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Re: Purpose of Dragon Slayers

To kill dragons?

hahaha, as Gildartz said, they are the only one who can match dragons
That maybe but I am also believing their purpose has something to do with Dark Magic. I had the feeling that Natsu could somehow resist Zeref's dark magic as a Dragon Slayer. Not sure if the result would have been the same with a mage who isn't a dragon slayer
 

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Re: Purpose of Dragon Slayers

I wanna know what the hell is up with Natsu's scarf.
 

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I think that Zeref is not of the Black Dragon (if he actually is a Dragon Slayer). *drum roll*

I believe that Zeref is of the Dragon King himself *gasp* And here I will present my weak argument. :D

It is my belief that Zeref, if he indeed is a Dragon Slayer, is a cut above the rest. His abilities are not those that of a normal Dragon Slayer (Natsu, Gajeel, Wendy), though he seems to believe that Natsu can possibly over power him. Legends abound that Zeref is one of the most powerful Mage to exist, and that he gave birth to 'tens of thousands of demons' according to Ultear.

Again, this is if he is indeed a Dragon Slayer.

Now, I will continue about him in a while. In the meantime, let us examine the beings who taught the Dragon Slayers their abilities: The Dragons themselves.

Dragons are beings of immense power that needed the invention of a new branch of magic to battle them: The Dragon Slayer magics.

There are currently only 5 dragons mentioned within the series: Igneel, Metalicana, Grandine, the Black Dragon, and the Dragon King.

Now, I mentioned that I believe that Zeref could be the Dragon King's, not the Black Dragon's, foster son.

We really don't have an idea what kind of power the Dragon King wields, but it presumably is immense. It is my belief that the Dragon King somehow has control over 'Life' and 'Death' that are reflected in Zeref's magic.

I think that Zeref 'eats' life (his Death Magics) and somehow utilizes this to use as his 'Living Magic'.

Crazy, I know. Guess I took too much hits in the head :chair
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I think Natsu has been made of Igneel. He is a part of Igneel, or an avatar of Igneel. So, he is as old as Igneel, or maybe he has as already lived many lives. The current Natsu may look to be a 18 year old or so, but he probably has past lives.
This is why he remembers Wendy. He already encountered her in some of his past live/incarnation, and the encounter ended badly, according to Grandine. And then, Wendy is younger that the other two DS, probably because of that encounter...

Last but not least : look the scar Natsu has on his neck. Doesn't it looks very similar to Igneel's scars ?
 

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Hmm about Zeref if the Zeref is a dragonslayer at all i do believe his magic to be pure death magic, And that of a death dragon *if thats the same as the black dragon i dunno*

Also the magical releases we see from this current Zeref are not those of the dark lord Zeref. Somehow the dark lord is inside this guy, either not awakend or something like that.

So this magic atm is wreckless and random.

Also the dragon king i do not think is a death magic user but if anything at all a life magic user. *holy dragon*

So in my opinion so far?

Fire-Dragon *Igneel*
Air/wind-dragon *Grandine*
Iron-Dragon *Metalicana*
Black-Dragon *unknown*
Holy/light-Dragon *dragon king*

What the dragonslayers might be is speculation, at the least they are destined to do something together, why the dragons dont interfere also unknown.
 

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Hmm how about : all the DS are just normal mages who were extremely powerful in their prime . They protected the world from the rampaging dragons who would have otherwise destroyed the world in their pride of being superior to Humans . They could consume and replenish their energy using their respective elements .


One day an evil mage named Zeref appeared . He had the old but classic multiple personality disorder . As the evil side of the coin , he created legions of Armys under his control to bring down the Magic society which at that moment was the bigger evil [or atleast according to him] so he went into the darkness and somehow gained some power that the mystics [DS] had stored which allowed initially gave them their powers .

Seeing as Zeref was too strong the DS were called upon for help . Being very old as they were , they seal the Zeref person , but were left too weak . So they tried to absorb as much of their element as possible . They overdid it somehow and managed to heal their body so much that it trascended the barrier of time and space . Becoming little midget pipsqueeks who go mama when someone holds them .

Now the Dragon King had been instated the dragon king by the DS who had defeated the old EVIL ruler . So to pay them back , he asked the Dragons of their respective elements so take care of 'em and teach 'em .

