Hangout Fairy Tail Hangout Thread

What do you like most about FT/what will you miss most about FT? (3 choices)

  • The individual characters

  • Moments when the guild is together

  • The storytelling and plot twists

  • Speculating about what could come up in the story/plot/characters

  • Shipping moments that have or you wish to take place

  • The feels

  • The fights/battles

  • The character designs/appearance

  • The villains

  • The comedy

  • The fanservice

  • The epic entrances, lines, and badass moments

  • Seeing side guilds (non-FT) get attention

  • The anime

  • Soundtracks/OP/ED in the anime

  • Mashima's art/twitter


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Alright wanted to way in here on this topic. Raven you can say your opinion in a way that does not put others down here. We all care about the series (or at least most of us do) and just because Saber this week did not like the chapter does not mean he did a bad job, simply that you liked the chapter and he did not. You cannot say you are more objective since that's also subjective. You have a right to dislike the review, i am just not a fan of how you do it but it is what it is. And before you tell me it's none of my business, i will say it very much is. As not only is this posted publically, but also i dislike the symbolism in which these reviews are critiqued so harshly. It could easily lead to people not wanting to support what i think is a solid idea for each week.

Once again like i have said before one's goal in writing a review should not be to make yourself flawlessly unbiased or something of the sort. Simply because there is no such thing, your opinion has to go into a review otherwise it really is no more than an overview then. The only time where being more objective is preferable is when you do basically speak for a site such as when video game reviews come out. Even then there is going to be bias though. There simply is no need to denounce yourself here from the review not being your position, as that is assumed. This is just a review system in which one review a week is highlighted, not the consensus of the entire thread.

Honestly expanding upon my comment on objectivity, there really is no such thing with this type of stuff. Like when i use it and others use it it's more meant to mean this is good or bad by consensus. The other way you could use it is as a word to mean you look at things with less bias than normal. For example i could say i find a series insanely enjoyable but that i don't necessarily think everyone would like it if i was recommending it to someone. Still everything has subjective elements to it since we are not robots is my point. :XD

Also the argument we should not rate chapters low since the mangaka worked hard is also shaky. First of all the reader and author aspect is mutually beneficial. What i mean by that is one does not go far without the other. We don't have a manga if Hiro decides not to write it, and he cannot write it if we don't buy and support it. I personally do buy and support it, but i also understand many who simply cannot. The reality is our opinion individually means nothing to Hiro at all anyways so why care about that? If someone dislikes something say it, we are talking about a manga here not Hiro himself.

I wish we could all try and support this system by accepting we all have different opinions, but not by putting others down as a result. I think we should all think about the fact that if it was our review up there and it was getting attacked such as this and rated, how would we feel about that? I hope this slows down as it is really disappointing to see such back and forth over someone's personal opinion on a manga chapter.
 

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It wasn't forced because we know how he get the seeds, If you want something forced look at Gray/Silver or Erza/Irene.
not a Gray/Erza fan in the least bit but this is sort of a joke lol. you're basically saying if your view on the seeds, which you thought they were greatly explained, doesn't coincide with MLG's view, which he finds it forced despite explaining why he found it as so he's 1000% wrong and should get shamed because of it? I get it, we both think Natsu is the best character in the manga and he can do no wrong no matter what but not. everyone. agrees. with. that. should I undermine their thoughts on Natsu because they don't agree with me? should I force my way of thinking on them? do you see where this is going? I'm not getting your purpose... besides Erza/Irene was explained very well while Gray/Silver could of been better in regards of Deliora but it still understandable. <- an opinion of mine I won't force you to agree with, you know?
 

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not a Gray/Erza fan in the least bit but this is sort of a joke lol. you're basically saying if your view on the seeds, which you thought they were greatly explained, doesn't coincide with MLG's view, which he finds it forced despite explaining why he found it as so he's 1000% wrong and should get shamed because of it? I get it, we both think Natsu is the best character in the manga and he can do no wrong no matter what but not. everyone. agrees. with. that. should I undermine their thoughts on Natsu because they don't agree with me? should I force my way of thinking on them? do you see where this is going? I'm not getting your purpose... besides Erza/Irene was explained very well while Gray/Silver could of been better in regards of Deliora but it still understandable. <- an opinion of mine I won't force you to agree with, you know?
Who told you that i think the seeds was greatly explained? i didn't say that. It wasn't that greatly explained because the whole END thing was forced in Tartarous but now in this arc we already knew that Natsu is END. The explanation of the seeds inside Natsu just make sense and fits well after what we learned in Tartarous about Natsu, There was a build up so saying the seeds is a forced device is just super wrong more like displaying hate indirectly.

