Shounen Claymore by Norihiro Yagi

[Salain]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

There is one reason that makes me think that Alicia and Beth are unlikely to have been used on the main continent yet. The travel time. The mainland must be a fairly great distance away if no one has found it yet. So if the organization was attacked while they were away by any one of the abyssal ones, it would probably mean certain destruction for the organization. So, for the purpose of maintaining control of their experiment, I suspect the organization has kept Alicia and Beth on the current continent the entire time.

You're almost certainly right about the distance. Another supporting fact is that the abyssal ones have collectively spent centuries in their own "territories", with nothing but eating guts to pass the time. You've got to figure they at least thought about an ocean adventure. And riful at least moves fast and looks like she can swim. Eisley not so much. Priscilla could just fly...

Could they possibly be on the island still because they're afraid if they go into the water they can't find their way back? Seems pretty cowardly...especially since the abyssal might be able to withstand space.

 

[Jammin]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

But in that case, why won't the Org abandon the island? that's the only thing I don't understand.. if they have their perfect product- Alicia and Beth, than they have no reason to protect the island anymore and they can just let the abbysal ones have it.

It's not really known whether or not Alicia and Beth are the final product. They seem to be closer to the final goal, but Alicia and Beth's dependence on each other is still a weakness that i think the organization would probably be happy to get rid of. After all, if Beth should die while Alicia is in an awakened state it would create another abyssal one that they wouldn't be able to control.

 

[bax]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Ahh.. Alicia and Beth are probably by far the result the organization wanted. The abyssal ones, so to speak, are failures (in terms of getting them under control and doing the organization's biddings). But if we look at the "chain of evolution", it could look like this:

The blue line depicts the original plan, or rather what the organization hoped for at first, before they discovered they only met failures, especially with the Abyssal ones. While the yellow one is what the organization did after founding only failures. (Personal depiction, take it as right or wrong ). Lets not forget that the Abyssal Ones are awakened beings as well, just they were given the title Abyssal because of their powers and former rank.

Although it could be the above, or it could just be the other way around. With Claymores were made to be experimented on in the first place, and to test if they are capable and have enough powers, they are sent to kill the failures that come before them (failed experiment subjects).

And yes, Alicia and Beth are a success, since Alicia herself (after changing), is said at least as strong as the Abyssals, just Beth is her major weakness. (Why I got the feeling that Beth will lose control of Alicia in the future It's rather easy to feel that way).
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[TheGenius]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

It looks like I stirred up some controversy!

I have a feeling that the Organisation will be overthrowned by;
-The Abyssal
-The Ghost Claymores
in a united effort.

Especially when they'll confront their masters once again because they are attracting a lot of attention at the moment.

 

[baboysai]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

bax did you make that chart yourself? 0.0

 

[Goral]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Magnificent zato_1one noticed that in 14th volume there's a page (87) which wasn't in Edited Mangas of 76th chapter (it should be 17th page there, instead it's missing).



Now if someone could kindly translate what's written in these 3 bubbles.

 

[Galth]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Thanks to zato_1one and Goral.

I wonder if that page was an added extra in the tank or just a page we missed on the magazine raw and didn't notice...

Ah well, either way, thanks to danchou-sama for a quick translation:

[22:47] <Xophien> "We did it!" "Huh?" "she/it (pick one) was killed..."

And Bax gave it a quick typeset for those who care:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/699/17nr7.png

 

[Amphibious]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

That translation is not quite correct.

やられちゃったimplies a negative outcome, meaning it is Agatha who is saying it (yes, she's just faking it).

So a more accurate translation is:
Guard:
"We did it!"

Agatha:
"Huh...?"
"They got me..."

 

[Goral]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Thanks Amphibious for correction. This makes more sense than "she was killed".

Also thank You Xophien and Khaludh for quick response.

 

[Katea]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

I wonder if Alicia would protect Beth in battle, like if, for example, the seven claymores around miria confront the two and attempt to defeat Beth at first.

 

[bax]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Another quick typeset with the 2nd trans:



I want to credit the Manga Editor who cleaned this chapter, but the chapter I downloaded has no credits. So credits to whoever you are Hope you don't mind for this.

I wonder if Alicia would protect Beth in battle, like if, for example, the seven claymores around miria confront the two and attempt to defeat Beth at first.

