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[Atobe the king]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

I'd rather not bring Naruto into it because i admittedly dropped it, FT has something about it that will make me never drop it, idk what that is but i fell in love with this manga and its quirky bunch of characters.

Natsu and Lucy together is generally lulz, and its nice to see Natsu not necessarily overpower an enemy as he usually does because for all intents and purposes this guy owned him lol.

 

[ca12nag3]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

You know its the quality of the story itself and its elements that make it more enjoyable. The way they win makes me kinda laugh but not in a upsetting manner. FT never goes over the top and thats what makes it 1 of the best manga atm.

 

[Atobe the king]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

Yes, i never feel like "you guys had no real business winning that" when it comes to FT, so i generally enjoy the battles. I think it's actually the pacing that makes me like it, this arc SORT of feels like its dragging on but i dont mind it.

(Anyone who reads AG has been waiting for the storm regalia for a good 2 years now i think?)

 

[ca12nag3]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

I kinda put AG on hiatus atm and i never discussed anything bout AG so its not as important to me as FT or some other mangas.
I talk a lot about FT and want to discuss things to get deeper into it. Anyone that likes a manga automaticaly starts talking about it. So FT is rather popular = good. Many people go on here and discuss.

I thought the Lucy flame-on was funny, not to far fetched since weve seen kain using the doll to boost his own powers as well. And as expected by most Ultear grabed Zeref and got out of there. Only thing that makes me wonder is if she expected Kain to lose thus got out of there?

 

[Nonlife]

^When I started to read the manga, I wondered how many ties it had to Rave Master. (ex. Was Natsu's dragon really one of Let&Julia's people?) Now, I think it's a separate world altogether, with the fact Gerard (whatever his name) looks like a Siegfried clone & Etherion has been harnessed for use as a weapon.

 

[ca12nag3]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

I was thinking that lucy may have a secondary magic as a spell caster. The fact that she could cast urano meteriora would mean that she could cast other spells. Can you imagine she casting spells like Hades?

Anyway, for those who were wondering why Lucy wasn't burn from Natsu's fire, I've reread this chapter and realised that the doll was indeed in iron form throughout the whole chapter. On Pg 17, Natsu named the lucy attack as " fire dragon's IRON fist" This is also the reason why Kain was knocked from all the Lucy's punches and kicks.

Anyway, if Kain were to fight again(which I doubt so), I think it would be funny if he fights Gajeel. Yummy iron for the metal dragon slayer!

-Lucy prolly only uses spirits it was just that the guy in question *i forgot his name* thought Lucy was capable of using that spell and she could. Its a stellar spell btw so i asume its a high lvl one that only top class mages can use.
-Also Lucy+Juvia make shifted a Unison raid, Jellal said about that that some people search their entire life to learn that ability but arnt able to.
-Lucy was able to summon all her spirits at once during the Loki mini arc in front of the Spirit King. Karin could only summon 2 spirits and that got her killed.

So People saying Lucy is a weak character or downgrade her to second grade mage dont see the truth here.

Another thing is that Lucy only last year joined FT as a mage, before that she might have only been doing some amature magic. She had to be explained everything about questing etc.
For a year of magic she aint doing bad being with Cana in a Sclass trial.

Dont forget that Natsu and Gray were tutored since small children, Erza did hard labour at the tower before escaping. Lucy was in a ivory tower. So there are some things to think about before judging Lucy's capabilities

 

[zelllogan]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

Lucy was in a ivory tower ... maybe but she was in this tower with her mother ... likely one of the strongest stellar mage of her time.

 

[Atobe the king]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

Lucy is Yuna (X not x-2), that is all. I praise this manga for having their action female as one of the stronger characters in the series (Erza <3) because in most cases everyone is a Lucy. As in not very adept at fighting. Or they are adept at fighting....just to 1/3 extent as the male characters. I for one hope natsu never gets on Erzas level lol.

The one thing i dislike about Lucy's spirits is that her most powerful one is essentially another character rather than another spirit. Leo battled Capricorn on his own when it should be Leo/Lucy but eh what can you do lol.

As for Ultear leaving...

-she's designated for Gray she can't be bested until they have an encounter
-she's clearly too much for ole Dragneel, they're both pretty beat up but im sure she was owning him.
-she's too attractive to pair up with Kain :P
-she's probably too powerful to be in a joke fight like this

Oh i also think GH is pretty meh, but they don't make up the arc, they're just a piece of a bigger puzzle. Now that this lulz diversion is out the way I really want to see what karma does to Cana.

(does it bother anyone else that Zeref turned out to be bishie? I've been a weird combination of appalled and delighted since FT doesn't actually have "standard" bishies except maybe Jellal?)

 

[ca12nag3]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

Lucy is Yuna (X not x-2), that is all. I praise this manga for having their action female as one of the stronger characters in the series (Erza <3) because in most cases everyone is a Lucy. As in not very adept at fighting. Or they are adept at fighting....just to 1/3 extent as the male characters. I for one hope natsu never gets on Erzas level lol.

