He probably has to invent a new key - grievance. Or emotion or something like that. Well, in the end his key-theory got busted now.
To be clear, I was making a spiteful/borderline racist joke about not allowing people into the country that are conservative-leaning.
I got that.
Cool. It's not my true feelings by the way, it's just something that nagged in the back of my head every time I kept hearing about Latinos moving more and more toward Trump over the few years.
I don't disagree.
Mass deportations are not feasible. It would be a humanitarian and logistical nightmare and would tank the economy. It's like the wall bullshit - it's one thing to run on it and it's another to actually do it. He might try but it won't make a dent IMO.
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I think you'll be surprised at the tolerance latinos can have for racist/sexist jokes( as long as they are jokes).
Who in politics is doing that? Outside of people justifyingly blaming men for the stripping of reproductive rights?
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I was thinking this. I expect an uptick in deportations, but mass deportation is impossible, and I don't think Republicans are so patriotic they'll tank the economy in the name of ideology.
I knew they were working behind the scenes for years, I just didn't think they were that ingrained into our politics that they had this much control.
I mean culturally, not politically. The most vocal advocates for cultural movements aren't the actual politicians.
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Seriously? Have you been ignoring throughout the entire Andrew Tate fiasco all of the video essays and news articles about young white men moving over to the Right? You didn't hear ANY of that at all?
That seems like a catch 22 to me - if you think feminist critique is at all valid, then there is justification for critiquing the modern sense of what masculinity is. People like Andrew Tate are popular because they're lying about what these discussions are about. I don't think you combat these kinds of things by coddling, so to speak.
I don't really disagree with most of that. It's not about simply kicking people out and it's obviously not possible to deport everyone over any period of time. But if you wall off illegal immigrants from both jobs and public services while at the same setting up systems to streamline temporal and permanent immigration based on US labor needs you are basically taken away the incentive to simply walk (or fly) into the country and stay there illegally. While at the same time you are encouraging immigration that benefits the country. And significantly reducing the number of folk seeing asylum while at it.
No I haven't, I just object to the idea that men only have to hear nice things in order to change that. Tate isn't an honest person, and neither is any Red-Pill or MRA types.
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How do you "wall off" illegal immigrants from jobs? Small business owners (mostly his voters) are hiring them. Also I think denying public services to them when they pay taxes is inhumane, personally.
Agreed, hence my Positive Masculinity thread that was stillborn. The idea was to find out what people think a left-leaning masculine ideal would be so that we can package it to young men and keep our hold on the culture.
Coddling? See, that's part of the problem. I want to appeal to these kids. That's not the same as coddling.
Why does that matter if men feel like he's right? Don't even go to the Redpill extreme, just ask yourself about normal ass liberal white dudes. What does the Left offer them? They're the most privileged of all of us, obviously, but what do you think it does to a young man to be told things like "You can't be racist to white people" or "check your privilege" when they have a complaint or (and this one I care least about) seeing white main characters in media as being a slight against the media itself for being "backwards and regressive"?
Yeah I don't have an issue with that at all
Why does it have to be seen as transactional? Your views are based on how you interface with the world and I think there are still enough left-leaning white people who do so despite the acknowledgement of things like systemic racial injustice. How much they care about it might be another thing.
Just take measures to make sure illegal immigrants can't work. Most countries punish folk who enter countries illegally and work without the required paperwork. Fines, prison, deportation.... The US taking shit for doing what a majority of people in the planet expect their governments to do would be the most inane double standard I have heard of so far. That also solves the moral quandary of denying public services to taxpayers (which yeah, would be criminal). I don't doubt fixing this will be painful but what is going on in the US right now immigration wise is ridiculously far removed from sanity. No one wants what democrats are selling here, not even the people democrats were trying to cater to with it.
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Give it some more time until it sets in that one of the biggest issues of our time is that societies in the world have not come up with a way to reasonably deal with folk overseas writing mean twits in bad faith. And sometimes not even folks, just robots and more recently AI...
The reason amnesty is brought up by even Republicans is because of the sheer volume of the issue itself and how essential it is for our economy.