Fantasy Mercophobia vs Igneel

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Motherglare’s roar dwarfs mountains, while Igneel’s roar is not even reaching beyond the peak of mountains
 
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Motherglare’s roar dwarfs mountains, while Igneel’s roar is not even reaching the peak of mountains
Motherglare's roar didn't hit anything solid except the mountains. Igneel's roar crashed into Acnologia first before pushing him into the mountain. Natsu never took note of Motherglare's roar, whereas Natsu was in awe by Igneel's. Also, like I said, size isn't everything. The point isn't to compare who has the largest roar. The size of the roar is irrelevant if it does no damage.

Igneel can't heavily damage Acnologia with a single roar, so I am not saying he would oneshot Mercphobia with a roar. Though you have to keep in mind that Acnologia is immune to all magic, whilst Mercphobia is not. What Igneel can certainly do however, is fight Acnologia for 20 minutes and bite off one of his arms. On the other hand, Mercphobia's roar could barely even damage Natsu. He certainly isn't taking out Igneel with it. None of Mercphobia's other attacks are that much better. His roar was tanked by Natsu. His water pillars were tanked by Gray, Erza, Lucy and Wendy. Natsu was able to swim out of his wave. Ignia was able to swim out of his whirlpool.
 

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That means he missed Atlas and just brushed against his flames, which would be considered a hit, Natsu was already powered by Atlas’s flames which is a significant power up from another dragon, he did not have dragon strength at the time of Tartaros so of course he would still be amazed. The damage is based on the size, which Motherglare clearly trumps Igneel’s. Natsu was already stronger than before so it makes sense he can take that much damage and stilll stand, and Merc is not at full power too. His pillars did not make contact with Team Natsu, Gray simply froze his attack which sea water can freeze as well. Ignia was on DG level so it makes sense, and Merc is berserk, so he would not have the luxury of paying attention to unbeknownst pests, even one can ride the current to get out of a wave.
 

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That means he missed Atlas and just brushed against his flames, which would be considered a hit, Natsu was already powered by Atlas’s flames which is a significant power up from another dragon, he did not have dragon strength at the time of Tartaros so of course he would still be amazed. The damage is based on the size, which Motherglare clearly trumps Igneel’s. Natsu was already stronger than before so it makes sense he can take that much damage and stilll stand, and Merc is not at full power too. His pillars did not make contact with Team Natsu, Gray simply froze his attack which sea water can freeze as well. Ignia was on DG level so it makes sense, and Merc is berserk, so he would not have the luxury of paying attention to unbeknownst pests, even one can ride the current to get out of a wave.
You can clearly see where that the roar hit Atlas Flame. You can clearly see that Atlas Flame's body was distorted from where the roar hit. Atlas Flame even commented on how Motherglare's roar can't hurt his flame body.

Whether or not something amazes Natsu wouldn't have anything to do with how powerful Natsu was at the time. It's not like Natsu would have had amnesia. Igneel's strength amazed Natsu despite Natsu already knowing how powerful the GMG dragons were. Motherglare lost to a subordinate of Igneel's powering a human. Motherglare is nowhere near as strong as Igneel.

Natsu is still nowhere near Acnologia's level in terms of durability, and Mercphobia could barely deal any damage to Natsu even before he ate Ignia's flames. Igneel fought Acnologia for 20 minutes and managed to get Acnologia all bloody.

Even if the pillars didn't make direct contact with team Natsu, that doesn't make it any more impressive when we're talking about people like Lucy or Wendy. The fact that Gray can freeze the pillar at all speaks volumes about how much of a non-threat the water pillars are. Igneel would oneshot Gray, Erza, Wendy, and Lucy with the roar he used on Acnologia. He'd oneshot Natsu too if Natsu wasn't resistant to fire. There would be no dodging or missing either. In any case, Mercphobia's roar definitely made full contact with Natsu.

You keep saying Mercphobia is not at full power as if this changes anything. Again, the thread is asking for the version of Mercphobia that fought Natsu. Everyone and their mothers know Mercphobia wasn't at full power. It doesn't matter. Also, Mercphobia being berserk and not paying attention means it would be all the easier for Igneel to land a bite on him.
 
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It just brushed off him, going by what you said, until you can prove that there is a statement that attacks go through him, he does not have phasing powers, especially against Makarov hoe clearly impacted Atlas. It’s his father, of course a child would be amazed at their parent’s feats, you can see the dork look on his face, and not the genuine fear like other times, but Natsu has had his memories effected by the Dragon soul technique. Natsu hit Rogue, not Motherglare, it was Atlas that did the job. I did not say that, I said Natsu was far stronger than when he was at Tartaros so of course he can take that damage and live, and stop saying Merc is Acno Level when he is half that. Lucy and Wendy are already strong, well Wendy is stronger since she has great potential described by Irene who created the DS. Gray freezing a pillar of water is nothing out of the ordinary as sea water can freeze as well, it is common knowledge. But not before Igneel loses a chunk of his body in the process as well.
 
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Igneel losing a chunk of his body to an attack that barely fazed base Natsu lol? Not happening. Igneel could take a nap while Merc bombards him with those attacks and still wake refreshed an hour later. Water magic so impotent that it can be frozen by gray effortlessly, in a second, is nothing for Igneel to be concerned about
 

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Natsu is basically stronger at this point, and since he beat FH Zeref without any external power up, he can basically hold his own with Merc at 50%, yet Igneel can’t even in prime he is weaker than Acno
 

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That why he start bleeding after getting headbutted by Gajeel.
Gajeel Headbutt > Merc Roar/Pillars.
 

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Gajeel > base Acno = Dragon Gods > Prime Igneel > Weakened Igneel with PoF > Weakened Igneel

by your logic
 

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That a logic you came up with by twisting my statment to your liking.

(Acno/Igneel/Gajeel/Natsu) durability > Merc Roar.

Even Team Natsu tanked Merc fodder pillar blasts.
 

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Wow this has gone on for a while now.
 

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No it is your logic as you want statements and showings instead of assumptions which is how it is
It can go on for eternity unless you intend to stop which I wouldn’t be opposed to
 

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No it is your logic as you want statements and showings instead of assumptions which is how it is
It can go on for eternity unless you intend to stop which I wouldn’t be opposed to
But like nearly everyone here as far as I can see has proved you wrong.
 

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You interpreted my statement to your liking and push your logic into me.
 

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You are not one to talk with your interpretation of my points to your liking as well, and those times are intentionally showing how it feels
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But like nearly everyone here as far as I can see has proved you wrong.
Not everyone as they have yet to show even impressive feats if they believe it to be so, as I proved their way of thinking wrong
 

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Your interpretation of multi-continental is something you came up when it was nothing more water worth of town.
I didn't twist if to my liking but told what was shown in the manga.
You haven't proved anything and you never will.
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You yourself haven't showed any impressive feats
 

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By using science and math and statements and visual representation of the manga to determine the power behind his feat which most of his attacks came from. And most of the water evaporated by Ignia so it reduced the attack to that length.

You have not given any counter points and never will

Yes I have and yet you did not
 

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Axiomas already countered that pretty hard. "Science" says evaporating that much water would kill every human there and reduce that town to ash, not what happened, so your "science" is obviously wrong, not surprising too considering you are basing it on a word not present in the manga(ocean). Try not to insert your own words(ocean) into the manga to make the feat seem more impressive, its a poor showing.
 

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By using maths and science on baseless assumptions you came up. Even before Ignia came water he raised was nothing more than town level.
You yourself hasn't given any counter points on your side.
No you haven't. Only you think that you have.
 
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