Hangout Fairy Tail Hangout Thread

[aymen24]

Serena here said he wasn't dead, and they just transmuted his missing parts....

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He knows... he's a doll made from a corpse

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[Darklord#10]

Serena here said he wasn't dead, and they just transmuted his missing parts....

Spoiler: .....

He knows... he's a doll made from a corpse

Spoiler: ....

crazy

 

[Shoutmon]

We are halfway through the story, which is sad because it has been the same mediocrity as always by mashima

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if we get Fairy Tail Z after this.

After so many people couldn't wait to see their Dead Rock waifu lol

Although I am a bit confused here. Wouldn't the most relevant female character default to being the Heroine, or does Mashima mean that the girl won't be getting deuteragonist-level focus?

 

[VG1989]

Although I am a bit confused here. Wouldn't the most relevant female character default to being the Heroine, or does Mashima mean that the girl won't be getting deuteragonist-level focus?

I think Hiro is going to again try to prove "He Can Do Everything", Space Manga was his "I can do dark stories and kill characters" and we know how bad that went, Now he is going to prove "I can do great without Ships".

 

[Darklord#10]

Although I am a bit confused here. Wouldn't the most relevant female character default to being the Heroine, or does Mashima mean that the girl won't be getting deuteragonist-level focus?

I don't really care about that tho. I don't see any issue if you ask me

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Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if we get Fairy Tail Z after this.

It should just end after this sequel. Everything is becoming boring asf

 

[Aniokku]

I think Hiro is going to again try to prove "He Can Do Everything", Space Manga was his "I can do dark stories and kill characters" and we know how bad that went, Now he is going to prove "I can do great without Ships".

Another failure?

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Did you already realize that in the future, Mashima would be out of Kodansha's main magazine?

EZ is ending soon, DR(death rock) will be monthly, and YQ100 doesn't seem to be coming out of pocket, and unless Mashima has another series lined up for weekly, Mashima would be out of WSM. The only thing missing is that he has a Tankōbon series

 

[Steven]

We are halfway through the story, which is sad because it has been the same mediocrity as always by mashima

What do you mean with "already"?The Manga is already 5 years old which is insane.But yeah,after that,stop with the FT content.Its getting worse and worse

I want to live in peace and view the moon while drinking
Gildarts level MP
Sexual assault

And i want a Manga which does not has millions of retcons every second chapter

 

[Shoutmon]

I don't really care about that tho. I don't see any issue if you ask me

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It should just end after this sequel. Everything is becoming boring asf

Tbh I think a series with the main cast as full adults could be interesting, although I would hope that they get more substantial design changes than what their Edolas counterparts got.

But yeah I'm not sure where the story could go after fighting Dragon Gods.

 

[Aniokku]

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if we get Fairy Tail Z after this.

Wouldn't it be a "Generations"? It doesn't matter that they get something else out of FT, I only ask that it be of quality, so far I feel that I have wasted my time reading this sequel, and I don't like to feel that, I really like FT

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What do you mean with "already"?The Manga is already 5 years old which is insane.But yeah,after that,stop with the FT content.Its getting worse and worse


And i want a Manga which does not has millions of retcons every second chapter

has it been 5 years? that's crazy, but I think FT has a lot of potential, I've said it many times, the problem is that it has the same person in charge, which means, the same execution, same tropes and cliches, excessive fanservice, same inconsistency in power and logic. If they release a new manga with another person in charge and who can effectively exploit that potential that FT has, I'm going to take it but if it's not like that, you're right, it's better that it ends there

 

[Garmadooon]

Really funny and yet I remember seeing people say that the writing was better than Alvarez but the fact is that 100YQ is a copy of Alvarez, Hiro rectifies what he wants at the level of which the story advances, I'm not even surprised that he forgets what happened in the previous chapters.

 

[Steven]

has it been 5 years? that's crazy, but I think FT has a lot of potential, I've said it many times, the problem is that it has the same person in charge, which means, the same execution, same tropes and cliches, excessive fanservice, same inconsistency in power and logic. If they release a new manga with another person in charge and who can effectively exploit that potential that FT has, I'm going to take it but if it's not like that, you're right, it's better that it ends there

Yes,FT has big potential but the way Hiro write this Manga legit kills that potential.Most Arcs ranged between Trash and Mid in 100YQ.Only good Arc was Aldoron Arc because Aldoron itself was interesting and Guildmember vs Guildmember is always peak in FT hence Fantasia Arc is still my favorite Arc.

