.

Not the ones born to the people that took those homes, or the people who moved to Israel AFTER the land and homes were taken.
Them as well. Nothing stops them from giving back the homes to the Palestinian family that lived there.


You keep adding things, or taking away things from the defining characteristics of the groups I'm mentioning in order to not admit the truth. I never said anything about birthright. Not once. Not ever.

If someone moves to land colonized by other people they are not one of those colonizers. If someone is born to someone who has colonized land they are not a colonizer unless they actively take steps to colonize lands that have not been colonized yet. You are just wrong.
Israel markets "birthright" as an incentive to get Zionists and Jewish people from other countries to move to Israel and take over homes of Palestinians that have been kicked out or murdered. Using that incentive to move to Israel, especially knowing how they're able to get these houses, make them as guilty, when they already have homes in their own countries.

They are just as guilty when they continue the actions of colonizers. If they keep murdering colonized and taking their lands, then they're just as guilty. There's no way around this fact. They are also taking steps to colonize lands that haven't been colonized, to the point that the colonized are now living in tiny areas. Anyone who actually read up on this would know this.



If I didn't know anything, what would that say about you that you haven't provided information about the history of Israel or Palestine that I wasn't aware of, and ignore historical facts that I post because they are "old"? And I never said kids aren't brainwashed into hating Palestinians. You have this problem where you can't understand why generalization is a bad thing. You want people to believe that every child in Israel is a colonizer. That's anti-semitism. You're doing the exact same things that Republicans who believe black people are inherently criminal do. You're judging them all based on the actions of other Israelis, and you can't understand why that's a bad thing.
I've provided information. I'm not sure if you've read it, skipped it, or ignored it.

Er, that's not what anti-Semitism means. And it's not hard to believe that when Israelis themselves said that they were taught to hate Palestinians, until they started questioning things.

Okay, let's ignore me pointing out how Israeli Jews that support Palestine have been attacked by IOF/Israeli police forces, and how other Zionist Jews claimed pro-Palestine Jews weren't real Jews.



October 7th was not self-defense. Self-defense is a response to aggression. If you attack me and I wait until a month later to come to your house and attack you, I'm not defending myself, I'm getting revenge. You're justifying revenge, not self-defense.



You absolutely can not if you're willing to continue defending the stance that all Israeli children are colonizers. And yes, I AM insisting that Hamas are bad, but NOT all of Palestine. Do you truly not understand that the actions of SOME people do not justify treating everyone else in that group as if they've committed those same actions? You're doing it here too:

You're claiming that "their own hostages have praised Hamas as good". But I've posted videos of Israeli hostages who hated their time with Hamas. So has kckk. Did you already forget about the Hamas rapists? I literally just posted a video a page ago about a woman who's sister was raped as a Hamas captive, and Brianna Joy Gray rolled her eyes and pretended it was a lie. If you were honest you'd stop defending Hamas uncritically.

Come to think of it: how did you feel about Palestinian protestors protesting against the October 7th memorial?
Oct 7 is a response to aggression, and they were intending to grab hostages. I think it was to do an exchange with Israel to get their prisoners back..

It's not SOME people, it's the majority of people. Are Israelis doing anything to help Palestinians? Are they trying to stop IOF from killing Palestinians? Are they trying to help Palestinian get aid? Because Israelis are literally blocking Palestinians from getting supplies and are attacking Palestinians that they see.

I literally posted a tweet that screenshotted an article saying they did not find any conclusive evidence to prove Hamas did rape women. On top of that, I posted a link or two that showed IOF have been raping their prisoners, and sodomizing men and boys with objects. Also pointed out that Israel has lied about numerous things and admitted to it weeks or months later, and that they've also threatened or silenced hostages if they said anything good about Hamas. I think one captive even complained that Hamas did not try to rape her, the one that came to USA and attended events like that award show.

I'm honest, which is why I'm not going to criticize a resistance army when they're fighting against an actually evil state who continuously lie and get away with war crimes after war crimes.

If Palestinian protesters protested against the memorial because they thought or knew that IOF caused more deaths than Hamas, then good for them. If they knew that USA and Israel knew Hamas were planning something like this and didn't try to stop them, then I can understand the protest. You're not going to get me to condemn Palestinian supporters, short of them raping anyone or assaulting innocent people.
 

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Them as well. Nothing stops them from giving back the homes to the Palestinian family that lived there.
Ownership does. So does autonomy. And you know that, that's why if Native Americans came to take your home away from you (assuming you live in America), you would NOT let them take it.

