Mangahelper九千以上だ！ / Kyuusen Ijou Da! / It's Over 9000!
- Jul 6, 2009
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Considering the strength of the Espadas varies between them, in addition to what they were originally, that doesn't say anything.Based on what I have seen I would say that Lille is at a level well above the level of the Espada ....
Because the powers aren't the same? Again, the abilities are quite different. You're comparing apples and oranges here, and ignoring their actual abilities, or even the events surrounding things.The speech remains the same.
How can one who is defeated by a weaker version of a power be a real threat when those who use power have another trick up their sleeve?
It would be like if Freeza had let the Kaioken defeat him ...
How does Aizen remarking that their power was less then his show weakness, when he considered the same for the combined forces of the Captains and Vizards? Especially when Soul Society thought they were in serious trouble before the Vizards showed up to save them?But if the manga itself says it through Aizen XD
Kaido is a long range attacker with crazy speed to knock someone out instantly, Law would be at a huge disadvantage against him. As for Big Mom, why not? What exactly do you see in that scenario that counters my comment?Sure, then for the same speech, Law could beat Big Mom and Kaido with one hand .....
You have yet to show any kind of inconsistency...What Black Clover or any other shonen abounds, no denying it ...
There's an obvious difference between commenting on something and complaining about how something has ended before we even see the ending.Ah well if we think so we should no longer comment on anything.
The consequences were Asta took all the blame for the events with the elves, why would there be any change in his thinking when it was already established that he doesn't care about what people think of himself? And we were literally shown several characters, including one that had been his enemy, acknowledge how unfair the system was and how he shouldn't have had to take the blame, pretty much laying the seeds for their support in a future conflict.Aaaaaaannnnnndddddd.....
Consequences on Asta? On his way of thinking? On your relationship with others?
So you have a panel showing them on the scene during the events then?Um, the manga maybe?
The Capital wasn't razed. We were shown scenes around, and while there was major damage, the majority of building and such were still standing. Had the Capital been razed, then clearly no one could continue to live there and the past couple of chapters couldn't have happen...Nooooooooooo......
How is that an extermination? Even if those examples involved them actually being killed, you would need a whole lot more being killed to allow that claim.Nozelle almost dead, Ratry almost kill the king.....
Yeah, and I pointed out that Damnatio doesn't have power because he's a royal, he has power because he leads the Magic Congress. Meanwhile the King has also been shown powerless.It was an observation.
You said that the Vermilion and the Silva as royal had no power, and I replied that according to this reasoning not even the Kira should have it.
We're literally told how the system works. You can't disregard the manga in how it works.But I wouldn't say so.
Even if that was the case, that doesn't change the point. You can't support the death of all the Nobles and Royals, and ignore that not all the Nobles and Royals are evil. They weren't picking and choosing which ones to hate, they were hating all of them. Meaning allowing them to do that would still be an evil act, since several of the characters we follow are Nobles and Royals, thereby making us side with them.Yes but how many?
I would say very few.
Most of them have almost been described in a negative way.
You said she mastered it with battle experience, whereas we're shown it being done with training.Annnnnnddddd ....
What did I say?
Ee and Tsunade were literally shown sitting around, doing nothing. They weren't even the ones coming up with the tactics being used. And we outright saw when Naruto escaped, that there was nothing requiring them to be there. Also, Mei was hardly needed when they had a whole team to protect the Daimyo, proven by how she could just leave them later on.The Raikage led the alliance, Gaara was in charge of a division, Mei protected the Damyo, Oonoki supported Gaara.
Yeah, they didn't do anything .....
You continue to claim that the author refused to handle the "original" issue, yet I have asked several times exactly what you thought the solution would be, without you answering that. The message and point is quite clear, being the same for most shounens, that revenge is bad and only leads to more despair. If you think that it should have been handled differently, then you should actually explain that, instead of just claiming that it should have been.Wait, what?
And clearly he has more then just that, meaning as said, we don't know his limits either. Afterall, he didn't show any fear towards Yami rushing at him, so clearly he wasn't that worried. And why would Fuegoleon have to block him if he was defenseless in that situation.For now, Damnatio has only shown one spell, a little to counteract such monsters.
But the limits that we're given do make it balance. It's quite far from being powerful, only usable in a defensive way.The point of the speech is that I find it hilarious to present a terribly powerful magic as "balanced" ...
A bit like Tabata saying: "Yes, this magic can also make you a great coffee but did you see what a restriction I used?"
Anyway, if you like it that way, we can do.
What part of it being dangerous to his allies too, and not being a sure means of winning don't you get? You keep acting as using the strongest attack will mean a win, when we were literally shown that wasn't true - Again, both Barragan and Harribel easily tanked their opponent's bankais. Your whole claim is proven untrue by the manga itself.Still not explaining, in short, if you face one of the greatest threats of all time without using your powers to the full, well you're an idiot.
A bit like if Goku had faced Majin Bu using only the SSJ.
You asked why we were talking about the Silva family, saying I brought them up when it was you who did that...Um yes, look at the pages I posted ....
What proof do you have those others were Nobles?But......
There are at least seven dead .....
He's an anti-hero, as said. And killing people, even criminals, is not a good thing.But Atemu was not a villain,
He only punished the criminals, and in any case as he said his ruthless executioner period did not last long.
No, he was the main villain. We learnt everything about him, the entire arc revolved around his actions, and his actions were the ones that had an effect upon the plot.Not really, he was just a pawn from the main villain
No they weren't. Black Zetsu literally stated he was not only her child, but everything he did was his own plan. Kaguya had no plan, that's how she ended up sealed in the first place.They were the same as Kaguya's, they were one entity
Again, to get a physical body. There was nothing more then that because there was no need for there to be anything more then that.In history, I mean. It is obvious that outside it serves to introduce the demonic race to the readers, but in the context of the manga that has plan or motivation does it have?
Salamander literally left one person to awaken another, that was clearly not serving Fana. And Slyph did take the "initiative" upon her first appearance.What you mean, or to show feelings that go beyond not serving their masters.
To hear you it seems that the spirit of water was the one who spoke of wanting the demon, which is strange given that, as I said so far, no spirit has ever shown similar feelings to thoughts.
That is, it would be like Bell had taken the initiative when Yuno was in a trance
There's nothing showing that the Queen doesn't want the devil either, since as far as we've seen, it's wanted to help the country. And we have seen them wanting things. What exactly do you consider different with Slyph's wanting Yuno's love?