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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE! DAY 5!

Faust: He's been acting really different to past games, where he had either a boring role or went straight for self-destruction as a bomb. Him acting rather active and normal this time might just be because he's finally a role where he can influence the whole the game through consecutive nights. Probably was the first time he had to think at night ("who should I protect, test my ability on?") which, together with a theme he liked, made him a lot more active and yes, way less trollish. He went for lawlett for two consecutive nights, which is a really rare behaviour for a mafia member. Why should you bring up your buddy twice? Of course it could be that this was just his plan, so he's not out of suspicion but I think it's not really likely atm. Him claiming to be a doctor at an early state was way more risky than claiming to be a normal townie too.

Chances of Faust being Mafia: 30%
He went on you in his two nights

---------- Post added at 10:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:58 AM ----------

Sorry, i was answering a call, that's why i didn't answer as fast as i could.



At this point, to get to some conclusions you have to just check some possibilities, and see if they all connect each other. If that's the case, you can pretty much get to final decision even though you skipped some other possibilities.
Honestly lets think of all hypotheses. Between evil and xi0 who do you think would be the target from the Mafia? I don't really buy the theory of mafia having a poisoner, cuz since i am a doctor and faust is also a doctor and imp was confirmed also being a doctor, there's a chance of the remaining 2 docs, that one of us is the insane doctor, which obviously would explain why 2 people died. With this said the theory of existing a mafia poisoner it's almost zero i would say.

Now what really answers all this would be ... who did Mafia targeted? I think the answer is pretty clear. Why would the Mafia go for someone who has revealed his previous role, the way xi0 did? At this point it would be so much better for Mafia if they killed the recruiter. So if Evil died, while i was protecting him, it doesn't clear the suspicious of me being insane, but xi0 dying does. If xi0 died, and if my theory is right and the other doc, which is prolly faust, tried to protect him and ended killing him, it pretty much clears my suspicious as being insane, and at the same time, it's also clear i am not the doctor since i also failed to save evil.
OR faust is no doctor, you protected evil and you killed him. The Mafia killed Xi0. Xi0 and Evil already tell for evryone they are both masons. OR Faust is a naive
 

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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE! DAY 5!

Why do you think that Xi0 died by Faust and not by a Mafia? In this case, you killed Evil and the Mafia killed Xi0...
Answered this on your other question.
The fuck, manga are out ... time to read some Naruto and One Piece :x3

OR faust is no doctor, you protected evil and you killed him. The Mafia killed Xi0. Xi0 and Evil already tell for evryone they are both masons. OR Faust is a naive
Indeed. All my theory was based on the fact that faust is indeed a doc. If he really isn't, there's some chances i am the insane one then. Being the one who killed evil, and by that, it's pretty clear mafia targeted xi0.
 

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Mazino: Was very inactive since the start and said near to nothing. He put out a thought or two but voted without explaining anything. First day he voted for me and didn't give any reasons besides me being mafia in past games. Second day he votes for Haku, just agreeing with Nuno. This is pretty much mafia behaviour: Posting something without adding anything. It's a case similar to Frosty and a usual pattern to people who fear to get attention. Further he stated to be a normal townie but told it in a cryptical way ("It's something I don't like cause I could be anything"). That pretty much told us his role but it's a nice strategy to make it look like "I don't wanna tell but I guess I have to". Just stating you're a normal townie will give you a lot more attention and thus is a rather bad idea for a mafia.
One shouldn't forget that he never voted for lawlett, neither on Day 2 nor on Day 3. I checked it, he posted when everyone was starting to go at lawlett so he definitely was there and could have voted but he didn't, he barely even mentioned lawl. He was the first to vote for Milly too and acted pretty damn fast, without giving it much thought.
All of this makes him the most likely mafia to me.

