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Mirajane vs Jellal

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They are as strong as in the current arcs.
Mirajane have sayla and curse.
 

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We Will have To See Whether Macro works on Stronger Opponents.In Raw Power Jellal is Stronger.I Will give This Battle To Jellal.
 

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This is a really tough battle for both of them. But I'll go with Mirajane winning this with extreme high diff. The only way I can see her taking down Jellal is with her Seilah Soul. If she uses Macro on him he can't use spells like Meteor and Grand Chariot. I don't know if Jellal can cast Sema without using his body, but I can see Mirajane taking this by dodging it. We know how fast Mirajane is and that Sema needs some time to hit the ground. We shouldn't forget that the spells Mirajane can use while she is in Satan Soul are very destructive as well.
 

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Idk how strong Jellal is but I don't think Mira is quite as strong as Erza. It might be jumping the gun to give Jellal = Laxus but I am happy to do that, so saying Jellal wins low to mid difficulty.
 

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Well since we don't know the absolute extent of Seilah's macro and Jellal's current powers I'm going to make the assumption that Jellal has a way around Macro so I give this to Jellal Medium-High Difficulty.
 

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But Mira could use macro so... ?how could jellal win? I mean like i know jellal got a lots of powerful spell but that didn't guarantee anything.
I don't really know the limitations of Macro. In terms of sheer power I expect Jellal to outclass Mirajane by a fair margin. Jellal is likely going to be one of the strongest if not the strongest wizard from Isghal right now.
 

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Wow... that is like taking overrated to another level Lol.
Sorry :) He just came back this chapter so maybe a little excited.

But seriously Jellal could be that strong. Laxus and Natsu are the strongest we've seen so far (for non-Alvarez people). Jellal could be stronger. Mira I feel won't be as strong as Erza. I'm just speculating for now.
 

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Yeah gotta agree I see Jellal winning this mid-high diff I just think he has a bit more of a diverse skill set that's been shown as opposed to Mira, tough fight though no doubt.
 

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Yeah gotta agree I see Jellal winning this mid-high diff I just think he has a bit more of a diverse skill set that's been shown as opposed to Mira, tough fight though no doubt.
Which skills put Jellal above Mirajane? They're both fast. Both of them possesses powerful spells. In skills I'd say they're pretty equal. The only spell that is stronger than Mirajane's spells is Sema. But still, I can see Mirajane dodging it since it need some time to hit the ground. Mirajane can fly.
 

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Which skills put Jellal above Mirajane? They're both fast. Both of them possesses powerful spells. In skills I'd say they're pretty equal. The only spell that is stronger than Mirajane's spells is Sema. But still, I can see Mirajane dodging it since it need some time to hit the ground. Mirajane can fly.
Yeah perhaps skills was the wrong word I just think subjectively to me speed goes to Jellal and so does the most powerful attack in Sema plus I do believe In terms of what has been shown we are supposed to believe that Mirajane and Erza are roughly on par with each other and I think Jellal has always been portrayed to be a little bit stronger than Erza,whether he is now is unknown I suppose I just think until shown otherwise I'm likely to believe it is the same.
 

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Jellal wins. extent of Macro control depends on difference in magic levels. Sayla's control of even Elfman was not absolute. He was fighting it, also, she needed to use the kidnapped sisters in addition to Macro to make him bomb FT. You guys are writing about Macro, as if she just put a curse on him, then commanded him to bomb FT, and he immediately followed it like a good boy. That's not how it happened. Somebody at the magic level of Jellal should be capable of breaking Macro. He took down entire Oracion single-handedly.
 

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Lol.... I don't think defeating oracion seis is such a big feat.... Mira, natsu ,Lucy, gray ,erza ... all of them could defeat them single handedly .....
At their power levels during GMG they could defeat Oracion single-handedly? Aren't you underestimating Midnight, Cobra and Zero.Each defeated one of Oracion with difficulty,and then they get a second origin and that they are strong enough to defeat the entire guild! How much do you think second origin their power?
Lucy could defeat entire Oracion single-handedly? That's just fantasy.
 

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Well first jellal didn't defeat oc in gmg arc but tartaros... and during tartaros arc gray could just froze them all and you know how strong natsu is and Lucy could summon csk In which far stronger than any oc member.... about erza I'm unsure coz she didn't show anything in tartaros arc but well she's erza.

Mirajane no doubt is a beast...
Ok but that's like saying Gray could have frozen anyone which has no proof behind it, we have no idea how powerful Gray was during that arc cause all he fought were demon's which was the magic's specialty. Lucy can't summon the CSK at will so that's useless and than you would be saying that Natsu and Erza multiplied there strength by huge amounts to be able to take them all down with nothing other than second origin and maybe a little training. To me i don't get why people believe MIra to be more powerful than Jellal, I feel like when people say that it's almost like saying she is stronger than Erza by a decent amount, i feel like this is a character in Mira who has shown nothing higher than Erza's power level and has defeated far less strong fighters than her and Jellal has always been portrayed as stronger than Erza imo not by a huge amount but i think it's fairly obvious by the fighters Jellal has fought.
 

