Changing my answer. Hades rd 2
Yeah I forgot what he did to CSK... I admit it could pierce even Hades. But like you said, we don't know if GH could regenerate him, and Hades should be able to destroy the thorns before contact with his arsenal of spells. I'm mostly on his side because of his overwhelming offense, especially with Devil's Eye and Nemesis, but I admit it's debatable if Mard could keep dodging and blocking until Hades runs out of energy.Natsu and Gray never tanked thorns though, they evaded them or broke them with magic before contract. And Mard never used high AOE thorns against them, simultaneously from beneath ground, unlike he did against CSK. He used thorns one by one so they could dodge, or visibly so they could destroy.
Only CSK actually got stabbed by them, and it went through CSK like hot knife through butter. It would've straight up killed him if CSK wasn't immortal himself.
If Hades get hit by it, it will go through him and do lethal damage. Hades has to dodge them or destroy them before contact. Unless GH heals lethal damage too. If GH heals lethal damage, and MM is restricted, Mard literally can't win
Hades would never run out of energy tho, that's the point of GH. It's basically an infinite source of magic power, a non ideal replica of FH. The one on clock here is Mard, because his curse power is limited.Yeah I forgot what he did to CSK... I admit it could pierce even Hades. But like you said, we don't know if GH could regenerate him, and Hades should be able to destroy the thorns before contact with his arsenal of spells. I'm mostly on his side because of his overwhelming offense, especially with Devil's Eye and Nemesis, but I admit it's debatable if Mard could keep dodging and blocking until Hades runs out of energy.
And even if Grimoire Law is restricted and GH can't heal lethal damage, I still go with Hades high-diff, but both our points of view are respectable. It was fun exchanging our opinions!Hades would never run out of energy tho, that's the point of GH. It's basically an infinite source of magic power, a non ideal replica of FH. The one on clock here is Mard, because his curse power is limited.
If GH can heal lethal damage and MM is restricted, then there is no way Mard can beat Hades.
If GH can't heal lethal damage, then it's a tough choice. I'd go with Mard
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Actually, now that I remember, Mard DID use some AOE Thorns against Sting, Rogue and Natsu, but he still didn't manage to stab them. I think the reason is because Thorns aren't very accurate, they succesfully pierced CSK because he was huge and slow, while human mages are much smaller and faster targets.Natsu and Gray never tanked thorns though, they evaded them or broke them with magic before contract. And Mard never used high AOE thorns against them, simultaneously from beneath ground, unlike he did against CSK. He used thorns one by one so they could dodge, or visibly so they could destroy.
I know newer Fairy Tail villains usually SEEM stronger than older ones, in fact I was almost convinced of Mard's superiority when I saw one of the nine demon gates had Hades' soul and was still weaker than Mard. But if you re-watch fights closely, here's what you can see:R1 : Mard Geer. I think Hadès was a very powerful wizard at his time and I do respect him. But I think, Mard Geer in on another level in every stats, even without Ethernous Form.
R2 : Well, the demon's eye and Heart are the same application of Tenro Tree for Fairy Tail's members : a magic boost and preserve them to die. But, even if Hadès is stronger, I put Mard Geer still above by some gap. So, as Hadès can't die, it will be a draw by mismatch, until Mard Geer uses Memento Mori to erase him form existence. It is a Malefice created to destroy Zeleph, an immortal deity, and victims of this curse is neither living or dying. They are erase or imprison in an another Plan Dimension. Mard Geer for the win.