Discussion Official Dragon Slayers Thread

[khaja_200923]

Re: Sting and Rogue 2nd gen slayers not 3rd gen My theory.

No, they were definitely trained by dragons, or we wouldn't have had Igneel noting them as being the creations of the white dragon Weisslogia, and the shadow dragon Skiadram.

you are right, i didn't understood what igneel was trying to tell until now. http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/293/22
but that doesn't solve the mysteries surrounding them of how they came in possession of dragon slayer magic lacrima of their same element. and their memory of killing their dragon parents.and who really did kill their dragons if they are dead in the first place. this thread can go only if the title can be changed to sting and rogue. i dont know how to change it. can it even be changed?

By the way... the poll options...

sorry! it's my second thread so i don't know what to put in polls.

 

[crimsonlink310]

Re: Sting and Rogue 2nd gen slayers not 3rd gen My theory.

Well in Sting and Rouge's defense, they simply might not have shown the 2nd magic yet or 3rd gen DS special power is the ability to go Dragon Force at will.

 

[SerpentTailedAngel]

If that theory thread got merged with the dragon slayers thread, can we possibly remove that dumb poll that didn't let you disagree? (The only person who even voted on it was the guy who set it up)

 

[SlayerKisame]

Why kill your dragon?

Can you believe it? Sting's been saying it for the past million chapters about how he killed his dragon. It's hard to think he (or Rogue) is lying at this point. But why? Sting and Rogue seem like good guys. They do put on a tough cover but they don't seem like jerks.

The dragons teach you magic and you go off and kill them? No remorse or feelings for doing so? Why even do that unless they were attacking you? So what was their motivation?

 

[sarutobi_sensei]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

Can you believe it? Sting's been saying it for the past million chapters about how he killed his dragon. It's hard to think he (or Rogue) is lying at this point. But why? Sting and Rogue seem like good guys. They do put on a tough cover but they don't seem like jerks.

The dragons teach you magic and you go off and kill them? No remorse or feelings for doing so? Why even do that unless they were attacking you? So what was their motivation?

Either to gain power, or because the dragons were already dying and they just finished the job ending their suffering.

 

[Tame]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

I don't think they killed a dragon who was fighting at full power - I just can't see it. If they killed their dragons, I think the dragons were weakened, not fighting full power or wanted/let them to kill them. As for them being good guys, they stood by and watched a guild mate be stripped and humiliated. Good guys my ass. At least Rogue questioned it.

 

[Impossibility]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

There is probably some backstory. There is obviously no way they actually took on the dragons in battle. Even seriously weakened, their dragons should've been too much for them. Let's think about it, as they are now they wouldn't be anything more than pests to any dragon. And they claim to have done it as kids, when they obviously would've been significantly weaker. My guess is that they did something stupid, and that act coincided with the disappearance of the dragons. And from that, they've come to the wild conclusion that they've killed their dragons. I, honestly, see no way they would've been able to so much as scratch a dragon.

 

[Bigfoot187]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

Natsu couldn't do shit to acnologia
Sting n rouge's strongest technique DF couldn't stop natsu
sooo ya really believe they killed a dragon?

 

[Darjaille]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

Natsu couldn't do shit to acnologia
Sting n rouge's strongest technique DF couldn't stop natsu
sooo ya really believe they killed a dragon?

Well Sting and Rogue really believe that they did. Now if it was only some genjutsu...

I wouldn't really bring pre-timeskip Natsu up though.

 

[dragons4life]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

Well i think that their minds were manipulated, including their dragons, but Weisslogia broke through the manipulation and freed Skypeah as well from his manipulation but couldn't make it in time to break Sting and Rogue, and because Sting and Rogue were their sons, they couldn't bear themselves to kill their own child so they killed them and the mind manipulation spell is still active today and they believe that what they did was right, but it wasn't.

Just a tiny little theory

 

[SerpentTailedAngel]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

My guess is that they did something stupid, and that act coincided with the disappearance of the dragons. And from that, they've come to the wild conclusion that they've killed their dragons. I, honestly, see no way they would've been able to so much as scratch a dragon.

I'm not sure how likely that is. I always figured they grew up together and maybe conspired to kill their (elderly) parents or were there when the dragons were seriously injured and had to put them out of their misery, but Rogue isn't even in the background of the flashbacks. It made me think that maybe the dragons planned something. Like Weisslogia and Skiadrum both decided to try and raise humans who could overpower dragons, then the two were put to the test and because they wanted them to succeed, they let them. Rogue and Sting then met because they heard about one another bragging about having killed a dragon parent who had seemingly betrayed them and been defeated... if that makes any sense. I may have done a bad job explaining it.

Well, it wouldn't have to be exactly like that, but I was thinking of something along those lines.

 

[Roman]

It's obvious, guys. The young punks are just confused. Just how they were confused thinking they'd own Natsu and Gajeel. There is certainly more to "we killed our dragons with our bare hands" story. There was a situation with a lot of variables which ended with that as their knowledge. But I seriously doubt they killed their masters, specially now that Natsu kicked their douche ass all over the place.

