If Luffy will use weapon in future... What it will be???

[Kaiser Will]

Re: One Piece 597 Discussion / 598 Prediction Thread

I, myself, don't like the possibility, but if he use some, I'm not against it.

But about him using a weapon or not, it was already stated in the begining of the series that Luffy, indeed use a weapon, well it's not actually a weapon but, as Zeref said, Luffy has an inner spear.

So for me, I don't see Luffy using a weapon for now.

 

[damane08]

Re: One Piece 597 Discussion / 598 Prediction Thread

Yeah agree that it should be just a simple staff. Though it not as much of weapon as a sword or a spear or gun it still packs a punch if a person wielding it knows how to use it correctly.

"correctly" is the key word here. No one should expect that Luffy will be able to pick up a spear and be proficient at using it in no time. this is another thing that he will have to train to be able to use... why should he do that?

my questions to every person that think that Luffy should use a weapon (and it makes no sense if he can't use it, that means he will have to train to be able to use it) is; wouldn't it be better for Luffy to constantly train to use haki better? wouldn't training to use a weapon detract from haki training? which training is more important? if you suggest a weapon that he doesn't have to train to use... what is it?

 

[Jadedmariner]

Re: One Piece 597 Discussion / 598 Prediction Thread

"correctly" is the key word here. No one should expect that Luffy will be able to pick up a spear and be proficient at using it in no time. this is another thing that he will have to train to be able to use... why should he do that?

my questions to every person that think that Luffy should use a weapon (and it makes no sense if he can't use it, that means he will have to train to be able to use it) is; wouldn't it be better for Luffy to constantly train to use haki better? wouldn't training to use a weapon detract from haki training? which training is more important? if you suggest a weapon that he doesn't have to train to use... what is it?

The most commonly suggested weapon was knuckle and gauntlet type weapons, which solely enhance his current fighting style. The other is a staff, which he should have some proficiency at using since he used a pipe as one in the flashbacks we saw.

I think the main reason people think he needs a weapon is that most of the high level none logia users tend to at least have weapons. Both Shanks and Whitebeard are prime examples of high level Haki users that still use weapons. It must provide them with some kind of advantage or they wouldn't bother with them.

 

[damane08]

Re: One Piece 597 Discussion / 598 Prediction Thread

The most commonly suggested weapon was knuckle and gauntlet type weapons, which solely enhance his current fighting style. The other is a staff, which he should have some proficiency at using since he used a pipe as one in the flashbacks we saw.

I think the main reason people think he needs a weapon is that most of the high level none logia users tend to at least have weapons. Both Shanks and Whitebeard are prime examples of high level Haki users that still use weapons. It must provide them with some kind of advantage or they wouldn't bother with them.

I don't really think that using a pipe just to hit something (like we saw in the flashback) is the same as being proficient at using a staff. if he uses a staff he'll be going up against other people with weapons and he'll need to be very skilled with it.

Wasn't shanks using a sword when he was just an apprentice? that's the way he fights, it's not a situation where he will learn how to use haki and just ditch his sword. that's the way he fights so he'll continue to fight like that while implementing haki into it (i dont know if WB used to use that weapon before he learned haki so i cant say anything about that one)

 

[elitefox]

Re: One Piece 597 Discussion / 598 Prediction Thread

Would be an option. Maybe just some chains? sometimes used like a whip, other times just wrapped around his hands for brute strenght?
Maybe he will gain a rubber-spear^^ or like in hxh or naruto he can form a blade tip out of haki at his hands

Now if we see his current arsenal


Gomu Gomu no Pistol (ゴムゴムの銃 [ピストル], Rubber Rubber Pistol)
Gomu Gomu no Rocket (ゴムゴムのロケット, Rubber Rubber Rocket)
Gomu Gomu no Bazooka (ゴムゴムのバズーカ, Rubber Rubber Bazooka)
Gomu Gomu no Gatling (ゴムゴムの銃乱打 [ガトリング], Rubber Rubber Gatling)
Gomu Gomu no Bullet (ゴムゴムの銃弾 [ブレット], Rubber Rubber Bullet)
Gomu Gomu no Bow Gun (ゴムゴムのボーガン, Rubber Rubber Bow Gun)
Gomu Gomu no Shotgun (ゴムゴムの銃 [ピストル] ｢散弾 [ショット]｣, Rubber Rubber Shotgun)
Gomu Gomu no Rifle (ゴムゴムの回転弾 [ライフル], Rubber Rubber Rifle)
Gomu Gomu no Cannon (ゴムゴムの攻城砲 [キャノン], Rubber Rubber Cannon)
Gomu Gomu no Muchi (ゴムゴムの鞭, Rubber Rubber Whip)
Gomu Gomu no Tsuchi (ゴムゴムの槌, Rubber Rubber Mallet)
Gomu Gomu no Kama (ゴムゴムの鎌, Rubber Rubber Scythe)
Gomu Gomu no Yari (ゴムゴムの槍, Rubber Rubber Spear)
Gomu Gomu no Ōgama (ゴムゴムの大鎌, Rubber Rubber Big Scythe)
Gomu Gomu no Ono (ゴムゴムの戦斧, Rubber Rubber Axe)
Gomu Gomu no Ōzuchi (ゴムゴムの大槌, Rubber Rubber Big Mallet)


