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Re: Claymore Hang-out Thread
my theory:
Fact: Rafaela LOVED her BELOVED older sister Luciela. Rafaela cared as much for Luciela as Clare cared for Teresa. As Alicia cared for Beth. As Beth cared for Alicia. As Tabatha cares for Miria. Etc etc etc. Luciela was EVERYTHING to Rafaela, just as Teresa was EVERYTHING to Clare.
Rafaela thus would do anything to get her sister back! (Luciela was "lost" due to Rafaela being unable to protect Luciela from becoming an AO during their Soul Link attempt, Rafaela was dead-set to get Luciela back from her failure to protect Luciela).
In fact, Rafaela does so:
1. Rafaela keeps her Yoki Suppressed (and in one translation it said Rafaela had Luciela's Yoki inside of her, as well as her own - which I theorize Rafaela would try to use Luciela's Yoki to De-Awaken AO Luciela back into her Claymore self, but sadly I have been completely unable to find this translated account, sighs), in hopes to use it to De-Awaken Luciela somehow...
2. Rafaela kills her own fellow Claymores, earning her the gossiped non-official title of The Assassin of the Organization, whispered amongst the Claymores. Who knows how many Claymores Rafaela has killed for Rubel... Presumably Rafaela kills at least Irene.
3. Rafaela does whatever Rubel wants, she's his "right hand man... err..woman". She was Rubel's body guard and enforcer for Rubel when he met up with Clare+Jean wanting them to go to Pieta for him. Also, according to Galatea, Rafaela+Renee were secretly spying on the Pieta battle, and were to ensure that the 24 Claymores were killed, which they would personally do, if Isley's Pieta ABs failed to kill off all 24 of the Claymores, such as if the Claymores tried to run away. Lastly, Galatea asks who was Luciela's younger sister, but Rubel would NOT tell Galatea that the 2 ranks below her, rank 5 Rafaela, was that younger sister of Luciela's, as he was personally using the uber powerful, having at least the power level of rank 1 Luciela, Rafaela....
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so why is Rafaela, one of the most powerful Claymores of all time, being Rubel's "lapdog" ???
BLACKMAIL
Rubel says: "he has information *ABOUT* Luciela"
he doesn't say, he has information of Luciela's location... which you pointed out already: Rafaela is an excellent Eye (Yoki Sensor), she could have easily found AO Luciela at any time.
ABOUT is a very interesting word... like maybe Information ABOUT HOW TO De-AWAKEN AO LUCIELA, EH ???
Rubel teases Rafaela about this, now he does comment about Rafaela wanting to kill Luciela... but in my examination of it, I believe Rubel knew that Rafaela had no interest in actually killing Luciela, Rafaela wanted to rectify her failure to protect Luciela, Rafaela wanted to return AO Luciela into Claymore Luciela, Rafaela wanted to "SAVE" Luciela. He might jsut have said that to throw off any possible BCs easedropping on him...
without getting too much into my larger theory, Rubel seemed to have planned these entire events with the PURPOSE of creating the Destroyer.
Rafaela thought Rubel was telling her how to "Save"/De-Awaken Luciela (Riful explains what happened after Rafaela hug-crushed Luciela to death, which would result not in Luciela being revived as a Claymore at the cost of Rafaela's life in Rubel's lie that he was teaching/telling her how to do a "Sacrifical Life Transfer Purification Ressurection Technique"), when (theorizingly) he was actually telling her, unknown to her, how to create an UBER Awakened... except... Rafaela fails to do so, fails to fully merge her body with Luciela's corpse only half-merging their bodies instead, creating the "incompleted half" Uber Awakened, the Destroyer... if the Destroyer is the result of the incompleted process... imagine if Rafaela was successful, fully merging with Luciela's corpse... something far more powerful than even the Destroyer would have been created...
it's scary when the Destroyer is "merely" the result of a failed and incompleted process...
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anyways, back to the topic...
Rubel had information *ABOUT* (theorizingly) how to De-Awaken Luciela (or so Rafaela stupidly believed), so Rafaela had no choice to do whatever Rubel wanted of her, it was Blackmail that she would not refuse, as her beloved older sister Luciela was the most and only important thing to Rafaela. She would kinslay-genocide her own Claymores into extinction if it meant she could return Luciela to normal, back into a Claymore, and that's partially what she did, as The Assassin of the Organization, she was at least a rank 1 in power, if not beyond a rank 1, and so she could eliminate any problematic powerful Claymore that the Lido "Spiderman male AB couldn't or that suicide missions could not kill off either.