The one thing i dislike about Lucy's spirits is that her most powerful one is essentially another character rather than another spirit. Leo battled Capricorn on his own when it should be Leo/Lucy but eh what can you do lol.

As for Ultear leaving...

-she's designated for Gray she can't be bested until they have an encounter
-she's clearly too much for ole Dragneel, they're both pretty beat up but im sure she was owning him.
-she's too attractive to pair up with Kain :P
-she's probably too powerful to be in a joke fight like this

Oh i also think GH is pretty meh, but they don't make up the arc, they're just a piece of a bigger puzzle. Now that this lulz diversion is out the way I really want to see what karma does to Cana.

(does it bother anyone else that Zeref turned out to be bishie? I've been a weird combination of appalled and delighted since FT doesn't actually have "standard" bishies except maybe Jellal?)

-she's designated for Gray she can't be bested until they have an encounter
Likely very likely but there is 1 thing tho. Gray doesnt know Ultear is Uls daughter and most likely Ultear doesnt know Gray was her student. Unless she picked that up from Leon or during the fights around that monster.
Anyways i do expect a reconsiliation around Ul with Ultear. Its just near impossible to have both mother and daugher die/lose. Just thinking of the broader picture here


-she's clearly too much for ole Dragneel, they're both pretty beat up but im sure she was owning him.

I think Zeref is her main responcibility. If need be she would finish the job. If she didnt have Zeref there she prolly would have fought.

-she's too attractive to pair up with Kain :P

Most definitly

-she's probably too powerful to be in a joke fight like this

Im not sure about her powerfullness we know so little of the effect of her magic yet. Also shes a master of more then just 1 typ of magic. Dont forget her transformation magic ability. Thats a different typ from her Time magic.


Actualy FT has 4 main characters each with their own storyline non of the lines are actualy finished. However Lucys line has no real set goal but im sure somewhere down the line well see it being unfold.

The 4 lines

-Natsu line, involving Natsu,Wendy,Gajeel i suspect Zeref and the dragons of wich we only seen glimps. Natsu and the others look for the dragons, Zeref talks about Natsu as still not able to defeat him? wich is a weird question. Gildarts ofc mentioned the black dragon but he isnt a part of the line itself unless more is shown.

-Gray line, involving Gray,Leon,Ul,Ultear. Basicaly the reconciliation between the 2 students is finished whats left is Ultears part in this line, wich can go any way.

-Erza line.Involving Erza,Jellal, her previous nakama. Erzas line is mostly finished with the destruction of the tower and the goodbye but no farewell of her previous nakama. Only Jellal still imprisoned is a open ending here. Im sure we will see him return and theyll finaly be together. Lots of fans will cheer now

-Lucy line. This is the most mysterious one, involving Lucy,spirits,Layla and her dad i guess. Layla was a mage! and she had 3 stellar spirits. She died/disapeared the same time the dragons went missing. Also Lucy has a extreme potential as a mage *i explained in the previous post ^^* Somewhere due to the death and disapearance of the dragons her line might tie in with that of Natsu.


Well thats it ^^ for the main story lines. Some people might have a bit different view of things but its just a global look on it from me here

What i intend to say here is that you got 4 well developed characters here with such a big difference in their past yet get together and are friends.
I love reading about this

 

[Sevenheadedmirror]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

I understand some people say FT is supposed to be the ultimate team and they are; the best LAW ABIDING TEAM. So what corruption doesn't bring power? groups that constantly go to war and use forbidden techniques get dust over their risks?, quests for mysterious power are give nothing even if successful?. Grimmoire was the absolute strongest in terms of dark guilds, they make a surprise attack and instead of confusion and weakness they get their asses handed to them. Why was Makarov's ass kicked in the first place then? When you make your strongest character lose that miserably it can only mean one thing: Shit is getting serious!!!, there's really no backing down from it, unless you are a declared comedy, without disappointing, it is that basic rule, even for kids. But we get one victory and two single chapter defeats and a regular defeat from the bad guys. Even Bleach had more logic towards the Espada's power level. I don't see how anybody could take the seven kin seriously any more, they were pretty hipped, but now they have shown to be yet another sucky team with an over-powerful leader

People say to not over think stuff and that's not what I'm asking from anybody, quite the opposite I said so in my previous post but... if there are no competent villains heroes' strength of will, motivation and sense of growth are cheap and clumsy. How can an unrivalled, unparalleled, unbeatable team can get a dramatic twist on beating anybody when they always do?

 

[Atobe the king]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

I take the approach i take when i read Prince of Tennis, Ryoma is undefeated, he has never lost a singles match in the series, that much was obvious from the get go. FT is pretty much like that was well so rather than see if they win i just wait to see HOW it was done like i do with Ryoma's matches.