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Well first jellal didn't defeat oc in gmg arc but tartaros... and during tartaros arc gray could just froze them all and you know how strong natsu is and Lucy could summon csk In which far stronger than any oc member.... about erza I'm unsure coz she didn't show anything in tartaros arc but well she's erza.

Mirajane no doubt is a beast...
Right after GM arc, the only thing they did was go to sun village before fighting Tartarus. When did they power up. About Gray, by your logic, he can freeze them all, Gray becomes invincible. Also, his magic is DS magic, so its has a special particle that works specifically against Demons. About Natsu, there is the normal one with regular fights, and there is another Natsu with the climax fights, where he can defeat anyone and anybody. Normal Natsu could not melt the ice of DS magic. Also, Lucy loses a key to summon CSK. Also, her magic is limited, so CSK only lasts for a very short time. Only thing we know of Mira is she and Erza used to be rivals. U have to give a little more reason, than saying she is a beast.
Again, Natsu and Lucy being main characters are capable of doing anything during crisis, but that's inconsistent with their normal power levels.
 
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Gray magic could froze human too just like what silver did to natsu.... so yes he could defeat oc ...idk what you mean by saying Lucy couldn't summon csk at will... she could... it is her power and if she want to she could do it.....

Well IMO Mira is indeed stronger than erza.... I've been asking people on how could erza ever defeat Mira and no one came up with a logical explanation... IMO Mira > erza.

And defeated people less doesn't mean that they're weak soooo .....?

I don't get how jellal going to defeat mirajane either.
We don't know that Gray was as proficient with Demon slaying magic as Silver was and even if he was you have to use some common sense when thinking about why for instance Gray did not Insta freeze the people he has fought since receiving it like Mard Geer and Ajeel briefly, I think it's obvious he can't just freeze anything anywhere otherwise he would have done it. Lucy can technically summon him at anytime but she would lose a key and thus would choose not too because it's impractical and i do not believe that should factor into how we see her power wise. As far as Mira vs Erza i don't really get where your coming from, Erza has an insane amount of armors that give her various advantages giving her imo the highest versatility in Fairy tail, Mira on the other hand has less demon forms however she has shown to be a very formidable opponent when she is using them hence why Gray said that Mira had no glaring weaknesses but i don't believe Erza has shown any either. I do believe that Mira is portrayed as being on par with Erza and i will give her some benefit of the doubt due to her not being a main character and as such not having as many opportunities to fight but i don't see what abilities Mira has shown that makes you think that Erza could never beat her. You are right that defeating people does not make you inherently more powerful than others or even the character you defeat for that matter but it has to have some factor when discussing one's feats imo.
 

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Yeah i think we will have to just agree to disagree here. I don't believe Gray can and would be able to Freeze the entire OC and there is no proof to say otherwise, Under your logic Lucy would have to burn a key every time she fought a high tier fighter or somewhat mid tier fighters fighters as is the case with OC, so if that's your point than fine yeah she could take them i guess. Erza does without a doubt have a large assortment of armor that has been proven effective in a wide variety of situations and if you had understood my post the point that i was trying to make is that it makes her flexible which makes her a better fighter and yes she has had to resort to the no armor look several times but what does that have to do with her being weaker than Mira? Mira does have several spells she has shown in the manga with her first form but none with the other and only macro with seilah which as it has already been stated in this thread is not useable on high magic power targets so i still am struggling to see your position here. I also do not rely on Manga episode length as a valid marker as to how long the CSK can stay up. This will be my last post on the subject as i have nothing left to add and was only comparing Erza and Mira as a marker to Jellal and Mira so i apologize to all if i got a bit off topic. Ps i think he deleted his previous post so a lot of what i said would make no sense to others reading this haha.
 
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No Fairy Tail member can solo the Oracion Seis. Jellal could defeat them by using his strongest spells, Grand Chariot and Sema. There is no one in Fairy Tail who uses a spell as destructive as Sema.

It's a fact that Lucy can't defeat the Oracion Seis on her own. I can only see her defeating members like Angel, Racer and Hoteye. She won't summon the Celestial King. I don't understand why so many people say that she just can like it's nothing. She won't sacrifice another Celestial Spirit.

I can see Erza taking on Cobra or Midnight, but she still hasn't a chance against them all together.

Laxus his Red Lightning and Rolling Thunder aren't as destructive as Sema.

