Games Mafia Game 87 - Baccano! - END GAME

[Baka Taichou]

Like you were playing the part far too much to the point it's in detriment to you and town.

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It's weird, according to Farf he didn't do an action on Night 2. As Mafia Detective. Did they push him under the bus with a Farfalla Spy claim? No clue what else it could be, but I'd hope mafia Farf would not dare to involve PMs in her claims so I don't believe this theory.

Maybe they also used Gajeel for RT summoning N2?

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Not like you can drink it the same second you get it, what's your point? Is this you accidentally admitting you've had the elixir for longer, but now are pretending you were given it last night?

Maybe sakura did indeed do sacrifice for elixir.

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Doubt it, he was talking to his team so the you in the sentence would be adressed to his team.

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What kind of argument is that? Detective can't die investigating mafia haha.

sakura, do you or do you not see the point I did with Holt, that he also pulled the same "I wouldn't have asked for recruitment had I not been town!" thing but he wasn't town.

I can.t convince you that I just teceive it unless whoevwr gave it to me comes out and says it.
I know you can.t drink it the same night, you read my sentence wrong. I said don.t worry i didn.t drink it yet in the sense of couldn.t have. So you won.t get 2 triggers on my rile, just one. And then I said unless you don.t lynch me today, cuz then I might just drink it tonight and wait to come back. Just to die again xD.
So whoever gave it to me either didn t rly think of what they.re doing, or they.re mafia playing on my trigger happy personallity hoping I.d do them a favor of 4 consecutive nights. No idea, but it.s the only reason I can understand for nobody claiming to have given it to me yet.

I was being sarcastic omg, with the detective question ,you told me that I know fully well what happened to whoever recruited hold and died. And I told you, since I asked you to INVESTIGATE ME. " but you don.t die from investigative roles now do you"

Ah, well holt did it on purpose to kill a townie I guess. But ok I see your point.

As for the part about gaj, well, that.s open for interpretation .

Ah and you asked my mafias,
Hll
You
Bels
Farf
Raven

Iz who I sus, but I.d like to doubt raven is part of it.

 

[GrySun]

I can.t convince you that I just teceive it unless whoevwr gave it to me comes out and says it.
I know you can.t drink it the same night, you read my sentence wrong. I said don.t worry i didn.t drink it yet in the sense of couldn.t have. So you won.t get 2 triggers on my rile, just one. And then I said unless you don.t lynch me today, cuz then I might just drink it tonight and wait to come back. Just to die again xD.
So whoever gave it to me either didn t rly think of what they.re doing, or they.re mafia playing on my trigger happy personallity hoping I.d do them a favor of 4 consecutive nights. No idea, but it.s the only reason I can understand for nobody claiming to have given it to me yet.

I was being sarcastic omg, with the detective question ,you told me that I know fully well what happened to whoever recruited hold and died. And I told you, since I asked you to INVESTIGATE ME. " but you don.t die from investigative roles now do you"

Ah, well holt did it on purpose to kill a townie I guess. But ok I see your point.

As for the part about gaj, well, that.s open for interpretation .

Ah and you asked my mafias,
Hll
You
Bels
Farf
Raven

Iz who I sus, but I.d like to doubt raven is part of it.

How can I be mafia? And Raven?

 

[Baka Taichou]

As far as Ik, the declared actions are:
- DD gave you an elixir
- Bel gave Orgz an elixir
- Hll was brewing an elixir, started on N2
- Raven was brewing an elixir, started on N1 but skipped N3 and 4 (cause fought with the host and then killed Lambu)
One of those masons killed Lambu with RT.
So maybe Hll lied about when he started it and had finished his elixir alrdy and gave it to Raven the night before (when you and Orgz got one as well), then Raven drank it the night she got killed. Alternatively (cause you can't pass and drink one in the same night, right?), Raven finished hers and passed it to Sakura now - but then I can't fit how Raven got the one she took. Another thing could be that Raven only lied about who killed Lambu - it was Hll instead, cause he skipped the N1 to prepare his elixir due to unknown reasons and meanwhile Raven finished hers and took it (or she could have just lied about her fight with Daws and finished it before as well). Maybe that's what she meant about making Lambu look bad - that she was tricking Hll by finishing and taking her elixir behind his back.
We know for sure someone had enough time to prep an elixir so Raven could take it, and we don't know if Sakura is lying about hers. So, with all the lies, it's hard to pin a scum there, why I believe that by elimination both Hll and Sakura fit.