Chances of Mazino being mafia: 80%
inactive form the staert yes,i wassnt at home in the weekend,and nwo im sick but nvm that
on day one i mostly vote on feeling,is that wrong ? nobody ever done that ? i think everybody does it sometimes
and on the second day i was threatened with a hostkill with pms,evil even wrote me in fb,so with reading everything rlly carefully and stating major facts i would have probably been hostkilled,and nuno sounded logically for me,so that i wouldnt do a random vote i voted for haku
the 4 day voting for lawl imo was futile as he would have died either way and i seatched another culprit,i also told that if lawly turns out mafia,m3j would be mafia most certain and i would votekill him,thats why i didnt hesitate

i´ve been townie the last 2 games,but once a sleeper and once a death miller,ofc i would hate to be one of those two,whats wrong with being honest,i would have liked a role this time as i never had one,i was kinda sad being a plain townie again

as of now,jorpy or faust could be docs yeah,makes sense with the second night kill ...
you are also a suspect to me,claiming bulletproof is as easy as claiming doc if not easier,and going on frosty out of revenge was bs imo,but knowing frosty isnt mafia cuz u are was a possibility for me,thats why u arent cleared of suspicion though
farf i didnt see here,so its haard to say what she might be
mido keeps me alert,cuz he genuisely won the battle royal game claiming to be a townie
haku orgz moa and chaaly are the only ones i dont suspect

but for me this day its either faust or jorped,just waiting for faust to tell his version
 

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inactive form the staert yes,i wassnt at home in the weekend,and nwo im sick but nvm that
on day one i mostly vote on feeling,is that wrong ? nobody ever done that ? i think everybody does it sometimes
and on the second day i was threatened with a hostkill with pms,evil even wrote me in fb,so with reading everything rlly carefully and stating major facts i would have probably been hostkilled,and nuno sounded logically for me,so that i wouldnt do a random vote i voted for haku
the 4 day voting for lawl imo was futile as he would have died either way and i seatched another culprit,i also told that if lawly turns out mafia,m3j would be mafia most certain and i would votekill him,thats why i didnt hesitate

i´ve been townie the last 2 games,but once a sleeper and once a death miller,ofc i would hate to be one of those two,whats wrong with being honest,i would have liked a role this time as i never had one,i was kinda sad being a plain townie again

as of now,jorpy or faust could be docs yeah,makes sense with the second night kill ...
you are also a suspect to me,claiming bulletproof is as easy as claiming doc if not easier,and going on frosty out of revenge was bs imo,but knowing frosty isnt mafia cuz u are was a possibility for me,thats why u arent cleared of suspicion though
farf i didnt see here,so its haard to say what she might be
mido keeps me alert,cuz he genuisely won the battle royal game claiming to be a townie
haku orgz moa and chaaly are the only ones i dont suspect

but for me this day its either faust or jorped,just waiting for faust to tell his version
Being busy and sick can easily be claimed, there's no way to proof it. Even if you are, it doesn't make you less suspicious. Seriously, that's the most used excuse ever. I've been mafia before and despite really being busy sometimes, I know I would have posted more if I would have been a townie instead.

You never really went out of your suspicion against me, which is another indicator that you're mafia (at least to me, because I know my role and I'm pretty sure the mafia knew my role beforehand so it was a good try to get rid of me somehow). Heck, attacking me now is acting the same way Frosty did, accusing me won't help you. Instead it's a good sign of "I've been cornered, let's go on the offensive now!", which is another usual mafia pattern. If you're a townie, you usually tend to defend yourself but you rarely attack the one who attacked you.

I'm neither willing nor do I have the time to spend another day with arguing as there's other stuff I really have to do. To me everything speaks for you being mafia so I will cast my vote now: Votekill Mazino
 

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jorped: I seriously doubt he's mafia, I can't find anything suspicious about besides his inactivity. His story is coherent too. You shouldn't forget that doctor isn't the easiest role to claim - it's the normal townie. So what do we have: Imp as a doctor and Faust claiming he's a doctor too. Jorp saying he's a doc puts him at a huge risk because there's no way to know if there's a possible third doctor out there (in case he would have lied). This would lead to three people stating they are doctors (I don't recall a game which had more than 3 doctors so it's pretty much impossible to have four), putting someone as inactive as him at the worst place, most likely. It would have been a much safer route to go the "I'm a townie with no role" since the start, like Mido or Mazino did.
Don't forget he's a noob and acts on reflex, meaning he's a very passionate person and usually acts without thinking too much (sorry dude :XD) so to me the case of voting for KD cleared him more than making him suspicious.