Yeah, I was wondering about it too. But I guess so far especially during the North's invasion, it works. Either that the Awakened had no chance to get to Beth or Alicia really protected Beth.

 

[Salain]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

I wonder if Alicia would protect Beth in battle, like if, for example, the seven claymores around miria confront the two and attempt to defeat Beth at first.

Almost certainly. Alicia is able to stay herself because Beth protects her, Since Alicia is still as sane as Beth, she would reciprocate. Implied proof of that is seen when Alicia willingly relinquishes her awakening.

 

[PB|Ichigo]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Here's Cover 14 HQ, hope you like it, although I gotta say, I would've preferred, that instead of Clarice & Miata, Galatea would've been on the cover, I really don't like that useless Clarice!

 

[rukori]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

here's the rest of the volume cover!
http://rapidshare.com/files/117878565/14cover.rar.html
I kinda liked this one..

EDIT: now I've found the entire raw of vol 14 HQ(if any Manga Editor is interested)
found on tsstorry.com: http://www.sendspace.com/file/6h6104

 

[Katea]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

ehem will there be claymore this month?

 

[PB|Ichigo]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Yeah, there'll be a chapter this month, wasn't stated otherwise, the official Squarerelease is on the 3rd or 4th each month, so expect spoilers/raw the next days.

 

[rukori]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

taken from tsstorry.com
I don't know if it's real/fake though.

Spoiler

QUOTE:

43 ：作者の都合により名無しです：2008/05/22(木) 01:26:11 ID:jM+fkThD0
次回バレ

ラボナ大聖堂の秘密の地下室で会議中のミリアーズ
ヘレン「しっかしよ～たまげたぜ…いきなりあんな話をされちゃあ」
ミリア「そうだな、いきなりこんな話を聞いて動揺しているだろう
　　　…すまない」頭を下げる
ヘレン「あ？え？いや、そんな責めるつもりじゃないんだってば」焦って弁解する
ミリア「だが私自身今まで確たる証拠を掴めていなかったんでな、敢えて話さずにいた」
ガラテア「しかし、今こうして全てを話したということはなにか証拠を手に入れた、ということかな？」
ミリア頷きながら「ああ、正確には、証拠を手に入れることができるようになった、と言うべきか」
ヘレン「なんだよ、もったいぶらずに教えておくれよ」
シド「そうだぜ、焦らしたってしょうがないだろ？」
クレア「シド！…ガークまで」
シド「よっ！」ガーク「久しいな」
クレア「これは私たちの問題だ聞いたら戻れなくなるぞ？」
ガーク「いや、俺たちも当事者なんでな」
クレア「？どういうことだ？」
ミリア「…」
ガラテア「成程な、おの聖都でシスターとして過ごしていた時から違和感は感じていたが…やはり」
ミリア「そうだ、組織の歴史と秘密…その証拠がこの聖都にある
　　　更に言えば…この聖都の存在自体が組織の秘密を暴く重要なカギなんだ」

場面変わって大聖堂の塔の一室
クラリス「はあ…私たちこれからどうなるんだろう…
　　　　会議には参加させてもらえなかったし」
ミアータ「ママ…おっぱい…」
クアッリス「はあ…考えててもしょうがないか、会議が終わるのを待って…」
ラド「首尾はどうだ？」
クラリス＆ミアータ「！？」
クラリス（ミアータが接近に気付けなかったなんて…やっぱりこの人たちは？）
ラド「どうした？お前たちの任務はガラテア討伐のはず…奴の首はどこにある？」
クラリス「あ…あなたたちは…」
ラド「…」
クラリス「あなたたちは一体何なの！？私たちをこんな体にして！命がけの戦いをさせて！
　　　　こんな小さな子供にまで！…今までは私たちが妖魔を倒さなきゃ一般人が苦しむ…
　　　　そう教えられてたから頑張っていた！耐えてきた…でもそれが全部ウソだったなんて…」言葉を吐き散らした後泣きだす
ラド「誰に吹きこまれたか知らんが…余計なことを…」
ミアータがラドに斬りかかるが、机を破壊しただけでラドはその場にもういなかった

