Fantasy Mercophobia vs Igneel

[Seven777]

Except an entirely different spell, that does something entirely different, that works over a period of time, doesn't change the scale of a different spell that already has a manga-confirmed scale. Especially when that different spell is also referred to as a sea. Like I said, at best you can say you don't know how much water Merc lifted

 

[WoWfan]

A weaker spell no doubt which makes the 50% spell even greater than before, and even had the qualities of an ocean since it has the qualities of the ocean too. Which that spell is also stated to be ocean too. You can know how much lifted by calculating the volume of the ocean region and the mass.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

It was only a town level worth water that's what i saw in the manga which did buidling level damage.

Gray's stated that Skullion was going to turn ocean into so by your calculation he should be multi-continental as well.

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[WoWfan]

The water even extends outside of the town. Ocean as there is still water being accumulated. Skullion could have been that level had it not been for Gray’s next statement about it effecting the town, so obviously not effecting all of the ocean

 

[Seven777]

Except we have an actual description of the spell, stated "sea". Sorry, but your little speculation about the size of an entirely different spell holds little weight in the face of actualy words from the manga

As for bringing in the tide being a weaker spell, sure, but the fact that the sea lifting was done when Merc had access to more power doesn't make it bigger. I told you before, size don't mean shit. Just look at Merc's roar, tiny, yet Merc at that point had more power than when he was bringing in the tide each day.

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Also obvious that Merc wasn't affecting the whole ocean too, considering we see the harbor filled with water a few minutes after the fight. Yet another point proven by WoW's own logic.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Same applied to Merc. Erza statment of merc flipping the sea makes previous statment of ocean is irrelevant as it was only size of town. At least Skullion could have erased Elemina according gray. Merc struggling to destroy it while being a Dragon God when Skullion is a fodder to him.

 

[WoWfan]

Except is is described as ocean, and has the qualities of an ocean. It is relèvent as the spell is merely the dregs of what he is capable of and yet his influence is the ocean, are you seriously assuming that he got weaker then he finally got serious with rising to 50%? Because that seems like a fallacy on your part. As the tide was described as the ocean, so yes he is more than capable of lifting an entire ocean especially when said ocean is given the characteristics of an ocean unlike a sea is. He did show more power than when he lifted an ocean to above building level height when he brought it up to the sky. That is how much stronger he is. And the harbor is still connected to the ocean which is connected to other oceans which still has water in them, and when the remaining water after the vaporize returned to the harbor as well, it makes sense. KT, it is relèvent as she did not say a portion of the ocean by the ocean in general, unlike Gray who gave en estimate size, skullion is weaker than weakened Merc who was not 50% at the time without control of his powers

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Erza stated it was sea so all those previous statments are irrelevant. All he did was raise water worth of town and his pillars did building level damage.

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Ofcourse if Skullion was turning the ocean of ash. It is only natural that Elimina is completely erased. Any one with common sense will say it.

 

[WoWfan]

No, it has the qualities of an ocean which makes it an ocean, they are relèvent as they come from the same kanji which makes them synonymous for large body of water, it fluctuates from time to time. Skullion was only going to turn the town to ash, not the entire ocean, difference in your assumption

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Erza stated it was sea so all those previous statments are irrelevant. That's how it was shown in the manga as well.
All he did was raise water worth of town and his pillars did building level damage.
Ofcourse if Skullion was turning the ocean of ash. It is only natural that Elimina is completely erased. Any one with common sense will say it.
We can say skullion is Multi-Continental.

 

[WoWfan]

No, the other statements are not irrelevant as they are synonymous with one another at this point which makes sense for it to be ocean as it shares the qualities of an ocean. Skullion was only going to turn the town to ash, not the entire ocean, difference in your assumption still not as strong as 50% Merc

 

[Seven777]

Not in the slightest. Like Skullion who did not affect the whole ocean despite what Gray said, neither did Merc who of course was only stated to lift a sea(which he also did not lift the entirety of). Kurumi is right, it's a towns worth of water.

 

[WoWfan]

Merc did, Skullion did not because the statement makes it clear it was just the town for him, and the entire ocean for Merc as it possesses the qualities of the ocean, you still cannot prove it other wise. And the fact that one of them who has a city smaller than his hand is a DG is saying much more than what you give Merc credit for.

 

[Seven777]

I don't need to prove otherwise because it was stated to be a sea, though the water not crushing the town is clear proof. As for Aldoron, he's not at %50, he's also not as big as an ocean.

 

[WoWfan]

And it is and ocean as it has the qualities of one, the fact that light does not shine through and described as an abyss would be hard to Describe it as a sea. And his lifting spell is stronger than before, it is common sense. Because most of the water was vaporized by Ignia, it does not matter when Aldron is at the same power as the other Dragon Gods and Acno who are both Multi-Continent level

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Aldoron is a fodder as of now. Even romeo can defeat him. All he has do is destroy those orbs. He is irrelevant to power scaling. He is clearly not the size of an ocean.
Skullion was going to erase the ocean by Gray's statment.
Gray next statement "At this rate Elimina will gone" only natural reaction. If he was turning ocean to ash they it's only natural elimina will be erased. That's a statement anyone with common sense will say.
Merc lifted a water worth of town. Erza state it's sea so all those previous stataments are irrelevant.

 

[Seven777]

Doesn't even qualify as a sea given the lack of destruction it caused when falling on a town. Being vaporized by Ignia also doesn't make sense by science, like I said, you don't get to pick and choose when science applies and when it doesn't.

As for Alron, he's not the size of a continent either, let alone multiple ones.

 

[WoWfan]

That is considered cheating and not real feats, it doesn’t matter as they all scale to each other which Acno and Merc are multi continent level by feats and scaling. Gray stated that it was the twin he was going to erase, that is the limit he has. He was not going to erase the whole ocean, that is Skullions limit, Merc lifting and ocean worth of water is more impressive

Again, most of the water was vaporized by Ignia which still give Ignia multi-continent level feat as well, you can when magic is a factor as well when they go hand and hand since the beginning of the manga. Again, they all scale to each other which are multi-continent, it’s to disprove the nonsense of town level DG

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

As for Alron, he's not the size of a continent either, let alone multiple ones.

He is another bakal for now. Even a pure fodder can defeat. All they have to is destory those orbs. Aldoron losses all his powers unless otherwise. I am surprised he surived this long.

 

[WoWfan]

It is considered cheating and not a real feat, Again, they all scale to each other which are multi-continent, it’s to disprove the nonsense of town level DG

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