Losses (along with deaths of important characters) are what i like to call fake drama that aren't really necessary for a plot to be good or progress effectively.

EDIT- fucking lulz

I was watching that 70's show and red summed up what i was saying

Red - I was watching Perry Mason!

Kitty - Surprise, Perry Mason wins

Red - It's HOW he wins that matters, that's the magic !

 

[Sevenheadedmirror]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

I take the approach i take when i read Prince of Tennis, Ryoma is undefeated, he has never lost a singles match in the series, that much was obvious from the get go. FT is pretty much like that was well so rather than see if they win i just wait to see HOW it was done like i do with Ryoma's matches.
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well we agree to some part. I don't see FT losing unless an immediate rematch is done but to me Losses and deaths are vital. I don't know prince of tennis, I've heard of it though, but I'm guessing Ryoma never wins perfectly or every single point. We know the whole thing can't lose, otherwise it would be a very stupid downer ending at this point, but at least having a hard time is important and one can't have a close match when the game is 70-0.

Also deaths make everything more real, it is cheap if overused, but for me Jiraya's death and Azuma's were great examples, also Luffy's brother, they made them more awesome, sometimes seeing a hero getting curb stomped and killed is the way to go to make the enemies that more imposing, sometimes it's a great way to make a good bye for a great char (Jiraya, Luffy's brother) and other times it's a good way to make bad chars great and more important (Azuma).

LOL on the 70's show. :P

 

[k-dom]

Re: Fairy Tail 227 Discussion/ 228 Predictions

-she's designated for Gray she can't be bested until they have an encounter
Likely very likely but there is 1 thing tho. Gray doesnt know Ultear is Uls daughter and most likely Ultear doesnt know Gray was her student. Unless she picked that up from Leon or during the fights around that monster.
Anyways i do expect a reconsiliation around Ul with Ultear. Its just near impossible to have both mother and daugher die/lose. Just thinking of the broader picture here

Well I guess as soon as Gray display a bit of his magic she will be able to make 1+1

 

[White Silver King]

Gray doesnt know Ultear is Uls daughter and most likely Ultear doesnt know Gray was her student.

I don't know about that. The way Jellal said it (her name's origin) made me think Ultear being Ur's daughter is common knowledge among those who know her or Ur. It's probably another reason she was admitted to the Council.

Im not sure about her powerfullness we know so little of the effect of her magic yet. Also shes a master of more then just 1 typ of magic. Dont forget her transformation magic ability. Thats a different typ from her Time magic.

Well, half of what you just said makes her seem more powerful lmao. And there's no way she's not at least Erza's level (I'm willing to bet she's more powerful), she's been saved for a fight [we get to see] for 2 arcs. Additionally, she's the most powerful of the 7 Kin, including Azuma who everyone is so eager to call one of the strongest mages in the series. If she's not mega strong that's just bull-shit writing on Mashima's part.

And I, for one, don't want to see Ultear fight Gray. With the way this arc is heading, she'd lose and I think she should be leaps and bounds more powerful than Gray. If she has to be beaten (which every bad guy in this series will have to be because it is against the laws of reality for a major FT character to lose) I want it to be by Erza, Makarov, Gildarts or possibly Hades or a full-powered Zeref.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

i dunno if this question has already been asked, but whatever. DO mages have an affinity to some type of magic, like in naruto ninjas have affinity to special elements,or it doesnt matter for mages.

 

[Krono]

i dunno if this question has already been asked, but whatever. DO mages have an affinity to some type of magic, like in naruto ninjas have affinity to special elements,or it doesnt matter for mages.

Nope, doesn't matter. A certain degree of natural strength/talent for magic seems to exist which partially explains why - for example - Jet and Droy are so much weaker than most of their peers. However that's it. Wizards in Fairy Tail aren't locked into one element or type of magic like Ninja's in Naruto are. Erza could theoretically learn all the magic Mirajane knows and vice versa, the only limitation would be the time and effort involved in learning a different skill set, which it many cases it takes a few years to really master it to a high level.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

Nope, doesn't matter. A certain degree of natural strength/talent for magic seems to exist which partially explains why - for example - Jet and Droy are so much weaker than most of their peers. However that's it. Wizards in Fairy Tail aren't locked into one element or type of magic like Ninja's in Naruto are. Erza could theoretically learn all the magic Mirajane knows and vice versa, the only limitation would be the time and effort involved in learning a different skill set, which it many cases it takes a few years to really master it to a high level.

oh thanks.makes sense.I thought so too just wanted to make sure

 

[Krono]

Apparently there's a Fairy Tail/Rave Master crossover one shot now:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-04-20/fairy-tail-x-rave-crossover-manga-1-shot-published

 

[kkck]

Re: Fairy Tail 231 Discussion/ 232 Predictions

Is there going to be a chapter this weekend? Or is it next weekend that has no chapter?

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

i think its the next weekend kkck