Israel markets "birthright" as an incentive to get Zionists and Jewish people from other countries to move to Israel and take over homes of Palestinians that have been kicked out or murdered. Using that incentive to move to Israel, especially knowing how they're able to get these houses, make them as guilty, when they already have homes in their own countries.
I know that, but that has nothing to do with African American Israelis or Ethiopian Israelis. Or the children of the Zionist Israelis that actively took part on the colonization. I chose my example very specifically to make a very specific point. The point being that not every Israeli is connected to the colonizers you want to affiliate them with. And you're trying your damndest to make that connection because you want so badly to justify murdering non-combative Israelis. It's why you keep claiming that October 7th was an act of self-defense instead of a terrorist attack.

They are just as guilty when they continue the actions of colonizers. If they keep murdering colonized and taking their lands, then they're just as guilty. There's no way around this fact.
You just backed yourself into another trap, because I'm going to ask you what actions are considered "actions of colonizers", and you're going to list things that not all Israelis do, which means you'll accidentally prove to me that not all Israelis are colonizers and thus aren't worthy of murder or displacement.

So choose your words carefully.

They are also taking steps to colonize lands that haven't been colonized, to the point that the colonized are now living in tiny areas. Anyone who actually read up on this would know this.
"They," or "some"? You keep wording things as if I'm not gonna catch the generalization and bring attention to it. Anyone who actually read up on this would know that this does not include all Israelis.

Oct 7 is a response to aggression, and they were intending to grab hostages. I think it was to do an exchange with Israel to get their prisoners back..
I know why they did it. It's still not self-defense.

It's not SOME people, it's the majority of people. Are Israelis doing anything to help Palestinians? Are they trying to stop IOF from killing Palestinians? Are they trying to help Palestinian get aid? Because Israelis are literally blocking Palestinians from getting supplies and are attacking Palestinians that they see.
Cool, so now you've fucked up and accidentally admitted that not all Israelis are colonizers. Why it took this long to do so is beyond me, because we both knew how this shit was gonna end lol.

As for "are Israelis doing anything to help Palestinians", they don't have to but yes, there are pro Palestinian Israelis. They just have to not make things extremely vocal thanks to fear of the current Israeli government.


If Palestinian protesters protested against the memorial because they thought or knew that IOF caused more deaths than Hamas, then good for them.
Take a second to re-read what you typed: a memorial for the dead civilians on October 7th was protested, and you think that was a good thing?

If they knew that USA and Israel knew Hamas were planning something like this and didn't try to stop them, then I can understand the protest. You're not going to get me to condemn Palestinian supporters, short of them raping anyone or assaulting innocent people.


I don't believe for a second you'd condemn them for this, because you can't even condemn Hamas for it.
 

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I know that, but that has nothing to do with African American Israelis or Ethiopian Israelis. Or the children of the Zionist Israelis that actively took part on the colonization
Sorry but it has everything to do with them. The moment they know the house, property, land they're leaving in and exploiting was stolen by their parents and don't fuck off, they automatically become inavders.
The only ones who have the rights of ownership are the indigenous people to the land.
I won't condomen anyone for rape, mass muder, ethnic cleansing, genocide, etc, if they didn't implement such attrocities but the genocdial maniacs ofspring are without a doubt thiefs to say the least. They"chose" to live in other people properties despite knowing it's not theirs, causing millions of people to starve in poverty for at least the few next generation, focing them to live under their rules, inforcing their culture and way of life while replacing theirs because of their "choice".
And in the case of israeli society, it's even worse since the thiefs are conditionned since childhood to dehumenize the land owners and treat them as less than animals. Your average isreali civilian is at least responsible for hate speech if he didn't actually kill, rape or displace a palestinian, making them a sick society with maxed stats. As an example, the vast majority of isreali would be proud to kill palestinians, you could see that clearly in their social media accounts.

Also, now that you're talking about ethiopian jews, it doesn't seem like they were well respected nor accepted by the european white population who rule the paria state. Though they more than deserved what happened to them, "chosing" to relocate to the terror organziation called isreal, by their own volition despite knowing they're a genocidal occupation, which automatically turn them into genocidal invaders, they were given drugs which drastically dimishes their fertility, halving their birth rate as a result :
 
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The lack of critical thinking is frustrating. Somehow, descendants that continue the violence are innocent and don't carry the sins of their ancestors, but a resistance group that fights back and is defending Palestinians is somehow evil.

