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What do you like most about FT/what will you miss most about FT? (3 choices)

  • The individual characters

  • Moments when the guild is together

  • The storytelling and plot twists

  • Speculating about what could come up in the story/plot/characters

  • Shipping moments that have or you wish to take place

  • The feels

  • The fights/battles

  • The character designs/appearance

  • The villains

  • The comedy

  • The fanservice

  • The epic entrances, lines, and badass moments

  • Seeing side guilds (non-FT) get attention

  • The anime

  • Soundtracks/OP/ED in the anime

  • Mashima's art/twitter


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Bixlow is weaker than Lucy and Gray.

He only won against Gray because Gray's magic was sealed by Fried's trap, and Lucy only had such a difficult time against him because he got her keys away from her before she could summon Loki. Gajeel is certainly stronger than him.

Fried's main power is his runes. His direct fighting with Yami no Ecriture is secondary. While he's done decent with the direct fighting, Gajeel is almost certainly still superior seeing as he's on a par with Natsu.
It's still part of his power regardless. Gajeel is most certainly inferior that is. On par with Natsu ? I would really like it if you present what you're basing these statements on. Seeing Gajeel's performance through the entirety of the series, he shouldn't even stand a 20% chance against Freed. And neither Natsu for that matter (Unless he uses DF or LFD mode.)

Seeing as Mirajane was defeated by a sucker punch from Elfman who is below Natsu and Gajeel, I rather doubt Fried did better than they could have. They gave Laxus quite the run for his money and eventually defeated him. If they hadn't been so surprised that he was a DS that he could catch them flat footed with a lightning DS roar, they might not have even needed him to screw up with Fairy Law.
A sucker punch is still a sucker punch. Even in the latest chapters, Mira is still regarded as a vastly superior individual to Natsu. They were combined against a messed up Laxus who lost his will to fight. Against a full-powered Laxus they were almost reduced to dust. And it's not that they were surprised, their very attacks couldn't scratch him at full power. In a one-on-one, where do both of them stand ? That's where . He stood against an S-class mage far better than either of them could. Not to mention that he defeated someone about a 7 times stronger than Gajeel with ease.
 

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Still put up a decent fight. Much more decent than Natsu and Gajeel could've ever done.
That's not a decent fight. I think Natsu and Gajeel could have done so much better.

See how things works when you're not supporting your arguments?

Fried will just get kill by Dragon Force Rouge and Sting. Natsu doesn't even need his Lightning Fire Magic to beat them.
 

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That's not a decent fight. I think Natsu and Gajeel could have done so much better.

See how things works when you're not supporting your arguments?

Fried will just get kill by Dragon Force Rouge and Sting. Natsu doesn't even need his Lightning Fire Magic to beat them.
And you're the one supporting your argument ? Well, Natsu was one-shotted by Erza who's strength equals Mira. No matter how horrible Freed did, he still did much better. And whether you accept it or not he did put up a decent fight against Mira.

Are you to provide even the slightest of proofs that Sting or Rouge can even scratch Freed ?
 

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And you're the one supporting your argument ? Well, Natsu was one-shotted by Erza who's strength equals Mira. No matter how horrible Freed did, he still did much better. And whether you accept it or not he did put up a decent fight against Mira.

Are you to provide even the slightest of proofs that Sting or Rouge can even scratch Freed ?
It was sarcasm. Man, people of internet, I'm impressed.

Natsu/Erza match was way back than and in no comparison to Natsu now. It was also clear that it's meant to be a joke, can't believe any one actually take that seriously. Erza strength is also clearly more than Mira since she defeat the person that beat Mira. They are only mention as rival before Mira gone all emo on her sister death and stop using her magic for a while. Erza had been doing quest and are still training her magic during those time.

O้h, and clearly Erza can one shot every person that Natsu fight against, like Hades or those people, right? Because those people can't one shot Natsu. You really can't take comedic fight seriously. Nami is stronger than the monster trio if that were the case.

Fried only put up a decent fight against Mira if you call getting one side dominated a decent fight. He fail to put in one single blow that matter.

If you want proof that Sting or Rouge will scratch Freed, take a look at the blow that crush the coliseum arena. Fried has shown nothing at all near that scale in his magic. That's enough proof for me.
 
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It was sarcasm. Man, people of internet, I'm impressed.

Natsu/Erza match was way back than and in no comparison to Natsu now. It was also clear that it's meant to be a joke, can't believe any one actually take that seriously. Erza strength is also clearly more than Mira since she defeat the person that beat Mira. They are only mention as rival before Mira gone all emo on her sister death and stop using her magic for a while. Erza had been doing quest and are still training her magic during those time.

