Games Mafia Game 87 - Baccano! - END GAME

[desin24]

Say gajeel is townie...farfalla says gajeel did nothing night 2. That means he only tagged grysun. Mafia kills gajeel he forced to kill grysun. Mafia won.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 21, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 21, 2020 ---

Oh banshee can choose not to kill. Mafia didnt win yet.

It's not a forced kill. The banshee can choose whether they kill any of their tagged ones or not.

 

[GrySun]

@GrySun We have 3 people willing to go for lambu, me, sakura and raven

What your opinion on him vs one of the hoes, I do understand that if one of them is an escort it is bad for both you and farf but especially you tonight, they can block you or block elixir or block BG and kill you tonight...

1 - Do you think that both @Belserion and @digitaldude should pass the elixir to you, so that if one is blocked you still get it? Drinking the elixir has priority 0 so you should be fine after you get it.

2 - Do you think that both (@gnut @Organizized) BGs should target you tonight in case one of them get blocked by the escort?

3 - If people agree to protect you tonight until you drink it, is it worth trying to lynch a hoe claim in the hope it is an escort? over other players like Lambu.

What do you think of Lambu D4 jesus claim is it the right way to use claim jesus role? With my little experience I feel like as jesus you can try to beat a mafia kill, otherwise reveal early enough that if you get lynched you will comeback in time, I feel like Lambu waited D4 exactly to make us hesitate.

Idk about lambu, desin‘s behavior is odd to me. Bel can give me her elixir even if xnut is lynched so that‘s another option.

1 They can if they want, I assume the one that loses cointoss gets to keep their elixir so it's not a waste? Giving it to the BGs can also be a good idea.

2 Problem is that mafia can just easily block me and there won't be any reason for them to go to such lengths to kill me, but if they're really that scared of Necromancer then stacking all protection on me could be worthwhile. Possible outcome is that they just kill someone else and block me, however after this next night BGs and last elixirs can go to others and I'll be safe, so yes to both.

3 Getting rid of Escort is always worth it imo even with all these plans.

Not quite how I would play Jesus at all no, though I hesitate because of how openly he claimed Super Mason early as it looks pretty town.

 

[digitaldude]

Imagine if raven and hll actually made elixr...

 

[Raven]

Time to connect the dots here and expose the scums.

1- It started with holt dying which lead to xnut's resolve getting weak and pretty much confirmed himself as Mafia/Lover by his actions not words so bel found him as Third candidate and confirmed.
2- Panda death resulted in Hardy scum exposal.
3- Farf was like trying defend Hardy as much as she could in the range of being not under the scope of doubt, So eventually she threw him under the bus. First she voted against xnut as hope of him getting lynched, then voted against Hardy to get away from doubt. Same pattern of playing as game 85 when she was a mafia

I'm not confident Hardy is scum, I don't think Pandu's death makes that an absolute thing. But Holt has the xnut thing on his case as well... Can't think of any "green" reason why xnut would pull that, as town or scum.

And I'll be the evil ego cunt that doesn't believe in Hardy and Gry anymore after that stunt from y'day. If town, it was of their interest, specially Hardy's. Only Orgz mentioned an Escort lying about their real target.
Votekill Poopie for Pandaria.

Keep in mind that she switched sides and i can confirm it's the same playing pattern

Votekill Xavier for now. He could still be mafia with Santa, the 5 deaths gifts sounds funny but a wild guess. They'd need a killer among them in case mafia was wiped or in need of control, otherwise it would be extremely hard for the Lovers to win the game. So imo the one that got sub'd in the classic mafia-townie duo was the townie, by santa, maintaining basic Lover funcionality, and hence Xavier is mafia.

4- Hardy wanting to paint me as Lover and Mafia mason out of butthurtness because I didn't buy his half assed claim which was freeman so he started being non sense, He didn't read Bel post confirming herself as the third candidate and starting throwing any words here and there about me. Also notice that desin is liking his posts as kinda of supportive thiny despite that it doesn't make sense speically that lover claim, check #2350, I screenshoted desin likes in case he removed it. whatever, he forgot that threesome doesnt know who the lovers are.

Actually, Raven fits the bill as a stubborn person and she has been extremely adamant tagging people to change their votes.
Mafia Mason Threesome sounds 100% like something wild hosts would shove to be wild.