Chances of jorped being mafia: 10%
This comes from the person who knows me the best here, it might mean nothing for you guys, but it does really mean a lot!
And if i really wasn't a doctor, it would be really risky for me to do so, since we know all the roles of the people who died, which makes the job of someone pretending to be someone else a lot more hard.
And as Niichan mentioned, if i was indeed lying there's are huge chances there would be another doctor.

Regarding kdowns, i really did vote for impulse, and when someone mentioned him being the bomb, i just decided to take the risk cuz i really though he was bluffing. He was teasing everyone about how mafia games are at other places ... doing a lot :coolstorybro ... so i really didn't think of him being the bomb, even though at first i have to admit i didn't really think about it.

But once again if i was a Mafia, why would i kept sticking my vote for him, when people mentioned him being the bomb? Honestly it doesn't make any sense at all ... i could had used that as an excuse to try to save him and go for someone else, and who knows maybe other people who also start believing and kdowns wouldn't end being lynched. Though i have to say it's not likely at all, since Kdowns "playing-style" :derp really does irritate a lot of people.

And .... :-_-
 

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Being busy and sick can easily be claimed, there's no way to proof it. Even if you are, it doesn't make you less suspicious. Seriously, that's the most used excuse ever. I've been mafia before and despite really being busy sometimes, I know I would have posted more if I would have been a townie instead.

You never really went out of your suspicion against me, which is another indicator that you're mafia (at least to me, because I know my role and I'm pretty sure the mafia knew my role beforehand so it was a good try to get rid of me somehow). Heck, attacking me now is acting the same way Frosty did, accusing me won't help you. Instead it's a good sign of "I've been cornered, let's go on the offensive now!", which is another usual mafia pattern. If you're a townie, you usually tend to defend yourself but you rarely attack the one who attacked you.

I'm neither willing nor do I have the time to spend another day with arguing as there's other stuff I really have to do. To me everything speaks for you being mafia so I will cast my vote now: Votekill Mazino
sry i enjoyed life on the weekend(i dont want to start with all inactive ones,there are more than me)...and i never posted that much,look at old threads and u will see,bad thing was just that this started on weekend,so its maybe a lil less,but like i said above nvm...i dont feel like i need to justify having a life

saying u r suspicious,isnt attacking u,just stating facts that u cant prove ur role like i cant proof mine anymore,and i also know that i am townie but not that what u are...
my vote this day goes against faust or jorped,dont twist things the way u want it
 

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So my suspects are : Faust and Mazino (in this order for now)
But well, since first day im telling about Faust, my judgment may not be the wiser because of it.

If Mazino is a townie, means that we have already 5 townies (if we count macaco as one, i think he was the mentee). That is 20% of the ppl as Normal Townie. And Only 3 Mafias? (maybe there is more sleepers dont know)... dunno , there is something wrong here
 

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Being busy and sick can easily be claimed, there's no way to proof it. Even if you are, it doesn't make you less suspicious. Seriously, that's the most used excuse ever. I've been mafia before and despite really being busy sometimes, I know I would have posted more if I would have been a townie instead.

You never really went out of your suspicion against me, which is another indicator that you're mafia (at least to me, because I know my role and I'm pretty sure the mafia knew my role beforehand so it was a good try to get rid of me somehow). Heck, attacking me now is acting the same way Frosty did, accusing me won't help you. Instead it's a good sign of "I've been cornered, let's go on the offensive now!", which is another usual mafia pattern. If you're a townie, you usually tend to defend yourself but you rarely attack the one who attacked you.

I'm neither willing nor do I have the time to spend another day with arguing as there's other stuff I really have to do. To me everything speaks for you being mafia so I will cast my vote now: Votekill Mazino

Mazino/jealous 1x(niichan/soichiro)
 

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How much time left DD?
 