Israel has consistently lied, which they have implied or admitted to so many times after causing destruction and murder.
Israeli hostages' claims of being raped by Hamas were investigated and proven to either be false or likely not true due to lack of evidence.
You also have ICC, /independent UN investigators, and other countries condemning Israel and calling their actions genocide or extermination, but USA and Israel are basically saying "fuck you, we do what we want." Somehow, people are still focused on Hamas and Oct 7, which is the only thing they have versus Palestinians' daily or almost daily videos and pictures of Israel's violence.

Why people protested the "tribute" to Oct 7.

At this point, whoever's focused on Hamas and not on Israel's campaign of genocide against Palestinians are evil and garbage. Not only have Hamas been accused of so many things that weren't true, but to condemn a resistance army trying to protect their people says more about the condemners. The fact that so many people give a half-assed "I don't condone what Israel is doing/I condemn Israel" but focus more on Hamas and bringing up Oct 7 constantly says a lot, especially their ignorance.
 

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Sorry but it has everything to do with them. The moment they know the house, property, land they're leaving in and exploiting was stolen by their parents and don't fuck off, they automatically become inavders.
Wrong.


in·vad·er
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noun

  1. a person or group that invades a country, region, or other place.
    "it is a country that has repelled all invaders"


If the land is already invaded by people generations before you were even born, and then you move to these lands that were colonized by those previous invaders, you're not an invader and you don't owe anyone, anything.

The only ones who have the rights of ownership are the indigenous people to the land.
And unfortunately for the indigenous people, this doesn't grant them anything more than sympathy for their plight, and that's it.

Native Americans have the rights of ownership over America, but the only thing they'll own if they try to decolonize the United States is tear gas, bullets, and thousand-pound bombs.

Also, now that you're talking about ethiopian jews, it doesn't seem like they were well respected nor accepted by the european white population who rule the paria state. Though they more than deserved what happened to them,
The Ethiopans got what they deserved? Jesus what is wrong with you?

The lack of critical thinking is frustrating. Somehow, descendants that continue the violence are innocent and don't carry the sins of their ancestors, but a resistance group that fights back and is defending Palestinians is somehow evil.
I've said over and over again that the children that aren't actively colonizing Israel don't owe Palestinians anything, and denounced the ones that were. You LITERALLY responded to me denouncing them. You're not

Why do you do this? You can be pro-Palestine without being a liar or pro terrorism. Or maybe you can't, because I haven't met one yet that hasn't lied in the pursuit of protecting Hamas.
 

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And trump media shares make it to 25 bucks... With a normal stock this would be a catastrophic fall but in this case I continue to be surprised it holds any value at all. Easiest short in the history of shorts...
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Maybe not the easiest short ever. The fuck is going on....
 

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I mean, Trump's still got a cult following, so what do you expect? I also expect to see him say insane, batshit stuff that'll make him even more popular to his voter base, probably like how he'll give "illegals" death sentence for committing crimes like jaywalking and whatnot.

Small group of people I've observed, but the ones I have have been very loud about "illegals," even though they have no way of knowing who the "illegals" are. Just seems like a dogwhistle to avoid being outright racist, like complaining about DEI/diversity and wokeness. I wouldn't be shocked if the stocks' value skyrocketed, and it probably will do that for a while after the election regardless of the outcome.

Plus didn't Trump promise another Jan 6 if he lost?


I'd actually love to see what'd happen if all of the sudden, he did an 180 on immigration and wasn't a bigot or a white supremacist. Would definitely lose a lot of support.
 

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IIRC something like that did happen in the 2016 election. Trump had softened his stance on immigration, presumably because his aides suggested it, and his supporters were not happy. Then he leaned into the immigration stuff again and his supporters loved it. It was a "trump's back" moment or something to that effect.
 

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I thought his supporters said that he was just outsmarting the left/libs and trying to get them to vote for him instead of Clinton.

But I'm not surprised. Despite what his cult says, the main reason he gets support is because he normalizes bigotry and hatred and puts the blame of everything wrong on people that aren't white, conservative, or American.
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Also, ninjabot was concerned that a veteran self-immolating meant that Palestinian supporters would get more violent towards others (wut??), but so far, a bigoted lady tried to drown two Palestinian kids when she saw the mom with a hijab on. And that's on top of a man stabbing a kid back in October or November, and Zionist Jews shooting Palestinian college students.

And even more pathetic, Zionists have been defacing their own synagogues or whatnot and blaming it on Palestine supporters. Even now they act as if they're unsafe from Palestine supporters, even though more right wingers have been violent towards them. Meanwhile, Palestinian-supporting Jews have been in actual danger from IOF and cops in other countries, and even from Israel.