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This, Gry ^ looks like a possible lie to get her killed in Van's place.

It.s called sarcasm either way I.m not doing shit tonight except pass or drink the elixir myself. So there you have it.

 

[GrySun]

Btw what kind of gift did Holt give on N1 I wonder..

 

[gnut]

Like you were playing the part far too much to the point it's in detriment to you and town.

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It's weird, according to Farf he didn't do an action on Night 2. As Mafia Detective. Did they push him under the bus with a Farfalla Spy claim? No clue what else it could be, but I'd hope mafia Farf would not dare to involve PMs in her claims so I don't believe this theory.

Maybe they also used Gajeel for RT summoning N2?

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Not like you can drink it the same second you get it, what's your point? Is this you accidentally admitting you've had the elixir for longer, but now are pretending you were given it last night?

Maybe sakura did indeed do sacrifice for elixir.

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Doubt it, he was talking to his team so the you in the sentence would be adressed to his team.

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What kind of argument is that? Detective can't die investigating mafia haha.

sakura, do you or do you not see the point I did with Holt, that he also pulled the same "I wouldn't have asked for recruitment had I not been town!" thing but he wasn't town.

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Why not kill? I can protect you with Demon's Doctor so unless they block you or me it should succeed.

Couple things Im not comfortable with her saying...
She openly ask if mafia got an elixir than says she got one.
Now she wants to pass it to a dead Raven with no affiliation after death.
Then thinking about how gaj died mafia detective...reminds me of the many times Raven kept saying she had reasons to not want xnut lynched(like she knew he was town)
Yes her death and this whole situation could be some elaborate hoax.

 

[Farfalla]

It's weird, according to Farf he didn't do an action on Night 2. As Mafia Detective. Did they push him under the bus with a Farfalla Spy claim? No clue what else it could be, but I'd hope mafia Farf would not dare to involve PMs in her claims so I don't believe this theory.

Maybe they also used Gajeel for RT summoning N2?

Yeah, as I wrote to Van (and tried to bait wtv I could get as a reply from him today), after thinking about it I guess Gaj was used to summon the RT kill on N2. Maybe he was indeed used on N1 to check on Misho.

 

[GrySun]

Couple things Im not comfortable with her saying...
She openly ask if mafia got an elixir than says she got one.
Now she wants to pass it to a dead Raven with no affiliation after death.
Then thinking about how gaj died mafia detective...reminds me of the many times Raven kept saying she had reasons to not want xnut lynched(like she knew he was town)
Yes her death and this whole situation could be some elaborate hoax.

Oh right, she just listed Raven in her mafia suspects but cast RT protect on Raven..

Either all stars aligned for all of this to magically add up or she's lying.

Still Vand could be the better lynch, idk.

 

[gnut]

Oh right, she just listed Raven in her mafia suspects but cast RT protect on Raven..

Either all stars aligned for all of this to magically add up or she's lying.

Still Vand could be the better lynch, idk.

Always down to kill Van

 

[GrySun]

Like Vand said he'd do what little he still can do with prostitute til he dies, then he blocks gnut to prevent RT kill on him... Like what. I thought his words mean he'll try to block a scum.

So they didn't block either me or Farf because they didn't wanna let Vand's life hang on a cointoss.

 

[gnut]

Like Vand said he'd do what little he still can do with prostitute til he dies, then he blocks gnut to prevent RT kill on him... Like what. I thought his words mean he'll try to block a scum.

So they didn't block either me or Farf because they didn't wanna let Vand's life hang on a cointoss.

Van is escort...simple

Sakura maybe bomb indeed

 

[GrySun]

Vand feels like he's being ridiculously shameless so I'd lock him perhaps.

But where do we go from there? Do we have Lambu + gnut do RT kill on same person? Who would that be? Hll? sakura?

 

[Farfalla]

But why do you think they killed Raven of all people? Even if they didn't know she had elixir, shouldn't they be getting rid of gnut who had neither elixir nor anything? Orgz and me are safe, dd can't be killed so only you and gnut made sense as people to kill(and sakura if she's freeman) yet they go for Raven.