Wouldn't be shocking if she didn't know how mason recruited worked and tried to get her lover in there.

5- Desin trying to defend Hardy and getting butthurt over the fact that i lead a train against Hardy. His ego and insecurance float on surface and it created a really bad smell. First he wanted to make @Hll think that i'm manipulating him, Then wanted to paint me as a Mafia Mason.

Not happy with the Hardy lynch since I believe that the xnut lynch would bring more benefits in the long run but it all depends on which roles they have. NGL if Hardy appears as freeman, Raven's campaign will hint very hard at mafia mason that just manipulates poor Hll for her own benefits.

6-Lambu, using circular reasoning fallacy, without any shame claiming jesus on D4, His reason to support his claim that Hardy freeman claim was very believeable to him because he is a jesus. Assuming that we know his true intention and he build a claim out of it, Not so smart play and insulting to everyone intelligence. Also don't forget that he wanted to paint me as a Mafia mason over and over and over, despite that i have very good reasoning against it but for him it's nothing because that what he wants to paint me as a mafia mason.
- He also wonder why i can't consider Hll as mafia mason and for him it's weird. Wants Masons to doubt eachother

Do you think I dont know? Jesus SM in a factory jesus game design is pretty insane which is what made a Freeman's presence a no brainer from my pov.

Why? Because you are the mole?
Thanks for presenting the possibility, I thought you wouldn't have killed Hardy like that if you were with them but yeah, maybe you pulled a demon or something.

I wonder if you even considered for a second Hll being a mole

7- Lambu siding with farf and saying she is 90% townies when he has no solid to talk.

Farf is 90% town after heavy discussion with Hardy in D1 + she sentenced him yesterday when she had no need to do so. Blocking the claimed spy would not have been a town play.

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So the bottom line here is, Desin, Hardy, Lambu, Wanted to make me the Mafia Mason, No matter what how silly their accusation were, They also Want the Masons to doubt eachother because they clearly know the Mafia mason isn't recruited yet

@Raven can you tell the recruiter to please get me, my brain is the size of a pea but it would prove useful in your pad.

The Mafia mason here begging to get recruited on D1, knowing mafia won't target him.

 

[GrySun]

Like, how can I praise desin as best prostitute player if he turns around and skips using the role 2 times, then 3rd time uses it on a Prostitute/Escort which is a cointoss at best? Completely uncharacteristic.

Just wish less people were fishy. Gajeel in somewhat of a conflict with Farf, Vandred not doing anything to be trustworthy, neither Hll, sakura a BP that didn't get the mechanic for 2 nights(but got it right early in SnK game), Lambu with Jesus...

 

[Farfalla]

My issue with Gaj is also that Hardy seemed to look away from my results y'day, and even with Orgz saying it could have been due to a block, Gaj's course of action is to throw shade at me. I don't even know why wouldn't he tag me at night since I challenged him and he suspects me. And finally the PM episode makes me wonder if I was rly blocked on N2.

With DD's math tho, those should only be debates and we should get the safest mafia lynch we can find....

 

[xnut]

which is xnut....? lol

 

[GrySun]

which is xnut....? lol

Claim a role already xnut it ain't that hard

 

[xnut]

says you bruh what are these thought patterns?

 

[desin24]

I'm here and I should have some time to stick around, didn't expect the day to be almost over already though. Before I went to sleep yesterday I managed to catch up somewhat with what was said D3, haven't caught up with today yet but some big developments to address for sure.

can you tell us your target for last night?


So the way I see it we have Vandred vs Gnut claims with Vandred blocking gnut but gnut's action went through and he learned BG. If Vandred is legit and got blocked then we also have the problem of Gajeel targeting Lambu and Lala getting no result which means that either her or gajeel got blocked/someone lied. So two possible blocks on N2.

Yesterday Lala got no result implying that she might have gotten blocked.

Like, how can I praise desin as best prostitute player if he turns around and skips using the role 2 times, then 3rd time uses it on a Prostitute/Escort which is a cointoss at best? Completely uncharacteristic.

Just wish less people were fishy. Gajeel in somewhat of a conflict with Farf, Vandred not doing anything to be trustworthy, neither Hll, sakura a BP that didn't get the mechanic for 2 nights(but got it right early in SnK game), Lambu with Jesus...