O้h, and clearly Erza can one shot every person that Natsu fight against, like Hades or those people, right? Because those people can't one shot Natsu. You really can't take comedic fight seriously. Nami is stronger than the monster trio if that were the case.
A completely misplaced and a useless sarcasm. It wasn't even sarcastic.

The difference between them now and then is still the same. It wasn't a joke, please god no. If it was a joke like how Lucy beats up Natsu, no one will be surprised. He went and challenged her only to get one-shotted. She's clearly stronger than Mira to you. Azuma already defeated her once, her come back was because of the Tenrou tree supporting her.

Because Hades didn't toy around with all of them with only 0.01% or his power. Because he clearly couldn't one shot them if he waned to. We're strongly getting away from the topic, either we get back to it or agree to disagree.
 

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If you're referring to re-Phantom Lord where Erza could scare Gray and Natsu into hugging, then yes, her beating him was a throwaway gag. The only serious match those two have had was interrupted.

As for Freed beating Rustyrose. Yes, he did manage that. With the help of Biscklow and Elfman. Not bad, but it's not him singlehandedly taking out a powerful opponent like... say... Zancrow. Even if everyone hated the ending to that match, it was still Natsu taking someone down on his own, while Freed was coming in and sweeping up some of the leftover enemies once the fighting had been going on for a while. Freed's not weak, but he's not nearly as powerful as you're playing him up to be.
 

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No, not her scaring them. It's the match that was interrupted. It was continued in the next chapter with her losing the well to fight and decided to one-shot him.

Didn't look like he needed any help for me. Also, aren't you ignoring that Rustyrose was torturing them th whole time the Tenou Tree fell ? Aren't you also ignoring that Natsu along with Lucy were losing to Kain Hikaru in a 2vs1 ? I'm not playing it up, I'm saying it exactly how it is. So far, we've seen that the ordinary Mages (Cana, Elfman, Juvia) can't even scratch him, while still putting up a decent fight and landing several blows against Mirajane.

And even if by some miracle Natsu happens to be stronger. The same can't be said for Gajeel. He who was pitifully defeated by a goat and a chicken.
 

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Are you ignoring that Natsu and Lucy beat Kain?

Cana and Juvia fought in a setting where Freed had time to prepare, which is where he excels. I've said that before. Elfman had already been beaten up by Evergreen-as he tried to fight her without looking, and Erza oneshotting Natsu was a throwaway gag. All seriousness for the match ended when Erza was arrested. Mashima wrote a joke conclusion.
 

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Come on, fried did not even vaguely hold his ground against mira.... He ended up basically screaming in desperation at the sheer volume of magic power mira has. Fried is powerful but I don't see what exactly would put him over gajeel. Would he put up a fight against gajeel? Definitely, be stronger? I doubt it... If anything I would argue that fried has at most shown the level natsu or gajeel had shown before the timeskip (no clue on how powerful he would be now though).

Gajeel won against the goat and the chicken.... and nothing suggest that at least the goat was not a decent opponent and to boot those two did have decent teamwork and gajeel did have to cover for levy (though levy did save him too). It was only a convenient plot device that allowed for the guy with script magic to just so happen to be flawlessly able to entirely bypass gajeel's usual defenses though(he was able to cut through dragon scales like butter even though hardly anyone is usually able to do that).
 

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Come on, fried did not even vaguely hold his ground against mira.... He ended up basically screaming in desperation at the sheer volume of magic power mira has. Fried is powerful but I don't see what exactly would put him over gajeel. Would he put up a fight against gajeel? Definitely, be stronger? I doubt it... If anything I would argue that fried has at most shown the level natsu or gajeel had shown before the timeskip (no clue on how powerful he would be now though).

Gajeel won against the goat and the chicken.... and nothing suggest that at least the goat was not a decent opponent and to boot those two did have decent teamwork and gajeel did have to cover for levy (though levy did save him too). It was only a convenient plot device that allowed for the guy with script magic to just so happen to be flawlessly able to entirely bypass gajeel's usual defenses though(he was able to cut through dragon scales like butter even though hardly anyone is usually able to do that).
He managed to land several blows before being overwhelmed, better than being helplessly one-shotted. Then what is it that you see that would put Gajeel above him ? What did Gajeel show before the timeskip ? Shown the same level as Natsu, true, since Natsu is the main character. But what did Gajeel do to get lumped with those two ? His helpless defeat against Natsu in full-power ? His struggle to draw against a cat ? A cat who was worthless against the Seven Kins ?