I think this might go from just rubber to the real thing lol
spear, axe, mallet, scythe

lol, I think Luffy could kill someone accidentally

 

[SpecterJ201988]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

Luffy won't get a weapon. He will make his body more of a weapon. I'm talking Rokushiki. Just think about the power up he got from learning soru. Here are my thoughts on the other five.

1) Rankyaku: Kaku already showed that this works well in countering sword attacks. Also, consider what would happen if Luffy twisted his leg when he fired it, like when he uses his rifle attack. Or, the power he could build up if he twisted his torso.
2) Geppou: This is just a theory, but i think that geppou is preformed by backfiring a rankyaku. Thus. turning it into a platform that the user can jump off of. However the user must carefully restrict the power of the technique, so that the impact doesn't break their legs. Luffy's rubber body would be immune to the impact. He could fire it off full power and launch himself with speed and force like he was shot out of a cannon.
3) Kami-e: Luffy can already bend his body more than a regular person can while using kami-e. Making himself paper light, and using COO Haki. He could be almost untouchable.
4) Shigan: PIERCING ATTACKS!!! Combine it with his current attacks and he will be punching people full of holes. Imagine it, "Piercer Jet Gatling", or "Piercer Rifle".
5) Tekkai: From what Jyabura said when he explained his Tekkai Kenpo, it seems that the user can confine the technique to a certain part of his body. So, Luffy could just solidify his hands or feet for his attacks. Gear third works by streching his arm out to the point that it hardens like a car tire. Tekkai would have the same effect without distributing the force out over a large area or gear third's after effects. It would even make him resistant to blade attacks. and even if his opponent is capable of overpowering the technique. A brute force attack would be weakened enough for his rubber body to absorb the rest of the force. He could probubley even withstand Kizaru's kicks.

I'm telling you. He is going to learn this at some point. He learned soru by observing opponents who used it. There are still plenty of Rokushiki users out there. all he needs is a few more battles with them, and he will have them all down.

 

[Captain golddigger]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

what the hell is wrong with you guys...do you not realize how strong luffy's brute strength is? so a punch is not enough, now your giving something to hit people with. you people are so cruel...the guys gonna get haki for christ sakes...he might mess up and kill one of us readers by mistake...(dead serious):

 

[kkck]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

Hi there guys, long time lurker, first time poster!

As Luffy gains more control over his Haki he'll hopefully be able to cause damage to Logia's. However he is still going to need something other than his fist to use on people such as Akainu or Magellen. He would be damaged as well if he started pounding on them even with Haki.

Now i can't see Luffy becoming proficient with a sword and also it would kind of clash with Zoro. He also isn't likely to become good with a weapon in a short period of time, so we may see him training with one at some point. Therefore do you think Luffy needs a weapon, and If so what could it be? I was thinking some sort of fist weapon, but how would it adapt when he used gear 3 etc.

A weapon or something to protect oneself certainly seems to be necessary when fighting someone like Akainu, Aokiji or Magellen.

I think that a weapon would certainly detract from Luffy's fruit abilities and general fighting style. However almost everyone in the New World has a weapon of some sort, perhaps for the very reason of dealing with pesky logias.


P.S I know there is a discussion as to whether Magellen is a logia or paramecia, but for all intents and purposes he is useful in this discussion

If luffy uses armor haki he won't necessarily get hurt if he punches a logia like akaino or aokiji. That is kinda one of the points of armor haki, to protect yourself. WB was in contact with akainu's lava for quite a while and he did not die outright for instance. Marco in his pheonix form directly hit akainu and he was not burned, his leg seemed quite well.

A weapon does not fit luffy in the least IMO. There is no need for him to get one, it'd be awkward.