I already said on D2 that I was sick and didn't follow the game. Instead of randomly blocking people I decided to brew the juice and reveal my role once I am "immortal" and until then I can play a valuable role once we have more clues to go by and I can pick better targets. Vandred's claim and weird targeting of gnut made me reconsider that it is better to come out in the open earlier to contest Vandred's claim. It's not that difficult, sorry if it doesn't fit your image of my "award winning townie prostitute" style. Bad luck and bad timing can be a bitch, not much more to it.

 

[xnut]

you been down my neck about this since day one literally and have YET to claim

 

[Raven]

Time to connect the dots here and expose the scums.

1- It started with holt dying which lead to xnut's resolve getting weak and pretty much confirmed himself as Mafia/Lover by his actions not words so bel found him as Third candidate and confirmed.
2- Panda death resulted in Hardy scum exposal.
3- Farf was like trying defend Hardy as much as she could in the range of being not under the scope of doubt, So eventually she threw him under the bus. First she voted against xnut as hope of him getting lynched, then voted against Hardy to get away from doubt. Same pattern of playing as game 85 when she was a mafia


Keep in mind that she switched sides and i can confirm it's the same playing pattern

4- Hardy wanting to paint me as Lover and Mafia mason out of butthurtness because I didn't buy his half assed claim which was freeman so he started being non sense, He didn't read Bel post confirming herself as the third candidate and starting throwing any words here and there about me. Also notice that desin is liking his posts as kinda of supportive thiny despite that it doesn't make sense speically that lover claim, check #2350, I screenshoted desin likes in case he removed it. whatever, he forgot that threesome doesnt know who the lovers are.


5- Desin trying to defend Hardy and getting butthurt over the fact that i lead a train against Hardy. His ego and insecurance float on surface and it created a really bad smell. First he wanted to make @Hll think that i'm manipulating him, Then wanted to paint me as a Mafia Mason.

6-Lambu, using circular reasoning fallacy, without any shame claiming jesus on D4, His reason to support his claim that Hardy freeman claim was very believeable to him because he is a jesus. Assuming that we know his true intention and he build a claim out of it, Not so smart play and insulting to everyone intelligence. Also don't forget that he wanted to paint me as a Mafia mason over and over and over, despite that i have very good reasoning against it but for him it's nothing because that what he wants to paint me as a mafia mason.
- He also wonder why i can't consider Hll as mafia mason and for him it's weird. Wants Masons to doubt eachother



7- Lambu siding with farf and saying she is 90% townies when he has no solid to talk.


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So the bottom line here is, Desin, Hardy, Lambu, Wanted to make me the Mafia Mason, No matter what how silly their accusation were, They also Want the Masons to doubt eachother because they clearly know the Mafia mason isn't recruited yet

The Mafia mason here begging to get recruited on D1, knowing mafia won't target him.

@Hll Read this, It will make things easier. promise!

 

[Farfalla]

you been down my neck about this since day one literally and have YET to claim

Everybody claimed already except for you.

 

[digitaldude]

I have the craziest plan @GrySun panda pirate steal my role and I drink the elixr tonight.

 

[Shad]

you been down my neck about this since day one literally and have YET to claim

Everybody claimed bro.

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I'm more and more inclined to believe van is town over desin

 

[xnut]

because I have been labeled as lover and mafia since day 1, I thought it made sense to not say any words that would incriminate me anymore then these bold assumptions already placed on my name.

 

[GrySun]

I have the craziest plan @GrySun panda pirate steal my role and I drink the elixr tonight.

That cool but it removes Necromancer. As in, we won't be getting to use that Doctor, Mortician etc. Is that what we want?

+ you probably don't need confirmation that Pirating would give, though the passing on of the vest would be interesting.

 

[Raven]

I'm more and more inclined to believe van is town over desin

Pretty obvious at this point.

 

[GrySun]

because I have been labeled as lover and mafia since day 1, I thought it made sense to not say any words that would incriminate me anymore then these bold assumptions already placed on my name.

That's not how this game works tho. "Oh no I am suspected, better stop playing so I don't add more suspicion!". Ideally you want to prove yourself to others, but I guess that's kinda hard.

 

[xnut]

"proving" myself by "claiming" riiiighttttt