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demon king is a weakling compared to guy that'd why he got hakai but not guy also why need for night guy when guy can one shot him from a large distance from just one evening elephant vacuum punch
For now, that is true, he is just a weakling to 8 gates Guy.

But if Meliodas's ability is hax and ignore durability, then Guy need to attack at distance if you doesn't want to get caught by his Hakai destructive abilities of his OG.

Anyway, when Meliodas will get planetary dest, I will come back to this Meliodas vs Guy again.
 

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For now, that is true, he is just a weakling to 8 gates Guy.

But if Meliodas's ability is hax and ignore durability, then Guy need to attack at distance if you doesn't want to get caught by his Hakai destructive abilities of his OG.

Anyway, when Meliodas will get planetary dest, I will come back to this Meliodas vs Guy again.
which he will never get
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For now, that is true, he is just a weakling to 8 gates Guy.

But if Meliodas's ability is hax and ignore durability, then Guy need to attack at distance if you doesn't want to get caught by his Hakai destructive abilities of his OG.

Anyway, when Meliodas will get planetary dest, I will come back to this Meliodas vs Guy again.
he will become at max continental level
 

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Merlin (with prep time) vs The One
Merlin (with prep time) vs AM Meliodas (TC leader version)
Merlin (with prep time) vs King
Cusack vs Chandler
 

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Mael and meliodas Vs Madara and hashirama (excluding rikudo powers)
Round 1. it's early morning and Mel in his 2nd demon mark
Hashirama and madara start up in base
Round 2. it's near to noon mael and Assault mode Mel.
Hashirama unlocks his sage mode and Kyuubi controlled madara.
Round 3. the one mode mael and OG magic meliodas
Hashirama with 1000 Buddha hands and madara with one eye rinnegan and kyuubi
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which team wins
 

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which he will never get
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he will become at max continental level
I bet that he will be planetary level at EOS.

I believe into his Destroyer power, Nakaba will do it.
 

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Original Gowther vs Zeldris
Tough to say since we don't know anything about how strong OG Gowther was and what his combat capabilities were like. We can only rely on statements. He looked confident in fighting Zeldris, even though he said that he would waste a lot of magic doing so and OG Gowther doesn't strike me as some type of fool who would overestimate himself or underestimate his opponents. That being said, OG Gowther probably can bypass The Ruler with his magic, he already did it by modifying the DK's memories, someone far above Zel. Yes, it was through a life-risking technique, but he not only affected the DK, he was able to affect everybody on the Holy War. Zel has an incomplete version of that magic, so him being affected by high-level spells from OG Gowther is not impossible. I'm gonna say Zeldris. I don't know the difficulty tho, maybe high.

Original Gowther vs Merlin
King vs Merlin
Merlin vs Sariel
Merlin vs Tarmiel
Merlin vs Ludo
Merlin vs Elizabeth
Merlin vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs Chandler
Original Gowther vs Cusack
Original Gowther vs Sariel
Original Gowther vs Tarmiel
Original Gowther vs Ludo
Original Gowther vs Elizabeth
Original Gowther (without killing himself) vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs The One
- Leading towards OG Gowther.
- I'm assuming it's King with his fully sprout wings. In that case, he wins.
- Sariel wins.
- Tarmiel wins.
- Ludo wins.
- Most likely Eli if she is off-character and bloodlusted. Even tho, I have my doubts.
- Mael wins.
- Most likely Chandler.
- Most likely Cusack.
- I literally don't have any idea about the Sariel and Tarmiel ones.
- Most likely Ludo.
- Eli most likely has more raw magic power than him, however OG Gowther's magic is way more lethal, to the point that if he lands one hit I see him taking the victory. Eli doesn't seem to have much battle experience, meanwhile OG Gowther seems full of it. I'd say OG Gowther more times than not. I could be wrong tho, since I'm not too sure about it.
- Mael wins.
- The One wins.

All these matchups with OG Gowther are tricky. In raw power he's definitely below the likes of Mael, Ludo, Eli (probably), The One, etc. The thing here is that his magic is so haxed that he can potentially end the fight if he caughts them.

Merlin (with prep time) vs The One
Merlin (with prep time) vs AM Meliodas (TC leader version)
Merlin (with prep time) vs King
Cusack vs Chandler
- Merlin probably wins. She can do the same trick that she did against Chandler and Cusack and teleport far away to evade possible Escanor attacks. If she can do that, she wins.
- Merlin also has a chance, but if Mel uses his OG Magic it's over for her.
- Merlin wins probably.
- Hard to say, they look like equals to me, but I'm gonna say Chandler since he has more versatility than Cusack. Extreme difficulty.

All these Merlin with preparation fights are even more tricky since you could take into account infinite possibilities.
 

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Merlin (with prep time) vs The One
Merlin (with prep time) vs AM Meliodas (TC leader version)
Merlin (with prep time) vs King
Cusack vs Chandler
The One, he kill her on the spot.
AM Meliodas, kill her on the spot too.
King
Chandler
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Mael and meliodas Vs Madara and hashirama (excluding rikudo powers)
Round 1. it's early morning and Mel in his 2nd demon mark
Hashirama and madara start up in base
Round 2. it's near to noon mael and Assault mode Mel.
Hashirama unlocks his sage mode and Kyuubi controlled madara.
Round 3. the one mode mael and OG magic meliodas
Hashirama with 1000 Buddha hands and madara with one eye rinnegan and kyuubi
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which team wins
Wrong thread, go to cross verse battle dude.
 