He won, you say ? He didn't look like the one standing to me. If Erza didn't arrive there, the goat dude could've killed him 10 times over. And even if he won, doesn't change that he was left in a miserable state against two dudes who acknowledged themselves as far inferior to the Seven Kins.

Please, instead of continuously trying to counter each of my arguments. Tell me what is it that you see about Gajeel to put him in the same tier as Freed.

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Are you ignoring that Natsu and Lucy beat Kain?

Cana and Juvia fought in a setting where Freed had time to prepare, which is where he excels. I've said that before. Elfman had already been beaten up by Evergreen-as he tried to fight her without looking, and Erza oneshotting Natsu was a throwaway gag. All seriousness for the match ended when Erza was arrested. Mashima wrote a joke conclusion.
Whenever did I show you that I ignored that ?

People, just because it came in a comedic manner, doesn't mean it's a joke. Everyone was shocked at how easily she defeated him, and then Laxus came in to laugh at how weak Natsu is for losing to Erza like that. Do you think if it was meant as a joke then they would take it that seriously ?
 

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Whenever did I show you that I ignored that ?
Aren't you also ignoring that Natsu along with Lucy were losing to Kain Hikaru in a 2vs1 ?
Or is the fact that Lucy, who next to no one would argue is at the top of the guild, and Natsu, who was already worn from a match and a half, had to put some effort into a match enough to completely trump the fact that they did pull off a win?

If Erza being able to oneshot Natsu was meant to be taken seriously, then there serious match wouldn't have shown them both trying there all and trading blows. Massive reaction from the characters over anything that happens in Fairy Tail is also often used for comic effect, so your not doing much to convince me that her beating Natsu was anything more than a quick laugh. Not to say Erza couldn't normally beat Natsu, but in a serious fight it wouldn't be over nearly as fast/ Especially now.

Although really, this whole argument seems a bit moot, considering that Erza and Natsu have both shown off since the timeskip and for all we know Freed could have spent his training time making Laxus sandwiches. Gajeel and Natsu have both pulled of dual element too, which Mashima doesn't hesitate to showcase as intensly powerful. Even if it turns out that Gajeel didn't keep the power up he still had the power to pull it off. Don't forget that.
 

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Come on, fried did not even vaguely hold his ground against mira.... He ended up basically screaming in desperation at the sheer volume of magic power mira has. Fried is powerful but I don't see what exactly would put him over gajeel. Would he put up a fight against gajeel? Definitely, be stronger? I doubt it... If anything I would argue that fried has at most shown the level natsu or gajeel had shown before the timeskip (no clue on how powerful he would be now though).
He did do fairly well in the physical battle after he turned himself into a demon as well. But that speaks more to the fact that Mirajane spent a year as an S-Class wizard, stopped improving when she was 17, and doesn't quite measure up to Laxus, Erza, and Mystogan. She's catching back up, but being too low on magic to fight effectively after using Satan Soul against Elfman only to be KOed by a sucker punch speaks volumes about how far behind the other S-Class wizards she was.

He managed to land several blows before being overwhelmed, better than being helplessly one-shotted. Then what is it that you see that would put Gajeel above him ? What did Gajeel show before the timeskip ? Shown the same level as Natsu, true, since Natsu is the main character. But what did Gajeel do to get lumped with those two ? His helpless defeat against Natsu in full-power ? His struggle to draw against a cat ? A cat who was worthless against the Seven Kins ?
Pantherlily was worthless against the Seven Kin? He lasted as long against Azuma as Mirajane did. He did that as a swordsman without a sword. When he was defeated, he was defeated by Azuma's Tower Burst, which appears to be Azuma's best attack out of his own resources. Mirajane went down to some random time bomb Azuma set. Furthermore, calling Gajeel's battle with Pantherlily a "struggle to draw" is rather a stretch. Gajeel handily shattered Pantherlily's sword, then doesn't seem to have bothered to use any powerful techniques afterward. Even so he fought without any real problems until the time came to deal with the whole one floating island about to smash into another.

