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One thing i like about Edens Zero being a brand new series is that now the people that only read Fairy Tail to complain about it and hate on the series every single week cant use that "im only reading to see how it ends" excuse anymore.
The haters used that excuse every single time you asked them why they continued to follow Fairy Tail if they disliked it so much ever since the Grand Magic Games arc and i saw many people that only hade negative things to say about every single freaking chapter and the series in general every week.

Edens Zero just started so now if many people dont like it and think everything about it sucks so much they have no reason not to simply stop following the series and leave the people that follow it because they actually like and enjoy it alone.
Following a series that you dont even like and appearantly just annoys you does not make any sense at all to me.
 
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leave the people that follow it because they actually like and enjoy it alone
I thought that this was a place where people could share their opinion, either if it is bad or good.
But it seems that here only accepts praises to Mashima
 

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One thing i like about Edens Zero being a brand new series is that now the people that only read Fairy Tail to complain about it and hate on the series every single week cant use that "im only reading to see how it ends" excuse anymore.
The haters used that excuse every single time you asked them why they continued to follow Fairy Tail if they disliked it so much ever since the Grand Magic Games arc and i saw many people that only hade negative things to say about every single freaking chapter and the series in general every week.

Edens Zero just started so now if many people dont like it and think everything about it sucks so much they have no reason not to simply stop following the series and leave the people that follow it because they actually like and enjoy it alone.
Following a series that you dont even like and appearantly just annoys you does not make any sense at all to me.
This chapter belongs in the scrap yard! :D

Haters only know negativity ;)
 

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I thought that this was a place where people could share their opinion, either if it is bad or good.
But it seems that here only accepts praises to Mashima
Theres a difference between being critical sometimes about things you think could be improved or could have been done better and pretty much only having complaining and hatred to say all the time.
If negativity is the only thing you have to say about a series and everything about it you obviously dont even like it and there is no reason at all to continue following a series you dont even like.
Well with many people that only got negative things to say all the time i guess the real reason why they keep coming back every week is because they think its fun to annoy the fans and try to ruin all the fun, hype and excitment for them.
 
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try to ruin all the fun, hype and excitment for them
If your hype, fun or excitement are so easily corrupted by the negative opinion of other people then maybe those things weren't that good in the first place. If you don´t want to hear bad things about you favorite show because that take away all the emotion or excitement then don´t enter in a forum.

If negativity is the only thing you have to say about a series and everything about it you obviously dont even like it and there is no reason at all to continue following a series you dont even like
Or maybe those people know that the author is capable of doing something far better or maybe they really liked the show at some point but its quality suddenly dropped and some of that people that already invested so much time with those characters felt really angry because all the time they spend with that show was wasted because the author didn´t cared about its quality.

With Mashima's others series, people never had just "bad things to say about them", the bad things only started when the quality dropped, and saying that a show became worst with time is not a negative opinion that people said just becasue they are "mean people that attack my favorite manga!", people attacked so much the last few arcs in the previous series not because they are "ooog they are haters", they attacked them because they are bad, is that simple, if something is bad then why shouldn´t be said it?
 

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just give me a good story and characters.

the designs are lazy though.

only that massive Goddess is really interesting design.

others are mixture of FT.

the setting is cool and if Hiro doesn't mess things up like he did with Fairy Tail's last 2 arcs then it will be pretty good.

luckily, he doesn't have problems in the beginning.
 

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If your hype, fun or excitement are so easily corrupted by the negative opinion of other people then maybe those things weren't that good in the first place. If you don´t want to hear bad things about you favorite show because that take away all the emotion or excitement then don´t enter in a forum.



Or maybe those people know that the author is capable of doing something far better or maybe they really liked the show at some point but its quality suddenly dropped and some of that people that already invested so much time with those characters felt really angry because all the time they spend with that show was wasted because the author didn´t cared about its quality.

With Mashima's others series, people never had just "bad things to say about them", the bad things only started when the quality dropped, and saying that a show became worst with time is not a negative opinion that people said just becasue they are "mean people that attack my favorite manga!", people attacked so much the last few arcs in the previous series not because they are "ooog they are haters", they attacked them because they are bad, is that simple, if something is bad then why shouldn´t be said it?
Its not that people can't take criticism of their favorite series. Most people criticize aspects of a creator yet still enjoy their work. If you only have bad things to say about a series why are you even reading it? Its quite obvious that its not your cup of tea or you dont think the author is doing a good job. If an author is, in your opinion, doing a bad job and you believe they can do better, yes you stay and criticize. However if what you consider a bad job keeps happening most people will drop said work instead of just torturing themselves by reading it. If you stay, knowing what to expect, then at that point constructive criticism just becomes hate because you end up only seeing the things you dont like about the series. The reason people are frustrated is because most people who complained about Fairy Tail always complained about the same things till the end. The PoF, the plot, the fanservice. And yet throughout all of Fairy Tail those things have never changed. They are always there and the author didn't seem like he would get rid of them. Its strange to assume that he would now. Therefore knowing that, if I disliked those things I would have dropped this series the moment I realized that its something that will most likely always be prevalent in his works.
 