But its pointless to bring new content after 100YQ.The OG series already had no real maingoal.100YQ has a maingoal but it was semi random because Hiro had to make new insane strong enemys which nobody heard before.And that makes Acnologia looks even more stupid.Imagine you want to kill every Dragon but somehow you cant find the 5 strongest of them kek.Selene gets a pass because she was most likely in a different Dimension.And Viernes is also getting a pass for whatever Vierness is.But Ignia,Aldoron and Merc?But im sure Hiro already forgot what Acnologias Plan was

 

[Aniokku]

Yes,FT has big potential but the way Hiro write this Manga legit kills that potential.Most Arcs ranged between Trash and Mid in 100YQ.Only good Arc was Aldoron Arc because Aldoron itself was interesting and Guildmember vs Guildmember is always peak in FT hence Fantasia Arc is still my favorite Arc.

But its pointless to bring new content after 100YQ.The OG series already had no real maingoal.100YQ has a maingoal but it was semi random because Hiro had to make new insane strong enemys which nobody heard before.And that makes Acnologia looks even more stupid.Imagine you want to kill every Dragon but somehow you cant find the 5 strongest of them kek.Selene gets a pass because she was most likely in a different Dimension.And Viernes is also getting a pass for whatever Vierness is.But Ignia,Aldoron and Merc?But im sure Hiro already forgot what Acnologias Plan was

Well I don't think it's necessary to stick with the "fight shonen" pattern, FT was a fantasy adventure series, I don't think FT needs to have fights in every arc, it could focus on exploration and world building (there are 3/ 4 continents and 3 dimensions, and not even the ishgar of earth land has been fully explored), expansion of the magic system, political conflicts between continents, exploration of mythology (there are at least 5 mythologies or references to them in FT, Greek, Babylonian, Norse, Chinese, Japanese), exploration of forms of magic (maybe see witches, necromancers, shikigamis, sorcerers, auspices, hexes, strigois, etc), you don't need surprisingly strong enemies or dragons, there are several creatures that could generate great combat and They would be great as bosses, for example: the kraken, basilisk, chimera, fenrir, mare, jormungandr, trolls, valkyries, nian, pazuzu, oni, lernaean hydra, nue, yamata-no-orochi, or adapt myths such as: the apple of discord, the 12 labors of hercules, Ragnarök, the circles of hell, the seven against Thebes, the frozen lake of Vänern, etc.

There really are many things that can be explored

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

 

[Shoutmon]

Dead Rock is sounding better and better the more I hear of it.

Hopefully it's a huge success that'll show Mashima that he doesn't have to keep following his standard formula

 

[Darklord#10]

Dead Rock is sounding better and better the more I hear from it.

Hopefully it's a huge success that'll show Mashima that he doesn't have to keep following his standard formula

You was thinking what I was thinking about. Hmmm we're very alike lol . I usually like male centric story because sometimes I just don't want to be dealing with this waifu, dommy mommy, milf type shit it's gets annoying. This kind of stuff sips into power scaling discussion which gets annoying. So sometimes I just want to read stories like blue lock, Vinland saga etc. It's a little bit weird

 

[Shoutmon]

You was thinking what I was thinking about. Hmmm we're very alike lol . I usually like male centric story because sometimes I just don't want to be dealing with this waifu, dommy mommy, milf type shit it's gets annoying. This kind of stuff sips into power scaling discussion which gets annoying. So sometimes I just want to read stories like blue lock, Vinland saga etc. It's a little bit weird

In my case, I like stories that feel similar to DBZ, especially where the main goal and driving force is getting stronger lol (and actually training to get there)

Now while we don't know how the powerscaling/progression aspects of Dead Rock is gonna be handled, specifically having friendship not be one of the main themes is a step in the right direction imo

 

[Pablinski]

Mashima released another series, mmm...

It is admired that Mashima is a hard worker, but the fact that he puts out another project when two others are still being published does not seem like a good idea.

There is a very famous saying and it is the one that says that "the person who covers a lot does not squeeze much", hopefully Mashima does not neglect the other series that continue to be published because they focus on his new project (Dead Rock), which we will see such is it.

 

[SleipnirX]

It should just end after this sequel. Everything is becoming boring asf

sadly, yeah it seems Mashima has lost any enthusiasm for this story/ these characters. 100YQ has just been phoning in the most basic story possible. (by that, I mean I’m sure character design and storyboarding is still a lot of work, just he’s not interested in adding to the lore of the universe much further, or coming up with demanding intricate storylines with decent twists).