He won, you say ? He didn't look like the one standing to me. If Erza didn't arrive there, the goat dude could've killed him 10 times over. And even if he won, doesn't change that he was left in a miserable state against two dudes who acknowledged themselves as far inferior to the Seven Kins.
He was still counted in series as having won. That the dog member was not in shape to get up and continue things. As for the two of them being inferior to the Seven Kin, people seem to have drawn the wrong conclusion from that. It doesn't mean that they're really, really weak. Other than Erza, all the members of Fairy Tail that fought the Seven Kin were "far inferior" to the kin other then Meredy. So Yomazu and Kawazu are probably around the same level as Natsu, Gajeel, Gray, Elfman, etc. And Gajeel beat both of them.

People, just because it came in a comedic manner, doesn't mean it's a joke. Everyone was shocked at how easily she defeated him, and then Laxus came in to laugh at how weak Natsu is for losing to Erza like that. Do you think if it was meant as a joke then they would take it that seriously ?
It is a joke. It's a running joke in the series that every time Natsu is running around yelling "Fight me!" at a stronger member he gets one shot. It's utterly meaningless as evidenced by the Festival Arc. Laxus defeats Natsu in one casual blow at the start of the arc. Natsu dusts himself off unharmed a short while later, goes on to fight Laxus again. This time while Laxus is taking it casual, Natsu is an even match for him. When Laxus gets serious and enraged and stops holding back, he still can't put Natsu down for the count with one hit. Even when Laxus pulls out his trump cards and catches a surprised Natsu with a Lightning Dragon's Roar, it's not enough to KO him at all, when the casual blow at the bar had Natsu out for a few minutes. Erza casually defeating Natsu in one hit falls into the same category as that one casual blow Laxus just couldn't replicate when it was time for an actual battle.
 

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Well, most of the seven kin did show an exceptional level of magic, some even more than natsu and co. Zancrow was defeated because natsu reached a higher flame, his natural flames would not have done the job at all and only made zancrow stronger. Meredy was never properly defeated and was even able to hurt jubia very casually. Azuma was at least on the level with mira and erza. Rustyrose was defeated by multiple fairies. Zoldeo vanished because of the irresponsible way he used his magic. He was not defeated per say. He did at a point fight multiple mages thanks to his magic. Ultear fought natsu and then grey and even when a hit was landed against her it was because the ocean got her all high with illusions of the past. Fairy tail did not quite show overwhelming superiority against the seven kin, in most cases they were outnumbered (kain, rustyrose), lost because of random powerups (zancrow), were not defeated in battle per say (zoldeo, meredi), luck (urtear) or just.... whatever happened to azuma. Grimmoire heart was damn strong to begin with, yozu and komazu were not actually weak.

Against mira fried only pushed back mira once and he did not even land a proper hit. If anything pushing her to the water sealed his overwhelming and painfully one sided defeat. Fried was simply not a match here. What he did there is not enough to suggest he would be stronger than anyone in particular.
 

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Erza or Eruza or Elsa?

Hi guys, how to spell Erza's first name?

I know most of us know Erza, but why in wiki, they put "Eruza Sukāretto"? Also, spanish version refer her as "Elsa".
So confusing, I wonder if it is like this:

English: Erza
Japanese: Eruza
Spanish: Elsa

Since manga is from Japan, would it be more accurate to use "Eruza"?
 
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Re: Erza or Eruza or Elsa?

It'll be most correct to used the official romanization that the author used, I think. I think it might be on Erza's tombstone in the chapter that she "died" in Tower of Heaven. I'm not too sure on that, though.
 

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Re: Erza or Eruza or Elsa?

It's Erza. "Eruza Sukāretto" is merely how the Japanese would pronounce Erza Scarlet. Elsa is an alternative translation that's technically valid, but is incorrect in this case as Erza is the official translation.
 

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Well, the issue here is that mashima was going for "Elsa" a common name in spanish but in turn Japanese does not have the luxury of an "L" sound. Eruza is simply they closest you can get to elsa in Japanese.
 

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Well, the issue here is that mashima was going for "Elsa" a common name in spanish but in turn Japanese does not have the luxury of an "L" sound. Eruza is simply they closest you can get to elsa in Japanese.
Uh, no, Erza was named after a character from one of his one shots named Eru. Erza's the official translation, and though he sometimes have trouble with consistence when writing it in English in the manga (Erza, Elza, and Elsa having all appeared at times) the first time it was written in English in the series was Erza.
 

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The tomb scene looks like it has an l rather than an r (its not 100% clear). I don't know about the anime though.
 

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The tomb scene looks like it has an l rather than an r (its not 100% clear). I don't know about the anime though.
Yeah, he's not very good at being consistent with Ls and Rs. Still, Erza's the official translation, and has been used more, even if he's used something else in some prominent locations.
 
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