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I know for sure though @Haku :XD

So let's see, Haku confirmed Orgz is a mason now and Moa is out of the question so here are the remaining suspects:

jorped: I seriously doubt he's mafia, I can't find anything suspicious about besides his inactivity. His story is coherent too. You shouldn't forget that doctor isn't the easiest role to claim - it's the normal townie. So what do we have: Imp as a doctor and Faust claiming he's a doctor too. Jorp saying he's a doc puts him at a huge risk because there's no way to know if there's a possible third doctor out there (in case he would have lied). This would lead to three people stating they are doctors (I don't recall a game which had more than 3 doctors so it's pretty much impossible to have four), putting someone as inactive as him at the worst place, most likely. It would have been a much safer route to go the "I'm a townie with no role" since the start, like Mido or Mazino did.
Don't forget he's a noob and acts on reflex, meaning he's a very passionate person and usually acts without thinking too much (sorry dude :XD) so to me the case of voting for KD cleared him more than making him suspicious.

Chances of jorped being mafia: 10%

MidoBan: Has been very active and quite helpful lately. He put out a lot of thoughts and was trying to find out everyone's role, making it visible to everyone. Now this either means he's a mafia, trying to make this more simple for his buddies at night or he's indeed just a helpful townie who can't do anything at night so he tries his best at day. On another note he was the second to vote for lawlett on day two, starting a possible bandwagon. His behaviour could be very well executed mafia plan but at this point I believe the chances of him being townie are higher than being a mafia.

Chances of him being Mafia: 30%

Mazino: Was very inactive since the start and said near to nothing. He put out a thought or two but voted without explaining anything. First day he voted for me and didn't give any reasons besides me being mafia in past games. Second day he votes for Haku, just agreeing with Nuno. This is pretty much mafia behaviour: Posting something without adding anything. It's a case similar to Frosty and a usual pattern to people who fear to get attention. Further he stated to be a normal townie but told it in a cryptical way ("It's something I don't like cause I could be anything"). That pretty much told us his role but it's a nice strategy to make it look like "I don't wanna tell but I guess I have to". Just stating you're a normal townie will give you a lot more attention and thus is a rather bad idea for a mafia.
One shouldn't forget that he never voted for lawlett, neither on Day 2 nor on Day 3. I checked it, he posted when everyone was starting to go at lawlett so he definitely was there and could have voted but he didn't, he barely even mentioned lawl. He was the first to vote for Milly too and acted pretty damn fast, without giving it much thought.
All of this makes him the most likely mafia to me.

Chances of Mazino being mafia: 80%


Charlie: Difficult case, has barely been active and never said much. A case kinda similar to Mazino but a lot more well-disguised because he participated in a few discussions. Lawlett mentioned him being a "shady guy", which might have been a try to make every feel like they're not connected. Saying "Shady guy" isn't much of an accusation so it's unlikely to create a bandwagon on Charlie but people won't forget that he did say something bad about Charlie at one point. It's not a given but definitely a possibility. Next thing to note is that he too didn't vote for lawlett on both days. On Day 2 he made a silly vote for Imp, giving near to no reasons. Don't forget that Imp was a doc and had some little suspicions on him, though not much. Might have been a try to kill Imp without getting much attention. On Day 3 he didn't jump on the "kill lawlett wagon" despite being around, On Day 4 he jumped on the "kill M3J train" though. First was a mafia, second was a townie.
On a sidenote we haven't had a mafia mason in a long, long time so I could see DD actually using this role.
With all this, he's my second main suspect, He could be a very good spy and just tell his remaining mafia buddy (or buddies) who's the recruiter. Just going with the flow and when it's less suspicious kill the leader, sounds just like the way a mafia spy would act.

Chances of Charlie being mafia: 65%


That's it, I'm all for killing Mazino and afterwards most likely Charlie.

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ugh I forgot Faust -_-;
This was a rather well done anlayasis on game-play. I agree with your conclusions regarding Jorped and Mido / Mazi.
Regarding Jorped, I no longer believe he is mafia. He has explained himself rather well already, If he turns out be mafia then he is very good a lying and tricking us.
I'd rather we target the remaining mafia than jump on what I believe is to be an innocent townie.