I’d still like to see something like a “Fairy Tail - S Class” follow-on, but it would depend on if Ueda was willing to take full control. I think he’d probably be coming up with better stuff at this point. Still have nil interest in a next generations series, I don’t like the dynamic of Boruto and I don’t see how this could work any better tbh.

 

[Aniokku]

sadly, yeah it seems Mashima has lost any enthusiasm for this story/ these characters. 100YQ has just been phoning in the most basic story possible. (by that, I mean I’m sure character design and storyboarding is still a lot of work, just he’s not interested in adding to the lore of the universe much further, or coming up with demanding intricate storylines with decent twists).

I’d still like to see something like a “Fairy Tail - S Class” follow-on, but it would depend on if Ueda was willing to take full control. I think he’d probably be coming up with better stuff at this point. Still have nil interest in a next generations series, I don’t like the dynamic of Boruto and I don’t see how this could work any better tbh.

I think it's different, FT fans are much more willing to read a new FT story than Naruto fans.

The plot of the 2 stories are different, FT gives place to explore and tell many stories (usually focused on Natsu and Lucy but also on the other members of FT), while Naruto is more linear, since it has (had) a goal.

We see this in the large number of stories told in spin offs or light novels that FT has: Ice Trail, Blue Mistral, Gaiden, Happy's Heroic, Trouble Twins, Wonderland, Zero, etc.

As for a "Next generations" of Ft, it would work much better than boruto:

1) The couples, it is clear that the Nalu is the most popular ship in the series, unlike the Naruhina that was not really liked by many. And not only the Nalu, even though FT is not a romcom, the series has better couples than the Big 3

With this, I am sure that many of us would be happy to see a series with the children of Nalu and the other couples.

2) The "family" dynamic with Naruto and boruto was a disaster at the beginning of the series, and that was because Naruto never touched on the "family" theme within the main series, while for FT the family theme would not be something new

3) Boruto has a lighter tone and with more comedy than Naruto, with this, it is clear that boruto was not going to generate the same level of quality and narrative that Naruto had, while an NG for FT, can give the characters that "push" of maturity and responsibility they need to grow.

 

[diceroll812]

I think it's different, FT fans are much more willing to read a new FT story than Naruto fans.

The plot of the 2 stories are different, FT gives place to explore and tell many stories (usually focused on Natsu and Lucy but also on the other members of FT), while Naruto is more linear, since it has (had) a goal.

We see this in the large number of stories told in spin offs or light novels that FT has: Ice Trail, Blue Mistral, Gaiden, Happy's Heroic, Trouble Twins, Wonderland, Zero, etc.

As for a "Next generations" of Ft, it would work much better than boruto:

1) The couples, it is clear that the Nalu is the most popular ship in the series, unlike the Naruhina that was not really liked by many. And not only the Nalu, even though FT is not a romcom, the series has better couples than the Big 3

With this, I am sure that many of us would be happy to see a series with the children of Nalu and the other couples.

2) The "family" dynamic with Naruto and boruto was a disaster at the beginning of the series, and that was because Naruto never touched on the "family" theme within the main series, while for FT the family theme would not be something new

3) Boruto has a lighter tone and with more comedy than Naruto, with this, it is clear that boruto was not going to generate the same level of quality and narrative that Naruto had, while an NG for FT, can give the characters that "push" of maturity and responsibility they need to grow.

Tbh at this point in time a "next generation" type deal wouldn't be that bad since the original characters plots where almost all resolved in the og series and the focused plot is weirdly hurting the current series.
One of Mashima's biggest strengths while drawing FT always was the characters relationships and interactions and the pacing changes of each arc due to a non-linear structure to the plot:
One arc he could be doing a guild battle > the next a contained story between two characters > next a more plot heavy story focusing on one of the mains like TOH.
Now with the "defeating the plot dragons" story he can only do it more or less like - defeat a plot dragon arc > contrived excuse to pause the quest arc > defeat a plot dragon arc... All of this not even counting how he needs to invent new ways to justify characters outside of team Natsu to appear in the quest that is being taken in a different continent altogether.
Not to say Mashima is as focused with FT as he always was, but he also sabotaged himself and his strengths quite a bit from the initial setup imo, I think a more slice-of-life story / a story focusing on different characters (or at least outside of the constricting 100YQ plot), would help him quite a bit.