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Idfk why yall arguing over this
Ft was my fave manga and i like edens but let me say this. The people complaining are mostly bandwagon. Sure theyll talk shit about FT and EZ but you know damn sure behind the scenes its their guilty pleasure to indulge into the series. Take Black clover for example. People, especially youtuber reviewers tried to talk so much shit but now they cant because its actually pretty good. If you dont like you wouldnt read. You read because deep inside you like it but youre basically to stubborn and tsundere to admit that you like said story. Easy to see through peoples bs. And sorry for the profanity if profanity wasnt allowed.
 

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Its not that people can't take criticism of their favorite series. Most people criticize aspects of a creator yet still enjoy their work. If you only have bad things to say about a series why are you even reading it? Its quite obvious that its not your cup of tea or you dont think the author is doing a good job. If an author is, in your opinion, doing a bad job and you believe they can do better, yes you stay and criticize. However if what you consider a bad job keeps happening most people will drop said work instead of just torturing themselves by reading it. If you stay, knowing what to expect, then at that point constructive criticism just becomes hate because you end up only seeing the things you dont like about the series. The reason people are frustrated is because most people who complained about Fairy Tail always complained about the same things till the end. The PoF, the plot, the fanservice. And yet throughout all of Fairy Tail those things have never changed. They are always there and the author didn't seem like he would get rid of them. Its strange to assume that he would now. Therefore knowing that, if I disliked those things I would have dropped this series the moment I realized that its something that will most likely always be prevalent in his works.
Yea if people only focus on the negative things that they dont like about a series all the time and never talk about anything positive its obvious that they are not enjoying it and there is no real reason for them not to simply drop the series.
And yea when people hate and complain about Fairy Tail they always talk about the exact same stuff all the time like the friendship, fanservice and a few other things but that stuff kept happening in Fairy Tail over and over from beginning to end so if that stuff really annoyed them so much they should have stopped following the series many years ago.
Thats Hiro Mashimas style and how he likes to do things and i think the Japanese fans like the friendship stuff, the fanservice and most of the other things people here complain about so i think the big Mashima and Fairy Tail hate is mostly or only a western thing.
Its the Japanese fans that these manga authors mostly listen to and care about i think and if the Japanese complained about that stuff the same way people do here he probably would have stopped doing it.

It seems to me like Edens Zero is going to continue doing all that stuff people hated so much about Fairy Tail so the people that dont want to see that should understand that it would be a good idea to drop the series now that it just started.
If they keep reading the series only to complain about it for a long time i guess they will start using that "im only reading it to see how it ends" excuse again.
I personally love the focus on how important friends and family is in Fairy Tail, Edens Zero and other mangas and anime and i love sexual fanservice so those are great and positive things to me that makes me enjoy these series and other mangas and animes way more.
I strongly suspect that most people here in the west actually like and enjoy those things just like Japan does but must pretend that they are against it because thats the opinions you are expected to have here nowadays to be normal and morale and to be politically correct.

Idfk why yall arguing over this
Ft was my fave manga and i like edens but let me say this. The people complaining are mostly bandwagon. Sure theyll talk shit about FT and EZ but you know damn sure behind the scenes its their guilty pleasure to indulge into the series. Take Black clover for example. People, especially youtuber reviewers tried to talk so much shit but now they cant because its actually pretty good. If you dont like you wouldnt read. You read because deep inside you like it but youre basically to stubborn and tsundere to admit that you like said story. Easy to see through peoples bs. And sorry for the profanity if profanity wasnt allowed.

I suspect that many people that hate on Fairy Tail are only really doing it because its a popular thing to do and people want to be part of the crowd.
Its probably a peer pressure or mob mentality thing.
People hear so much hate on Fairy Tail on the internet that they feel that they must do the same and they see other people complain about power of friendship, fanservice and other things so often that they just automatically start saying the same stuff.
I saw plenty of people complain about power of friendship and fanservice when nothing like that was even happening in the chapter.
Or maybe there was just a tiny bit if fanservice in the chapter in only like one panel or maybe the characters just said the word friend once and power of friendship and fanservice was the only things many people talked about.

Fairy Tail was always one of the mangas that got the most attention, views and comments.
In the old days atlest if you really did not like something you avoided it.
I suspect that many of the people that complained and hated on the series actually liked and enjoyed it but did not wanna admit it.
I saw the same people that loved to complain about the series come back every single week for many years so if they really hated the series they probably would have stopped following it and stopped caring about it a long time ago.
Like why care about seeing whats going to happen next in a series if you hate everything about the story, the characters and everything else in general.
 
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Yes, on MaruMaru
Not yet.