Now Mido has been rather helpful so I'm having a hard-time figuring him out.
Nii chan already mentioend the possible reasons as for his motives. Because at the same time his anlaysiz could be helping the mafia.

But all of us are over looking someone -else, namely lala.
She could be mafia and Mido can be the sickly.
I originally thought she might be the sickly but could she be just going under the radar as well?

Regarding me and voting -
I suspected faust and imp on the fist day and later chose to vote for imp. Later when others asked how come he has not replied to any questions posed to him he replied too sarcastically. Which I though made him ore suspicious but unfortunately it seemed like a lost cause and I could not prove anything. So I kept trying to analyze the posts from everyone but I was not getting very far. Sometime later m3j was trolling of how he was a deceiver and so forth and how on one was suspecting him - so I jumped on that went to get him. Come to find next that Imp was innocent and a doctor.
 

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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE! DAY 5!

I know for sure though @Haku :XD

So let's see, Haku confirmed Orgz is a mason now and Moa is out of the question so here are the remaining suspects:

jorped: I seriously doubt he's mafia, I can't find anything suspicious about besides his inactivity. His story is coherent too. You shouldn't forget that doctor isn't the easiest role to claim - it's the normal townie. So what do we have: Imp as a doctor and Faust claiming he's a doctor too. Jorp saying he's a doc puts him at a huge risk because there's no way to know if there's a possible third doctor out there (in case he would have lied). This would lead to three people stating they are doctors (I don't recall a game which had more than 3 doctors so it's pretty much impossible to have four), putting someone as inactive as him at the worst place, most likely. It would have been a much safer route to go the "I'm a townie with no role" since the start, like Mido or Mazino did.
Don't forget he's a noob and acts on reflex, meaning he's a very passionate person and usually acts without thinking too much (sorry dude :XD) so to me the case of voting for KD cleared him more than making him suspicious.

Chances of jorped being mafia: 10%
Hm, since you know him well, we might be tempted to take your insight seriously here.
Honestly, since there was already a confirmed Doctor, and a claim in that way, the only reason a Mafia would go claiming the Doctor and cornering himself could be that person is being genuinely dumb (If you are one, sorry jorped :XD). Kdowns thing doesn't really make me reconsider it, but anyway..
I would say the chances are about 30%

MidoBan: Has been very active and quite helpful lately. He put out a lot of thoughts and was trying to find out everyone's role, making it visible to everyone. Now this either means he's a mafia, trying to make this more simple for his buddies at night or he's indeed just a helpful townie who can't do anything at night so he tries his best at day. On another note he was the second to vote for lawlett on day two, starting a possible bandwagon. His behaviour could be very well executed mafia plan but at this point I believe the chances of him being townie are higher than being a mafia.

Chances of him being Mafia: 30%
I'm starting to believe he's a Townie. He was working towards uncovering roles for the people that are coming closer to lynch, encouraging them to reveal roles and explain if they have something to say. Even if it could be all about discovering roles, he seemed to put in some good effort on that.
Chances are like, say 20% at the moment.

Mazino: Was very inactive since the start and said near to nothing. He put out a thought or two but voted without explaining anything. First day he voted for me and didn't give any reasons besides me being mafia in past games. Second day he votes for Haku, just agreeing with Nuno. This is pretty much mafia behaviour: Posting something without adding anything. It's a case similar to Frosty and a usual pattern to people who fear to get attention. Further he stated to be a normal townie but told it in a cryptical way ("It's something I don't like cause I could be anything"). That pretty much told us his role but it's a nice strategy to make it look like "I don't wanna tell but I guess I have to". Just stating you're a normal townie will give you a lot more attention and thus is a rather bad idea for a mafia.
One shouldn't forget that he never voted for lawlett, neither on Day 2 nor on Day 3. I checked it, he posted when everyone was starting to go at lawlett so he definitely was there and could have voted but he didn't, he barely even mentioned lawl. He was the first to vote for Milly too and acted pretty damn fast, without giving it much thought.
All of this makes him the most likely mafia to me.