I think i said before in Natsu dragneel thread that i don't like his actions sometimes so i don't think that Natsu can't do wrong. No lol

Imo Erza/Irene is very equivalent to Gray/Silver both came from the blue. The only difference is that Silver got his powers from no where not even from an Ice demon while Irene powers is explained better.
 

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There was a build up so saying the seeds is a forced device is just super wrong more like displaying hate indirectly.
thing is I agree with this but if MLG doesn't see this thought this way does that mean his opinion should get shunned, which is exactly what you're doing and what people are trying to get through to you... so again do really see what I mean? we're going in circles.... your view is not the consensus just like MLG's or anyone isn't. hope you get this soon cause it would be unfortunate if your weekly complaints ends up fucking it up for everyone and the reviews are canceled. just isn't that serious to get so worked up over, nobody gets paid for this
 

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Alright wanted to way in here on this topic. Raven you can say your opinion in a way that does not put others down here. We all care about the series (or at least most of us do) and just because Saber this week did not like the chapter does not mean he did a bad job, simply that you liked the chapter and he did not. You cannot say you are more objective since that's also subjective. You have a right to dislike the review, i am just not a fan of how you do it but it is what it is. And before you tell me it's none of my business, i will say it very much is. As not only is this posted publically, but also i dislike the symbolism in which these reviews are critiqued so harshly. It could easily lead to people not wanting to support what i think is a solid idea for each week.

Once again like i have said before one's goal in writing a review should not be to make yourself flawlessly unbiased or something of the sort. Simply because there is no such thing, your opinion has to go into a review otherwise it really is no more than an overview then. The only time where being more objective is preferable is when you do basically speak for a site such as when video game reviews come out. Even then there is going to be bias though. There simply is no need to denounce yourself here from the review not being your position, as that is assumed. This is just a review system in which one review a week is highlighted, not the consensus of the entire thread.

Honestly expanding upon my comment on objectivity, there really is no such thing with this type of stuff. Like when i use it and others use it it's more meant to mean this is good or bad by consensus. The other way you could use it is as a word to mean you look at things with less bias than normal. For example i could say i find a series insanely enjoyable but that i don't necessarily think everyone would like it if i was recommending it to someone. Still everything has subjective elements to it since we are not robots is my point. :XD

Also the argument we should not rate chapters low since the mangaka worked hard is also shaky. First of all the reader and author aspect is mutually beneficial. What i mean by that is one does not go far without the other. We don't have a manga if Hiro decides not to write it, and he cannot write it if we don't buy and support it. I personally do buy and support it, but i also understand many who simply cannot. The reality is our opinion individually means nothing to Hiro at all anyways so why care about that? If someone dislikes something say it, we are talking about a manga here not Hiro himself.

I wish we could all try and support this system by accepting we all have different opinions, but not by putting others down as a result. I think we should all think about the fact that if it was our review up there and it was getting attacked such as this and rated, how would we feel about that? I hope this slows down as it is really disappointing to see such back and forth over someone's personal opinion on a manga chapter.
I read MLG's review, and I kinda wish he added more opinions. Personally wouldn't mind opinions with summation of chapters, but reviewers should write however way they want. It was a good review though, but I don't like reading reviews due to horrible attention span, even though I like reading reviews for different points of views and to catch what I missed (which is higher than average with FT and average with OP :arf).

Naruto had great reviewers not because they wrote without bias (reviews should have bias, most things will actually have bias no matter how unbiased they claim to be), but because they wrote with personality. I used to look forward to certain reviews for the insight it provided (thanks to bias) and the humor infused into the reviews. Personally, I'd rather have reviews that show the reviewers' thoughts and personality, whether humorous, serious, eroge, or whatnot. Even the member whining about the reviews want them biased and subjective, but only if it adheres to her views and thoughts.