And them Fairy Tale begins . Oh ofcource , Lucy's mom was the only one of the ancients who didnt get so hurt so she kept a look on them and that the Dragons did as they promised . Day she died , the king did as promised and left the DS to do their own and unexpectedly , the Dragons [atleast some the them grew close to the DS who they once hated/feared/honored/rivaled] .

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Plot predictions :

Wendy is actually the same age as Natsu and Gajeel , she has been acting like al ittle girl coz no one would suspect her and giving info to FTs enemies

Yes i dont like over sweet ppl , Wendy should DIE [So should Meldy]
 

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Re: Purpose of Dragon Slayers

There are a lot of interesting theories here. :)
Does someone have a good idea as to why Wendy's age was included in her bio cover, but in Natsu's and Gajeel's bios they weren't.
I thought this was strange since Wendy is also a "real" dragon slayer, why only keep Natsu and Gajeel ages a mystery?
 

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probably cause she actually has a past (sorta). We saw her when she was recused by Mistogun and then given to the ghost tribe.

So since she is the freshest of the bunch... which also accounts for her inexperience with DS.

Where as when we saw Natsu... there really was no mention of him not really knowing how to use his DS power.
 

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I def like the theory about zeref and I think it makes a lot of sense.
 

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whats with the dragon slayers second names? igneel might have named natsu but where does dragneel come from or where does redfox come from ? why didnt the dragons named the DS like natsu igneel or gajeel metalicana ? maybe the dragon had some kind of connections with a human and they somehow gave birth to the DS and they adopted their human parents surnames? and maybe all of the ds human parent died when they were born ? imagine Grandine giving birth to wendy but unlikely lol
 

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Re: Purpose of Dragon Slayers

Their purpose? To kick ass and chew bubblegum, and they have enough bubblegum to last them for ages ;).
 

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Does someone have a good idea as to why Wendy's age was included in her bio cover, but in Natsu's and Gajeel's bios they weren't.
Uh oh, me thinks Mashima mades a boo-boo.
 

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What makes the Fire Dragon Slayer so special?

Besides of course being the main character in a shounen :P

Just seems to me that his strength is fueled by his rage / emotion, reflecting fire.

Wendy is gentle like the wind. Gajeel is cold as steel but solid and unbreakable.

Thoughts?

and hello! First night on the forums ^_^
 

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Re: Purpose of Dragon Slayers

If Zeref IS a DS, and his element is dark, then I'd say his personality of distancing himself from everything reflects loneliness and darkness. So yeah, it really fits his traits.
 

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http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v19/c160/1.html

Dragon force is supposed to be the power of a dragon and unstoppable AKA destroys everything. This is stated by Zero and his archive magic probably gave him that info.

Zero was completely owning Natsu, but that was because Natsu wasnt using the technique right until the end. But this also means that Zero is far stronger than Jella, who couldnt handle Natsu who wasnt using DF correctly at all.
I wonder if Makarov or Hades can take on that attack from Natsu?


http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v20/c161/5.html

and the next few pages show Natsu using DF corectly to completely obliterate the strongest spell that has been shown in the manga. Thats debatable of course, but it is definitely top 3.

It doesnt matter what spell is used on DF Natsu because Dragon Force has the ability to destroy everything (including any spell thrown at him) and anyone.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v13/c101/1.html

Wendy's dragon states that Wendy and Natsu had a previous relationship that was not to fond of each other, and that maybe this time around they will have a good relationship. This would mean Natsu and Wendy were most likely reborn or something into new bodies just like Zeref. Same thing with Gazeel.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v13/c101/1.html

Also they speak of meeting at a dragon king feast which sounds prety cool.

So if you compile all this information. Their is no doubt whatsoever that Natsu, Wendy, Zeref, Gazeel, and other DS were reborn into this world after some big incident.

I mean Gazeel and Natsu cant go through a barrier because they are over the age of 80( according tot he barrier). Zeref knows Natsu, and knows Natsu is the only mage that can destroy him. And Wendy's dragon states that Natsu and Wendy had a previous relationship and that they are going to meet again and hopefully their relationship goes better this time around.

I dont know if this info has been put together already or not before on these forums, but it does leave little doubt that The spell that is keeping Zeref in his dormant state is also keeping Natsu,Gazille, and Wendy in their dormant states.