Chances of Mazino being mafia: 80%
I'm a bit torn now. I originally wasn't really interested in investigating him this round, but you have some solid points here. He was one of the ones that was suspecting my Mason status (or the Mason group as a whole), but apparently backed down later on, maybe because Charlie announced his role. This made me think he had genuine concerns, but that may not be the case and it could be something schemed spontaneously.
And then the Milly case bothers me more than Lawl. I wasn't really into the idea to hang him immediately, but I immediately got the feeling people would get onto the bandwagon rather quick and was rather forced into voting. Since that's the only Townie lynch we had so far, he becomes a suspect out of that reason.
Chances are around 65%

Charlie: Difficult case, has barely been active and never said much. A case kinda similar to Mazino but a lot more well-disguised because he participated in a few discussions. Lawlett mentioned him being a "shady guy", which might have been a try to make every feel like they're not connected. Saying "Shady guy" isn't much of an accusation so it's unlikely to create a bandwagon on Charlie but people won't forget that he did say something bad about Charlie at one point. It's not a given but definitely a possibility. Next thing to note is that he too didn't vote for lawlett on both days. On Day 2 he made a silly vote for Imp, giving near to no reasons. Don't forget that Imp was a doc and had some little suspicions on him, though not much. Might have been a try to kill Imp without getting much attention. On Day 3 he didn't jump on the "kill lawlett wagon" despite being around, On Day 4 he jumped on the "kill M3J train" though. First was a mafia, second was a townie.
On a sidenote we haven't had a mafia mason in a long, long time so I could see DD actually using this role.
With all this, he's my second main suspect, He could be a very good spy and just tell his remaining mafia buddy (or buddies) who's the recruiter. Just going with the flow and when it's less suspicious kill the leader, sounds just like the way a mafia spy would act.

Chances of Charlie being mafia: 65%
Well, let's something more. Charlie was suspecting Imp previously, and same goes for Nuno. He wasn't really into the idea that we were going to recruit Nuno, Freeman, and we woke up next morning to see Nuno getting killed. Either it was a huge coincidence or there is a Mafia detective on the other side, who saw through all this and Charlie was aware we were going for the Freeman unknowingly. He then informed his side and they immediately went for Nuno. This is all too suspicious. Nuno was active, but he wasn't as active as Gary, Evil or me. Why would they go for him out of nowhere without any great clue they got?
That raised a question mark for me. He then raised his hand as a Mason when he was under no apparent threat to be even receiving a vote yesterday, and we knew, by last night, that either Charlie or Evil wouldn't make it to this day, because Mafia would go for one of the candidates to be the recruiter.
He is my suspect, but I have concerns about who to go with. 70% would be my probability evaluation.

Faust: He's been acting really different to past games, where he had either a boring role or went straight for self-destruction as a bomb. Him acting rather active and normal this time might just be because he's finally a role where he can influence the whole the game through consecutive nights. Probably was the first time he had to think at night ("who should I protect, test my ability on?") which, together with a theme he liked, made him a lot more active and yes, way less trollish. He went for lawlett for two consecutive nights, which is a really rare behaviour for a mafia member. Why should you bring up your buddy twice? Of course it could be that this was just his plan, so he's not out of suspicion but I think it's not really likely atm. Him claiming to be a doctor at an early state was way more risky than claiming to be a normal townie too.

Chances of Faust being Mafia: 30%
He was fast out of the blocks, then slowed down a bit, perhaps bothered by the concerns surrounding his activity. He apparently suspected you and gambled on himself being insane to bring you down, going two consecutive nights for you. As I analyzed, it's a negligibly small gain in a risky gamble with all things considered, but his apparent character he portrayed in the game fits that move. I don't think he's lying.
Chances are about 20%

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That's it for now. I'm holding my vote back, since me and Charlie accidentally voted once early in the day (believing Evil died because Org was a Mafia, which wasn't the case).
 

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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE! DAY 5!

@Haku, what you think about Farfalla? Honestly it's quite weird no one has been mentioning her, since the only thing we have about her is the fact that she proclaims she is a townie with a role other people don't like.
 