Anyway, the complaint against this week's review and the review from two weeks ago is ultimately this, "waah they criticized something I like, so the reviews suck! Haterz!!" It's annoying, and anyone who has an issue with reviews that don't agree with them shouldn't read any review in the first place that isn't from someone they know they'll agree with. So much salt over reviews, jeez.
 

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It's what a review should be.

Review → Reviewers put their opinions into their reviews.
Summary → Main points of something. No opinions.

This is not YP's summaries. This is not summary. This is review. "A" reviewer can't have same opinions as "B" reviewer has. Everyone has different viewpoint.

One can be biased. As long as they follow MangaHelpers' rules. As long as their review is contributive enough. As long as they don't swear/mock/bash/insult/flame.
 

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What the hell is wrong with swearing and bashing????
 

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Uhm.

Since when is "objectivity" needed in a review?

Can we just stop.
 

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Uhm.

Since when is "objectivity" needed in a review?

Can we just stop.
Agreed, and I think there's some sort of mix up here with the definition of some of these terms.
The only place where objectivity is needed is in a criticism or analysis of a literary piece. None of the two terms apply to the activity being carried out in the forum currently.
A review is just an overlook of the chapter, coupled wit the reviewer's thoughts/personal opinion about the chapter. It has nothing to do with objectivity, the matter itself is completely subjective.
So yeah, if people are looking for objectivity in these reviews, their looking in the wrong areas completely.
 

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@MLG Bradman I really liked your review. My girl really took a hit to her character this week. You were quite accurate with that. Especially with her being hypocritical lol. Hopefully she's redeemed soon. Good job!
 

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Amazing how more Spriggans are popular than the heroes now :arf
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Courtesy Maheshvara of FTB
This list covers sales surveyed from December 20, 2015 to December 11, 2016. It includes the raw yen totals of Blu-ray Discs, DVDs, music CDs, novels in print, and manga in print, but not games, film tickets, digital downloads, and other forms of media sales.

Rank - Estimated Sales(Yen) - Title
1 8,048,798,040 Love Live!
2 6,656,539,884 One Piece
3 6,390,467,716 Osomatsu-kun*
4 5,385,359,888 The IDOLM@STER
5 4,508,140,510 Haikyu!!
6 4,368,473,005 Mobile Suit Gundam
7 4,234,939,485 Girls und Panzer
8 4,216,044,680 Assassination Classroom
9 3,845,406,579 Attack on Titan
10 3,844,859,484 Kingdom
11 3,627,055,636 Star Wars Series
12 3,372,664,826 Monogatari Series
13 3,271,319,757 Tokyo Ghoul
14 2,862,527,019 Detective Conan
15 2,757,902,468 HiGH&LOW
16 2,727,119,180 The Seven Deadly Sins (Nakaba Suzuki)
17 2,703,360,132 your name.
18 2,668,416,616 Kamen Rider Series
19 2,596,513,416 My Hero Academia
20 2,005,169,078 One-Punch Man
21 1,954,757,080 Sekaiichi Muzukashii Koi
22 1,934,633,401 Harry Potter Series
23 1,929,039,372 ARIA
24 1,913,547,397 Terra Formars
25 1,878,804,092 Bungo Stray Dogs
26 1,831,704,636 Erased
27 1,787,213,253 Fairy Tail
28 1,779,308,558 Chihayafuru
29 1,763,517,268 Food Wars: Shokugeki no Sōma
30 1,736,933,640 Gintama
 

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Happy New Year to all FT members! Lets hope 2017 is the best year for Fairy Tail :D! ok maybe thats a stretch

On behalf of all of us greens here on the FT board, I'd like to wish you all a very happy new year! May everyone's 2017s be their best year yet!
Happy New Year to you too! And happy birthday as well ;3
 

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It's the end of another year of Fairy Tail. :celebrate

These are some of the things that I'm looking forward to in the next year. :)
  • END Stuff. :cool:
  • Acnologia's Backstory (I hope we get it soon). :zomg
  • The second Fairy Tail movie. :gaw
  • The return of the anime. :hee
 

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It's the end of another year of Fairy Tail. :celebrate

These are some of the things that I'm looking forward to in the next year. :)
  • END Stuff. :cool:
  • Acnologia's Backstory (I hope we get it soon). :zomg
  • The second Fairy Tail movie. :gaw
  • The return of the anime. :hee
About that, the 2nd movie is going to come out on Spring 2017, according to Reddit. :)
 
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