As for Mirajane, she does use destructive spells. I can see her solo 3 or 4 members of the Oracion Seis. Even though I think that Mirajane would win against Jellal, she doesn't posses spells like Sema.

The reason why I think that Mira would win this is because her skills are quite better than Jellal's. She can fly, so she could dodge Sema. And she's fast, so she could prevent Jellal to cast spells. Mirajane is a monster once she uses Satan Soul. A 1vs1 against Mira would be a hard battle for any mage.
 

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Gildarts and Makarov could certainly solo the Oracion Seis in Tartarus arc. Simply put there is no one in OS with the offence to hurt those two. Gildarts would pummel any OS member in CQC. Makarov in Titan would beat em down the same way, and could cast Fairy Law if need be. The only guy who's trouble is Midnight, who Jellal had to crush his eyes for. The rest don't hold a candle to Gildarts or Makarov. There is a chance Laxus can also solo them in Tartarus. I am not as confident as I am with Gildarts/Makarov but he's a good chance (CQC, slayer ranged attacks, Fairy Law).

If we're talking current arc characters vs Tartarus OS I'd say on feats Laxus (without RL he'd solo them, the nuke is featless but would oneshot imo), Natsu (roar) and Erza (she wouldn't need Nakagami) would drop OS. Without feats and just using my predictions, I'd give Gray, Gajeel and Mirajane the benefit of the doubt of soloing OS.

There isn't a single way I can think Mira outmatches Jellal. The only thing possible imo is Macro, and I don't give it the hype to beat Jellal.
 

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No Fairy Tail member can solo the Oracion Seis. Jellal could defeat them by using his strongest spells, Grand Chariot and Sema. There is no one in Fairy Tail who uses a spell as destructive as Sema.

It's a fact that Lucy can't defeat the Oracion Seis on her own. I can only see her defeating members like Angel, Racer and Hoteye. She won't summon the Celestial King. I don't understand why so many people say that she just can like it's nothing. She won't sacrifice another Celestial Spirit.

I can see Erza taking on Cobra or Midnight, but she still hasn't a chance against them all together.

Laxus his Red Lightning and Rolling Thunder aren't as destructive as Sema.

As for Mirajane, she does use destructive spells. I can see her solo 3 or 4 members of the Oracion Seis. Even though I think that Mirajane would win against Jellal, she doesn't posses spells like Sema.

The reason why I think that Mira would win this is because her skills are quite better than Jellal's. She can fly, so she could dodge Sema. And she's fast, so she could prevent Jellal to cast spells. Mirajane is a monster once she uses Satan Soul. A 1vs1 against Mira would be a hard battle for any mage.
Are you serious? Any high tier within FT could solo OC. Whe the fact you think nobody has a spell as destructive as Sema is laughable, Laxus' casual nuke against Ajeel was on Sema's scale in destruction.
 

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I believe makarov and laxus both could use fairy law and one shott all of them...

As for Lucy as I said before it is her power so what is up with the things she wouldn't use her power? Its her power and she will use it when she need it.... it's a fight nothing got to do with her feeling whatsoever... a fight mean she could use whatever she have.

I don't really know about erza Lol... maybe taking all of them is quite too much for her .

I think gildart could solo them too and this is base on hype... he seems strong and his base power could just make them disperse or whatsoever.

If we were talking about in the current arc then I believe that natsu could defeat them alone , I know that might sound too overrated but yeah it is my opinion.

Agree that mira is clearly not someone easy to fight with.... I keep imagining Mira fight a lots of mages at once and I still couldn't think how she could lose...

She is fast , had countless spell .... uhmm yeah she is just a total beast.
I agree that Makarov could solo the Oracion Seis with Fairy Law. I didn't count him in. As for Laxus, there is no proof that he can use Fairy Law.

Yes Lucy can summon the Celestial King, but do you think that she will sacrifice another Celestial Spirit? She has suffered enough after she broke the key from Aquarius. Even if she would summon the Celestial Spirit King, that doesn't say he will defeat all the Oracion Seis members. The Celestial King was equal with Mard Geer (in his normal form). The Oracion Seis all together are stronger than Mard Geer.

What can Gildarts do against Midnight? Magic doesn't effect him. I can see him creating an illusion with Acnologia, that should scare the hell out of Gildarts.

Are you serious? Any high tier within FT could solo OC. Whe the fact you think nobody has a spell as destructive as Sema is laughable, Laxus' casual nuke against Ajeel was on Sema's scale in destruction.
You make the Oracion Seis look like crap. You shouldn't forget that Crime Sorciere have trained in the past year as well. The Oracion Seis isn't as weak as they were in the OS arc. Sema is one of the strongest spells ever shown in Fairy Tail. Laxus' attack at Ajeel is not even close to Sema.
 
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