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We are believing she's the reason why you won't be able to vote this round.
Enough clues? :XD
 

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We are believing she's the reason why you won't be able to vote this round.
Enough clues? :XD
Hmm, seems likely to be the case, though i would like to know why you think that, and why it isn't likely that she is Mafia.
I mean if you haven't brought her up, it means you are really safe about her role. What really gave you that idea? Honestly there's nothing i could guide myself on everything that has happened, to reduce everything she has done to that simple option.
Seems weird to me that you are doing so.
 

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No one is claiming the role of Sickly Townie, even though many have said they consider Farfalla pretty much confirmed for that role. In fact, out of the ones without a confirmed role, these are what they claim they have:

jorped: Doctor
Faust: Doctor
MidoBan: Regular Townie
Mazino: Regular Townie
nii-chan: Bulletproof

There is a sickly Townie. Unless the "real" Sickly Townie is claiming to have another Townie role for some reason, Farfalla is Sickly.
 

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It was simple reasoning. Could always be wrong, though.
Farfalla brought up Gary's name when he was flying pretty much under the radar. She kind of suspected him and I don't remember anyone else that was active enough, yet still had a few words on him. Then, Gary was targeted back-to-back nights. This could be her doing. Moreover, she admitted to having a night role, which isn't inconsistent.
On top of that, we revealed Gary was a Mason yesterday and confirmed it publicly. Then, this time, she didn't go for Gary, because it was you who was targeted by the sickly Townie and your name was around in the last few phases as a candidate.
 

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Yeah... What he said also. ^

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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE! DAY 5!

No one is claiming the role of Sickly Townie, even though many have said they consider Farfalla pretty much confirmed for that role. In fact, out of the ones without a confirmed role, these are what they claim they have:

jorped: Doctor
Faust: Doctor
MidoBan: Regular Townie
Mazino: Regular Townie
nii-chan: Bulletproof

There is a sickly Townie. Unless the "real" Sickly Townie is claiming to have another Townie role for some reason, Farfalla is Sickly.
For me
jorped: Doctor
Faust: Doctor - suspect

MidoBan: Regular Townie - suspect

Mazino: Regular Townie - suspect

nii-chan: Bulletproof

Farfalla: I'm still leaning towards her being the sickly though I do wonder if she has been going under radar... hm... but with Jorped being unable to vote this doesn't seem likely...
Moa: = N/A

The suspects are my current best guess for mafia.
Niichan already voted for Mazino I believe - but I'm going to hold back before voting.
As haku said, I already lost one vote due to not hearing that Orgz was a successful recruit to Masons. Right now I'm leaning to vote against faust. I think he's been lying about his role.
 

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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE! DAY 5!

I have to log off now, and won't be able to post in about... 12 hours or so.

That said, here’s a part of my notes I wrote to myself earlier (along with the ones on Faust, jorped and the others) except in English and a bit more elaborate:

"Charlie is highly suspicious in my eyes because of the way he’s been playing his Mason role. The timing with which he revealed himself couldn’t have been worse. I had pretty much made up my mind about the Mason group being real before that, but when I read that I started to have doubts again. And I can’t help but think this is exactly what he wanted, to feed the idea that the ”Masons” were actually Mafia so that Townies would lynch one of them for proof. But not only was the timing for revealing he’s a Mason total crap, right after that he told everyone Evil was the Recruiter by saying he has no special powers. This just amplifies what I said earlier. "

This, along with Haku and nii-chan's brilliant insight, is enough to make him my #1 suspect. I didn't include this in my posts, obviously, because I wanted to see what he himself had to say if he didn't have too much pressure on him. Therefore, I put the most suspicion on Faust, whom Charlie has expressed suspicion of since the very beginning. I would have wanted to see what this would develop into if I had more time to wait, but I really need to sign off.

(And as a side-note , there's the fact that he started out as a Mason, while the role description for Recruiting Mason says ”The Recruiting Mason starts out by himself” which could be a clue or could just be outdated role descriptions. This is not what I base my vote on, anyways.)

As if I even need to say it, vote kill Charlie.
 
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