 

[Deo_df]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

So what happens when luffy fights sum1 of shanks' calibre who imbues' their weapon with haki? Will his armour haki be enuff? Won't he need gauntlets at least to allow him to go head to head. Perhaps more needs to be explained about haki, but from the way I see it, if they are both equal shouldn't it be as if they both weren't using haki? But I guess he could do the kenichi thing and get in close so the weapon user looses their advantage???

 

[kkck]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

I think it'd be like when luffy fought zoro. Obviously luffy won't aim his punches to the enemy's blade lol. IMO luffy is more than capable of defending himself from enemies with weapons provided they are of his caliber and don't vastly outclass him (for instance mihawk, even if luffy was many times stronger than he was he still wouldn't be able to defend himself properly).

 

[beastboy]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

The only weapon I can see Luffy with are chains around is wrists, he would use to increase power by rolling them around is fists, or use them as projectiles...
When not in combat he would be like the new Ichigo, with the Chain around is arm, but instead of a sword, it would be a bracelet!

It would look cool, and would fit the fighting style!

 

[sharingan_kakashi]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

i dont want Luffy to use weapons but i think it would be cool if he carries a Flintlock pistol on his side. I think shanks or some of his cremen uses them. I know Ben Beckman for sure has one.
He can use it to intimidate poeple he doesnt want to fight, it might be a little out of character but it works on certain situations (eg Bellamy the hyena's henchmen)

 

[Vetinari clone]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

The reason all those high level haki users use weapons is because they used them before learning haki. Shanks, for instance, used a sword all his life so I doubt he was hugely skilled in hand to hand, not that he couldn't use it just that he was better with his sword. So why when you learn haki would you stop using what you are already good at fighting with and start using something else? Haki is an enhancing tool, it isn't some kind of all powerful weapon that makes you able to toss aside all your other weapons. Luffy has used his DF as his weapon for most of his life so that is what he will continue to use. Well that's what I think anyway.

Although I wouldn't mind him getting a pistol cause it's just so piraty.

 

[Schabrak]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

Haki is also enhancingthe weapons... so why shouldn't those haki users increase their strength by infusing it with CoA?

 

[Freid]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

The only weapon I can see Luffy with are chains around is wrists, he would use to increase power by rolling them around is fists, or use them as projectiles...
When not in combat he would be like the new Ichigo, with the Chain around is arm, but instead of a sword, it would be a bracelet!

It would look cool, and would fit the fighting style!

Tbh, i think these type of weapons being chain around is fists, a knuckle duster, a gaunlet or any other fist type of weapon things is highly unlikely. Simply because of the fact that these things will have the same effect that luffy's hakki punches will have and would look exactly the same. What is the point of such an upgrade if the difference is that insignificant. Subsequently what we will see from a haki punch will be the same thing we see from a haki punch with a knuckle duster or gaunlet etc. Its only real purpose will be that it makes luffy look cooler really. In addition to that, i cant see luffy getting such a weapon just to make his punches stronger. I can only see that kinda weapon on fodders like axe-hand morgan.

 

[Poneglyph420]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

Ok I know the Anime is not truly Canon but... In the last episode as Luffy is fighting the commanders at MHQ, Luffy uses a sword as a defensive tool against a marine swordsman and to spring into his next attack. I could see using a weapon found on a battlefield as a weapon of opportunity but not becoming a weapon wielding combatant IMO at least..
If we know anything about Luffy it's that his fighting style is adaptive. So I wouldn't say Luffy won't use a weapon ever for any reason.. because that's equally silly IMO.

 

[daman246]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

maybe luffy can wear steal enhanced knucle type weapon instead of a sword since that will completely change his fighting style mroe to zorro

 

[Poneglyph420]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

maybe luffy can wear steal enhanced knucle type weapon instead of a sword since that will completely change his fighting style mroe to zorro

????

I really hope Luffy doesn't start using a primary weapon beyond his own fists and skills.
It would distort his overall style/theme and fighting style completely IMO.

But in a moment of opportunity or as a one shot offensive or defensive use, I could see that.
Depending on the source we have seen Luffy using Pipes, Giant golden balls, and even guns.. Maybe more none I can remember right now. For sure Luffy will be a bare fisted Haki using beast. Even with the great expanse of a 2 year timeskip, IMO I can't see Oda so profoundly altering his Main Character...

 

[vagabond87]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

I think that can help:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57974

 

[Wrath]

Re: Should Luffy get a weapon?

The only way I could see Luffy using a weapon is if he learnt to use Haki to apply his DF ability to objects.