Idk, maybe playing safe cause Orgz never declared who he'd protect and he had an elixir. So far, Orgz and Greg picked different targets daily and never overlap'd, so they've been covering town efficiently. And with that, Raven would have tricked mafia efficiently as well.

 

[gnut]

Idk, maybe playing safe cause Orgz never declared who he'd protect and he had an elixir. So far, Orgz and Greg picked different targets daily and never overlap'd, so they've been covering town efficiently. And with that, Raven would have tricked mafia efficiently as well.

Me and him protected you nite 3 after bel said not to

 

[Farfalla]

What extent of planning leads to that? Is there a Vanplan in motion that they would use their mafia kill on their own mafia mason(Raven)? Or is that far too crazy?

That's what I suspected at first today as well, but on a second thought, all things considered with how Raven was relevant to lynch Hardy and voiced against lynching xnut, I guess Hll as mafia makes more sense. I think Hll actually voted xnut first, and changed to Hardy only after she requested it as well - and argued against it before doing so.

 

[GrySun]

That's what I suspected at first today as well, but on a second thought, all things considered with how Raven was relevant to lynch Hardy and voiced against lynching xnut, I guess Hll as mafia makes more sense. I think Hll actually voted xnut first, and changed to Hardy only after she requested it as well - and argued against it before doing so.

Wouldn‘t Hll know Raven did elixir? Or did she lie even to him? She said she trusted him.

 

[gnut]

That's what I suspected at first today as well, but on a second thought, all things considered with how Raven was relevant to lynch Hardy and voiced against lynching xnut, I guess Hll as mafia makes more sense. I think Hll actually voted xnut first, and changed to Hardy only after she requested it as well - and argued against it before doing so.

It still puzzles me why Raven was so adamant that my son shouldn't be lynched.

Only makes sense to me that she knew thru gaj...could her affiliation have changed since start of game?

 

[Farfalla]

Like Vand said he'd do what little he still can do with prostitute til he dies, then he blocks gnut to prevent RT kill on him... Like what. I thought his words mean he'll try to block a scum.

So they didn't block either me or Farf because they didn't wanna let Vand's life hang on a cointoss.

IDK if I got blocked, I got a no results again.

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Wouldn‘t Hll know Raven did elixir? Or did she lie even to him? She said she trusted him.

I assume they have to PM things separatedly? Otherwise that would super sabotage the masons with a possible mafia mason among them.
Wait I got a meeting now. She said she wanted to let him play cause he's new, I'll pick that up later. Imo she was managing him.

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It still puzzles me why Raven was so adamant that my son shouldn't be lynched.

Only makes sense to me that she knew thru gaj...could her affiliation have changed since start of game?

Fuck, starting mason traitor? XD whew

 

[gnut]

IDK if I got blocked, I got a no results again.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 23, 2020 ---

I assume they have to PM things separatedly? Otherwise that would super sabotage the masons with a possible mafia mason among them.
Wait I got a meeting now. She said she wanted to let him play cause he's new, I'll pick that up later. Imo she was managing him.

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Fuck, starting mason traitor? XD whew

How do you explain at the time her ignoring an obvious mafia(xnut now we know was not)....puzzling indeed

 

[GrySun]

IDK if I got blocked, I got a no results again.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 23, 2020 ---

I assume they have to PM things separatedly? Otherwise that would super sabotage the masons with a possible mafia mason among them.
Wait I got a meeting now. She said she wanted to let him play cause he's new, I'll pick that up later. Imo she was managing him.

I‘d assume you weren’t blocked, but I have no idea who is doing their kills. Sakura? We blocked her with RT some nights ago. Hll? He should’ve shown targetting Raven to you. Vand? He was blocked by desin.

So either they keep shuffling their killer perfectly or we have a snake somehow among the trusted people, crazy.

 

[Baka Taichou]

Oh right, she just listed Raven in her mafia suspects but cast RT protect on Raven..

Either all stars aligned for all of this to magically add up or she's lying.

Still Vand could be the better lynch, idk.

Oh how about read my damn coments from the start of the day mentioning in brachets why raven could be mafia and saying I doubt it because I choose to believe the mafia plan being too far fetched. Hence why i listed her there because I can.t be completely aure about her but I choose to believe and it.s why i protected her before.
But yes ♡ I.m the big mafia team all by myself and i have such an elaborate plan to cause chaos between you all.