Biden and Harris keep screwing up their chances by continuing to lie about Hamas and Palestinians while glossing over the fact that Israel is actually the one committing all the horrific acts it keeps accusing Hamas of. Tons of countries see Israel as a war criminal committing genocide, but countries like US and UK keep protecting Israel. It's disgusting.

And to make things worse, Trump is every bit piece of shit as Biden, if not slightly worse.
 

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Also, ninjabot was concerned that a veteran self-immolating meant that Palestinian supporters would get more violent towards others (wut??), but so far, a bigoted lady tried to drown two Palestinian kids when she saw the mom with a hijab on. And that's on top of a man stabbing a kid back in October or November, and Zionist Jews shooting Palestinian college students.
Well to be clear, what I said was:

me said:
I saw. And of course he's been confirmed to be a KiraChats, Hasan Piker, and DJ Muel viewer.

Remember months ago when I raged about Hasan radicalizing Lefties into thinking they're revolutionaries? When I said that, I thought it just meant these kids would be wasting votes on 3rd party candidates or wasting time screeching on twitter. I never considered they'd be this lost.

And I don't think this is as bad as it gets. I expect suicide bombings on Jewish property next.
And while we haven't gotten to suicide bombings yet we HAVE gotten to escalations of violence. There was the cop car that was firebombed at one of those colleges:


Protesting a memorial for innocent civilians murdered on Oct. 7th isn't violent, but it's disgusting enough to warrant attention:


As is preventing Jews from going to their places of worship:


Since Oct. 7th, anti-semitic attacks on Jews in the UK have doubled to over 4000, as of February.


Similarly in Germany:


And even moreso in America:

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And Bowman has lost. What has that taught us Lefties?

That appealing to the far left loses you elections, that's what. Establishment Dems were behind Latimer, and Bowman was trying to court the far Left with his anti-Israel conspiracy bullshit.

Hopefully this is a wakeup call to other politicians and they are gonna slowly inch away from anything Palestine-oriented. Looks like I'm not gonna have to wait until November for this shit to fade out.
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Holy shit if there was any video at all M3J needed to watch it's this one.
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Yes I saw the debate. Yes Biden lost. Yes it was really, really bad. No I won't be voting for Trump.

Obviously.
 

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Ok, I didn't care to watch the debate but saw a bit of it on jon stewart.. god damn, that's bad. REALLY bad. Resting 25th amendment face is spot on. Biden belongs in a home. Even if biden wins I'd put my money on him being unable to finish his term. Democrats just handed trump the presidency...
 

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I dunno yet. There's still a chance.

The vote for Biden has never been about how smart he is, but rather his uncanny ability to just not be Donald Trump. I can't imagine anyone that hates Donald Trump to want to vote for him just because Biden is an invalid.
 

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Trump is wining next election, I"m betting 2k
 

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Trumps gonna win, I think so too
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I’m tempted to make a bet too..looks like easy money
 

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I dunno yet. There's still a chance.

The vote for Biden has never been about how smart he is, but rather his uncanny ability to just not be Donald Trump. I can't imagine anyone that hates Donald Trump to want to vote for him just because Biden is an invalid.
I dislike trump as much as ever but damn, biden's a potato. Imagine biden with the nuclear codes 3 years from now. This whole mutually assured destruction thing only works if destruction is mutually assured, it doesn't work if a few years from now biden is a drooling potato that can't turn a key or whatever he has to do to fire a nuke. If democrat voters had any sense they'd be out on the street demanding biden steps down and for the clowns in the party who have been covering for him and brazenly lying about his non existent mental state to be kicked out. Biden should have been 25th months ago, it's beyond idiotic that things got to the point that he might in his current state get a new term.
 

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I feel like a lot of what Biden has done in office already has been under the advisement of people less brainbroken than he. Having a Democrat at the top means being surrounded by like-minded allies, meaning power remains in the Democratic party.

That said, there aren't any other libs to switch him out with so we're fucking stuck. Everyone else is farther left than he is. Kamala... Newsome... there's no one. NO ONE. All I know is I'm Blue No Matter Who. As I've ever been.

SAVE US MICHELLE OBAMA
 

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Being honest? That sounds about right. I do prefer Oprah though.
Lmao, I do not. She's especially bitchy to atheists.

At least the Obama's are milquetoast enough not to offend people based on their beliefs (or lack thereof). When they're not drone-striking civilians I mean.
 

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Better go for Hillary/Kamala combo
The evil laugh duo
 
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