I really Want to see the Chapter

Yea if people only focus on the negative things that they dont like about a series all the time and never talk about anything positive its obvious that they are not enjoying it and there is no real reason for them not to simply drop the series.
And yea when people hate and complain about Fairy Tail they always talk about the exact same stuff all the time like the friendship, fanservice and a few other things but that stuff kept happening in Fairy Tail over and over from beginning to end so if that stuff really annoyed them so much they should have stopped following the series many years ago.
Thats Hiro Mashimas style and how he likes to do things and i think the Japanese fans like the friendship stuff, the fanservice and most of the other things people here complain about so i think the big Mashima and Fairy Tail hate is mostly or only a western thing.
Its the Japanese fans that these manga authors mostly listen to and care about i think and if the Japanese complained about that stuff the same way people do here he probably would have stopped doing it.

It seems to me like Edens Zero is going to continue doing all that stuff people hated so much about Fairy Tail so the people that dont want to see that should understand that it would be a good idea to drop the series now that it just started.
If they keep reading the series only to complain about it for a long time i guess they will start using that "im only reading it to see how it ends" excuse again.
I personally love the focus on how important friends and family is in Fairy Tail, Edens Zero and other mangas and anime and i love sexual fanservice so those are great and positive things to me that makes me enjoy these series and other mangas and animes way more.




I suspect that many people that hate on Fairy Tail are only really doing it because its a popular thing to do and people want to be part of the crowd.
Its probably a peer pressure or mob mentality thing.
People hear so much hate on Fairy Tail on the internet that they feel that they must do the same and they see other people complain about power of friendship, fanservice and other things so often that they just automatically start saying the same stuff.
I saw plenty of people complain about power of friendship and fanservice when nothing like that was even happening in the chapter.
Or maybe there was just a tiny bit if fanservice in the chapter in only like one panel or maybe the characters just said the word friend once and power of friendship and fanservice was the only things many people talked about.

Fairy Tail was always one of the mangas that got the most attention, views and comments.
In the old days atlest if you really did not like something you avoided it.
I suspect that many of the people that complained and hated on the series actually liked and enjoyed it but did not wanna admit it.
I saw the same people that loved to complain about the series come back every single week for many years so if they really hated the series they probably would have stopped following it and stopped caring about it a long time ago.
Like why care about seeing whats going to happen next in a series if you hate everything about the story, the characters and everything else in general.
Many times it is because of the famous "I did it because I wanted to be popular" which is very currently applied, since it is very easy to obtain Likes thanks to Hate.

For me it is just something a little foolish, since nobody is going to see something that they do not like and makes text walls to put the one that disapproves, in the end, it is not as if most people would care , the important thing is what everyone thinks.

I like it as it goes and I like how FT is, not because my opinion will be less than that of others, but nowadays it is a tendency to go against the popular and believe that the concept of Critica is only to say bad things , attacking the right of freedom of expression of those who do want to say something good, by attacking them and wanting to lower their opinion just for being positive.

Likewise, if this series obtains good numbers and the influence of Mashima is still strong, that will speak for itself, that what a few people say in Forums is not the reality of the world.
 

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I really Want to see the Chapter
He asked 'the chapter will come out today' not 'already came out' :hurr
The chapter can be released any time on MaruMaru :datass

Personally, im excited to see Rebecca's sadistic face :datass

Curiosity: Even after a week, Edens Zero is the second most read manga on MaruMaru, only losing to One Piece.
I love a popular series :datass
 
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He asked 'the chapter will come out today' not 'already came out' :hurr
The chapter can be released any time on MaruMaru :datass

Personally, im excited to see Rebecca's sadistic face :datass

Curiosity: Even after a week, Edens Zero is the second most read manga on MaruMaru, only losing to One Piece.
I love a popular series :datass
I hope he leaves soon, I want to see the episode.

I think that Shiki will be of the type "Timid Boy" but not so crazy.
 

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I hope he leaves soon, I want to see the episode.

I think that Shiki will be of the type "Timid Boy" but not so crazy.
for me will be
Shikki->Lucy
Rebecca->Natsu
or
Shikki->Haru
Rebecca->Elie

Shiki will introduce us to the manga universe. Everything is new for him :spaz
Mashima said this about Lucy in the past :spaz
Shiki already is my fave :spaz
 

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for me will be
Shikki->Lucy
Rebecca->Natsu
or
Shikki->Haru
Rebecca->Elie

Shiki will introduce us to the manga universe. Everything is new for him :spaz
Mashima said this about Lucy in the past :spaz
Shiki already is my fave :spaz
I think Rebecca will be a mix of Elie and Natsu I mean Rebecca uses guns as weapons like Elie did but then again Elie was female Natsu minus the whole Natsu’s ravenous appetite and Natsu’s style of fighting. But this could also mean that Rebecca could end up being really powerful like Elie and have some kind of big plot twist about her later in the series.
 
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