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I bet that he will be planetary level at EOS.

I believe into his Destroyer power, Nakaba will do it.
as i just said continental level at best still you can hope
 

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How about this fight

Assault Mode Meliodas 142k Vs entire 10 Commandments (Estarossa is there)

Assault Mode Meliodas post Escanor fight Vs entire 10 Commandments(Estarossa is there)
 

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How about this fight

Assault Mode Meliodas 142k Vs entire 10 Commandments (Estarossa is there)

Assault Mode Meliodas post Escanor fight Vs entire 10 Commandments(Estarossa is there)
1) Depends if Meliodas can/will up his firepower because the Escanor encountered was a complete flop due to how he perceived Escanor's power. If not, the 10C can stop him, Zeldris being the heavy lifter. Zeldris might even solo

2) Meliodas wins. Perhaps no difficulty. They'll all be subdued easily. Not even Zeldris' ON or DK will cut it.
 

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Assault Mode Meliodas 142k Vs entire 10 Commandments (Estarossa is there)

Assault Mode Meliodas post Escanor fight Vs entire 10 Commandments(Estarossa is there)
- Zeldris solos. Ominous Nebula is too much for this Mel unless, of course, he uses his OG magic, but I don't think we're counting on that here.

- All the 10C get stomped with Zeldris being the exception. 2nd DM+ON is a combo that even The One struggled a little bit to beat, awakened AM Mel won't put him down that easy. Mel high diff (the decrees will be a little bit of a problem here). If the commandments go Indura, then they win (I say it again, I'm not counting his OG magic).

Curious to know about people's opinions about those:

- Wild vs Sariel
- Wild vs Cusack
- Wild vs Zeldris
- Wild vs King (Fully Grown Wings)
- Wild (Full Throttle) vs The One Escanor

Conditions:

- Demons can't use Indura.
- Wild starts in base all of the battles, but if he gets pushed he can go Full Throttle (keep in mind than he can die going in that state).
- In the last battle, Wild can use Full Throttle all the time without wasting life force. The One also lasts indefinitely.
 

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- All the 10C get stomped with Zeldris being the exception. 2nd DM+ON is a combo that even The One struggled a little bit to beat, awakened AM Mel won't put him down that easy. Mel high diff (the decrees will be a little bit of a problem here). If the commandments go Indura, then they win (I say it again, I'm not counting his OG magic).

Curious to know about people's opinions about those:
LMFAO do you realize that zeldris own borrowed magic never worked on meliodas who used magical attack even though that's the forte of DKs power??

the fact that it's heavily implied DKs has better defense than ON and the fact meliodas is a physical fighter (most likely) but yet he bypassed DKs magic,

so no zeldris alone gets stomp by meliodas without any difficulty, this is shown when he even acknowledges meliodas for being too strong.
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As for meliodas (prime) vs merlin (prep).

meliodas blitzes her before she blinks, meliodas has shown no weakness until nakaba makes it happen, meliodas own magic power is far stronger than hers maybe with infinity too due to the fact that meliodas bypassed DKs ,magic which NO ONE has ever done so far.
 

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Merlin (with prep time) vs The One
Merlin (with prep time) vs AM Meliodas (TC leader version)
Merlin (with prep time) vs King
Cusack vs Chandler
1. Merlin - Given prep time she just uses the infinity enhanced teleport to just stall for a minute.
2. Meliodas - Merlin left the fight to Escanor when Mel went AM. I'd say w/o prep time it would probs be a blitz but with it infinite double impact hax could be a threat as it stomped Chandler and Cusack. If mel full counters an infinite spell does Merlin get countered infinitely? :cheez Did Chandler forget he knew full counter in the Merlin fight?
3. Not sure on this one. King maybe as his multiple spear use could pollen guard against attacks and try and overwhelm Merlin with multiple guardians and increases. If Merlin lands a spell using infinity its over.
4. Chandler - Slightly higher PL and has shown better feats technique wise. Cusack has only shown his swordsmanship and possession (has only worked against fodder Arthur)
 

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Assault Mode Meliodas 142k Vs entire 10 Commandments (Estarossa is there)

Assault Mode Meliodas post Escanor fight Vs entire 10 Commandments(Estarossa is there)
That version of AM wasn't completely awakened as noted by the DK, Zeldoris can win.

However, he get trashed once awakened AM Meliodas come out as showed in the manga.
He himself later on acknowledged the superiority of Mel as calling him too damn strong for anyone.

Same like the above.
 

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People need to realize that meliodas so far hasn't shown element weakness as of yet, and if a weakness will be exploited then it wouldn't be resistances for the fact that meliodas knows each elements in the series and he was aware what graces can do.
 

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The Original Demon VS Prime Meliodas.

TOD VS Prime Mael.
Well, meliodas has a feat to back up how strong he is by using darkness to bypass DKs magic which it will show how strong he is and how ridiculous he is.

As for mael when he had sunshine he never had enough feats BUT if u wanna scale him to escanor and saying hes stronger cuz hes an archangel then it would still be questionable.

This is a sinner who by his mere presence took out the darkness that meliodas created along with 5C and was easily dispersed without a thought. His power was felt and YOU can see the water ocean and trees being blown by his mere power.

So for mael its unknown but for meliodas I would lean towards the Sinner due to his feat being superior to meliodas own (bypassing DKs magic)
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But I would most likely lean towards the sinner for both match ups.
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Edit: assumingly you were talking about meliodas when he led the commandments.
 
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