My theory is that Natsu, Gazille, and Wendy will all get their powers unlocked when Zeref has his powers unlocked. Although it is wierd that Zeref is the only one of them that can remember the past. Maybe they did that so when he grows up he will know who he does not want to become? I expect that they will get 3xor more strength onces their powers are unsealed? It took 3 of them to kill a fake dragon, and even then they were out of magic power.

Maybe Natsu was able to draw on this power after he ate Etherion and the Flame of Rebuke? Maybe those 2 substances were able to temporally unseal Natsu's powers and allow him to use his Dragon Force? I also do not think that they will recover their previous personalities because they were sort of reborn. I think Zeref will remain the same, except his powers will be through the roof.

It does seem that if you review all of the information that Author has provided and hinted to, that Mashima is not pulling wins out of nowhere for Natsu, he has planned all along for Natsu to be the strongest mage in the manga. And According to Zeref Natsu might have already previously been the strongest mage in the world. Zeref is only referred to as the strongest evil mage in the manga, not the strongest mage. There is a big difference. I wonder who the strongest good mage was?
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EDIT: JUST FOUND THIS IMPORTANT DETAIL:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v19/c160/3.html

Doesnt it seam weird that earlier i said their powers would triple,when their powers are unsealed, and after Natsu ate the flame of rebuke he feels like his powers have tripled. I mean it took exactly 3 dragon slayers to kill the FAKE dragon in edolas, which i would think means they have at least 1/3 their power sealed away. It was also strange that Natsu had significantly less magical power than the fake dragon slayers and had to rely on secret techniques that he was taught by igneel to defeat the fake DS.
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I think It is going to be awesome if Mashima follows my theory :)... I was right about my Kuma/Revolutionary/Garp theory and it turned out to be 100% accurate........

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http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_tail/v06/c046/12.html

It seems That Ur didnt use half her power when she fought Natsu the first time and that Gerrard had some plans for him that did not include him fighting him in the tower of heaven.. Which means Gerrard knows there is something special about Natsu that also has yet to be revealed.

Also Urtear is not able to fight right now or even carry Zeref so she will be far worse than half strength when NAtsu finds her and defeats her. What will happen if or when Zeref is in the hands of fairy tail and under their protection? Will hades eventually step in and own Natsu and Take Zeref and leave the rest of the 7 kin to get arrested?
 
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Do the artificial dragonslayer's magic count as lost magic?
 

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^i doubt it could count as lost magic since it is a magic that was artificially created in this era not almost forgotten and such

Zeref and the black dragon being connected would be a really cooll and now foreshadowed plot twist.
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Does someone have a good idea as to why Wendy's age was included in her bio cover, but in Natsu's and Gajeel's bios they weren't.
Uh oh, me thinks Mashima mades a boo-boo.
or maybe Natsu and gajeel are either older than they look or reincarnations or had been put to sleep while wendy is a fresh new DS.
 

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or maybe Natsu and gajeel are either older than they look or reincarnations or had been put to sleep while wendy is a fresh new DS.
Nope, remember the talk between Igneel and Grandine? Natsu and Wendy know each other though they don't remember it, in the past, they hadn't good relationship.

On this topic, little cute Wendy - bad relationship with anyone? No way :D It's probably that DS grow up and then reborn/reincarnate.
 

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Nope, remember the talk between Igneel and Grandine? Natsu and Wendy know each other though they don't remember it, in the past, they hadn't good relationship.

On this topic, little cute Wendy - bad relationship with anyone? No way :D It's probably that DS grow up and then reborn/reincarnate.
Oh yes you're right then I gues i would go with the reincarnations or the sleeping for a long time we have seen it before so why not them


I was thinking what if the dragons were actually humans? and they need the dragon slayers to turn them back from thier curse? like that story oneshot Mashima once wrote with the main guy who was turned into a dragon and the girl who was a Lucy look alike
 
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I've been thinking, what if natsu is the only dragno slayer of the 3 we know of (natsu, gazille, wendy) that is actually over 80?

wendy's age has bene given.

so far its onyl natsu and gazille that hasnt, but the rune...it had two rules, over 80 and stone can't pass through. natsu is the fire dragon so he's obviously not stone or any earth element material...but gazille is steel...
 
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