また場面が変わってミリアーズ
ガラテア「つまり、この大聖堂に隠されている組織の秘密…それを暴露されることを恐れ
　　　組織は聖都に手を出せなかった…」
クレア「しかし、その秘密を暴露してしまえば聖都もまた滅ぼされてしまう…」
ミリア「ああ、だからまず組織を潰し、その後妖魔を討伐しつつ、人々に真実を伝えてゆく、というわけだ」
ヘレン「うひょー！なんだかワクワクしてきたぜ！あたしらがあの組織を潰して世界を変えるだなんてよ！」
デネヴ「浮かれるな…この道…そう容易くはいかんはずだ」
ミリアーズ全員が覚悟を決める
ガラテア「！！」
クレア「どうした？」
ガラテア「来る…おびただしい数の妖気が…」
場面変わってクラリス＆ミアータ
ミアータが塔の窓から外を眺めている
遥か彼方から鎧兜で武装した大量の妖魔が進軍してきて終わり

アオリ：大地を埋め尽くす脅威！！
========================================
剧透2
========================================
QUOTE:

2ch SQ版~~~

クレイモア

惊くヘレン达
ミリア　「正确には半妖の戦士 つまり私达の様な戦士を作るための実験场だがな」
覚醒者はコントロールできずに失败したと予想するミリア

スタフ
黒服がリムト？と话している
「かつての№２ 鲜血のアガサと思われる妖気が消灭しました」
「ミアータがやったのか？」
「ルネは ミアータもガラテアも濒死だったと言っていました
　ですが他に存在は无く まるで幽霊にでもやられたかの様だと・・・」

ルヴル登场
「幻影のミリア达が生きていたと考えるのが妥当でしょうな」
干部 「生きていたとしてもアリシアの敌ではあるまい」
ルヴル ｢甘く见すぎると足をすくわれる事になるのでは？」
リムト？　「どの道 我々の积年の悲愿である 本国の夺回の障害になるならば
　　　　　　 粛清するしかあるまい」
ルヴル　「奴らが复讐を企てているのなら ほっておいても向こうからやってくるだろう
　　　　　　后は あの双子に任せればいい」
最后にクレアも生きているのかと、ふと考えるルヴル

クレアサイド
ミリア　「私达と一绪に来るか？」
クラリス　「组织を溃すなんて・・・」
ラテア　「せいぜい 足手まといにならないように顽张るとするか」
また来てくれとラテアに言い残す神父
クラリス・ミアータは同行せず
次号
好人Gene的剧透2翻译
QUOTE:

惊讶的helen等人
miria：
[正确来说是半妖的战士，换言之士为了制造我们这样的战士而存在的实验场]
觉醒者是失控之后的产物
miria这样预想

Staff
黑色衣服的是列摩托麽？〈--〉这句是写帖子的人自言自语〉
[昔日的鲜血Agatha的妖気消失了]
[miata做的麽？]
[ルネ报告说 miata也好，galatea也好都是濒死状态了，除此以外似乎什麽都没有了，就好像幽灵做的一样]

lulu登场
[还是考虑一下幻影miria他们的生还的可能性比较好吧]
干部：
[如果（他们）还活着的话那就是Alicia的敌人了]
lulu <这句不懂，我找人问问去>
列摩托
[不管哪条路 我们依然有着积年累月的悲愿 如果成为夺回本国的障害的话 只能肃清了]
lulu
[那些家伙想要复仇的话，<继续不太懂> 后面的就交给那对双胞胎解决就是了]
lulu认为clare也应该活到最后〈大概这种意思。。我语序校正不过来〉


clare 他们那边
miria
[要和我们一起瓦啦~~]（米粒内是在拐卖小loli麽？）
clarissa
[击溃组织这种事情。。。。]
galatea
[充其量 为不成为累赘而努力吧]--〉（galatea答应加入了麽？）
神父（不是祭司麽？）对galatea说要再来啊~~~
clarissa·miata并未同行
后面下一期

 

[Katea]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

I think we need a translation here

 

[PB|Ichigo]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

Talked with spacecat, he gave a look and confirmed pretty fast, that this spoiler is fake. So don't bother with a translation.

 

[Kioras]

Re: Claymore by Yagi Norihiro

the dates on it looked too old for it to be true anyways, since it was dated 1 week before even being posted here