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P.S.
this is only bits and pieces of my theory, if you want my theory in full detail let me know... though it'll take quite a while to construct... sighs...
my theory:
Fact: Rafaela LOVED her BELOVED older sister Luciela. Rafaela cared as much for Luciela as Clare cared for Teresa. As Alicia cared for Beth. As Beth cared for Alicia. As Tabatha cares for Miria. Etc etc etc. Luciela was EVERYTHING to Rafaela, just as Teresa was EVERYTHING to Clare.
Rafaela thus would do anything to get her sister back! (Luciela was "lost" due to Rafaela being unable to protect Luciela from becoming an AO during their Soul Link attempt, Rafaela was dead-set to get Luciela back from her failure to protect Luciela).
In fact, Rafaela does so:
1. Rafaela keeps her Yoki Suppressed (and in one translation it said Rafaela had Luciela's Yoki inside of her, as well as her own - which I theorize Rafaela would try to use Luciela's Yoki to De-Awaken AO Luciela back into her Claymore self, but sadly I have been completely unable to find this translated account, sighs), in hopes to use it to De-Awaken Luciela somehow...
2. Rafaela kills her own fellow Claymores, earning her the gossiped non-official title of The Assassin of the Organization, whispered amongst the Claymores. Who knows how many Claymores Rafaela has killed for Rubel... Presumably Rafaela kills at least Irene.
3. Rafaela does whatever Rubel wants, she's his "right hand man... err..woman". She was Rubel's body guard and enforcer for Rubel when he met up with Clare+Jean wanting them to go to Pieta for him. Also, according to Galatea, Rafaela+Renee were secretly spying on the Pieta battle, and were to ensure that the 24 Claymores were killed, which they would personally do, if Isley's Pieta ABs failed to kill off all 24 of the Claymores, such as if the Claymores tried to run away. Lastly, Galatea asks who was Luciela's younger sister, but Rubel would NOT tell Galatea that the 2 ranks below her, rank 5 Rafaela, was that younger sister of Luciela's, as he was personally using the uber powerful, having at least the power level of rank 1 Luciela, Rafaela....

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so why is Rafaela, one of the most powerful Claymores of all time, being Rubel's "lapdog" ???
BLACKMAIL
Rubel says: "he has information *ABOUT* Luciela"
he doesn't say, he has information of Luciela's location... which you pointed out already: Rafaela is an excellent Eye (Yoki Sensor), she could have easily found AO Luciela at any time.
ABOUT is a very interesting word... like maybe Information ABOUT HOW TO De-AWAKEN AO LUCIELA, EH ???
Rubel teases Rafaela about this, now he does comment about Rafaela wanting to kill Luciela... but in my examination of it, I believe Rubel knew that Rafaela had no interest in actually killing Luciela, Rafaela wanted to rectify her failure to protect Luciela, Rafaela wanted to return AO Luciela into Claymore Luciela, Rafaela wanted to "SAVE" Luciela. He might jsut have said that to throw off any possible BCs easedropping on him...
without getting too much into my larger theory, Rubel seemed to have planned these entire events with the PURPOSE of creating the Destroyer.
Rafaela thought Rubel was telling her how to "Save"/De-Awaken Luciela (Riful explains what happened after Rafaela hug-crushed Luciela to death, which would result not in Luciela being revived as a Claymore at the cost of Rafaela's life in Rubel's lie that he was teaching/telling her how to do a "Sacrifical Life Transfer Purification Ressurection Technique"), when (theorizingly) he was actually telling her, unknown to her, how to create an UBER Awakened... except... Rafaela fails to do so, fails to fully merge her body with Luciela's corpse only half-merging their bodies instead, creating the "incompleted half" Uber Awakened, the Destroyer... if the Destroyer is the result of the incompleted process... imagine if Rafaela was successful, fully merging with Luciela's corpse... something far more powerful than even the Destroyer would have been created...
it's scary when the Destroyer is "merely" the result of a failed and incompleted process...
-----
anyways, back to the topic...
Rubel had information *ABOUT* (theorizingly) how to De-Awaken Luciela (or so Rafaela stupidly believed), so Rafaela had no choice to do whatever Rubel wanted of her, it was Blackmail that she would not refuse, as her beloved older sister Luciela was the most and only important thing to Rafaela. She would kinslay-genocide her own Claymores into extinction if it meant she could return Luciela to normal, back into a Claymore, and that's partially what she did, as The Assassin of the Organization, she was at least a rank 1 in power, if not beyond a rank 1, and so she could eliminate any problematic powerful Claymore that the Lido "Spiderman male AB couldn't or that suicide missions could not kill off either.
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P.S.
this is only bits and pieces of my theory, if you want my theory in full detail let me know... though it'll take quite a while to construct... sighs...
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...but i nominate goral or the newcomer sheik(just joshin
).they both know their shit...i hear and see everything they post on certain topics.both would be great....