 

[Jirachier]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

Natsu couldn't do shit to acnologia
Sting n rouge's strongest technique DF couldn't stop natsu
sooo ya really believe they killed a dragon?

True but just like dragon slayers are on a different level from each others dragons must also not be all of the same strength and my guess is, Acnologia and Igneel are the 2 strongest.

 

[hoeru]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

Natsu couldn't do shit to acnologia

Yeah... Like how much time was left between him winning over Hades and Acnologia appearing on Tenrou? I didn't see Natsu charge Acnologia at full power, did you?

So how can this be any source for a serious discussion on whether or not Sting and Rogue killed their dragons?

 

[Rarhyx]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

New theory about DS, don't know if someone else already had the same idea, if yes then sorry.

1. Generation: Wendy, Natsu and Gazille are actually the "real" children from their dragons. But due some incident they got transformed into Humans or they didn't transform into dragons yet (maybe this will be happening soon).
Or it already happened but they didn't realize it because the duration was to short:

http://www.mangareader.net/135-56017-20/fairy-tail/chapter-194.html
http://www.mangareader.net/135-56261-4/fairy-tail/chapter-195.html

no one except the edolas king saw that.

During "that incident" some magic was spelled on them and they slept for 400 years/time traveled 400 years into the future/or whatever it explains why zeref knows Natsu but not vice versa.

2. Generation: Just Dragon Lacryma implanted into human bodys. And after some time the dragon lacryma is actually fusing with the human body and the human gets dragon like power but ofc he won't be as strong as the first generation without special training. And the human body gets also the dragon weakness:

http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/276/12

3. Generation: Rogue and Sting are actually humans but they got Dragon lacryma implanted in their bodys and were trained by dragons, so they could become stronger then the second generation.

http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/293/21

I think Rogue and Sting where fighting/training with their dragons on 7/7/777 then suddenly the dragons disappeared and those idiots now think they killed them

Yeah... Like how much time was left between him winning over Hades and Acnologia appearing on Tenrou? I didn't see Natsu charge Acnologia at full power, did you?

So how can this be any source for a serious discussion on whether or not Sting and Rogue killed their dragons?

and you think ~10 year (or less) kids could kill dragons?
this isn't naruto where 10 year old children are genius at fighting

acnologia was attacked by the strongest ft members and still got no scratch.

 

[hoeru]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

and you think ~10 year (or less) kids could kill dragons?
this isn't naruto where 10 year old children are genius at fighting

Reread my post again, please, and more closely. I never said, I'd believe they killed dragons. A weakened Natsu who was recovering from a fight that depleted all of his magic power, simply can't be taken to prove that neither Sting nor Rogue were able to kill their dragons. It's simply ridiculous to use that as an argument.

BTW, I give a -somethingsomething- about whether this is Naruto or not or any other manga that isn't Fairy Tail in this forum.

acnologia was attacked by the strongest ft members and still got no scratch.

Are you serious?! It's because the only magic working against dragons is dragon slayer magic. We all read this in the beginning of the manga, which was repeated when Gildarts showed Natsu what Acnologia did to his body.

The only magics being even stronger than that and that could affect dragons possibly, without any confirmation are Godslayer, Zeref's and The One Magic. IMHO. And none of the FT members knew them.

 

[ca12nag3]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

Are you serious?! It's because the only magic working against dragons is dragon slayer magic. We all read this in the beginning of the manga, which was repeated when Gildarts showed Natsu what Acnologia did to his body.

The only magics being even stronger than that and that could affect dragons possibly, without any confirmation are Godslayer, Zeref's and The One Magic. IMHO. And none of the FT members knew them.

I dont agree, there is no basis to say that Godslayers Zeref or anyone else can kill a dragon. Its clearly stated that Dragonslayers can do this. Its not just powerlevel that determines a victory here.

Fire beats ice, water beats fire, etc etc. And then there is the aspects of dragonslayer godslayer and god knows what more. The point is its not just numbers that you need to look at.
We cant just put a mage on a gage and say he scores a 1000 points so he will always win from someone with 999 points and below. Since you forget inteligence, preperation and the aspect of the said mages power.

So come short you cant just say that a Godslayer can or cannot kill a dragon, proof first then we talk

 

[hoeru]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

So come short you cant just say that a Godslayer can or cannot kill a dragon, proof first then we talk

I'll make it bold this time...

The only magics being even stronger than that and that could affect dragons possibly, without any confirmation are [...]

I already said what you repeated.

 

[ca12nag3]

Re: Why kill your dragon?

I'll make it bold this time...



I already said what you repeated.

sigh thats not an answer, possibly and without any confirmation, look that way even erza,mirajane,makarov and all the saints could kill dragons. Since they are all more or less stronger then natsu&co.

Where is the basis to believe a godslayer can do anything against a dragon? Even Gildartz got whiped in 10 seconds. What you see as a possibillity without confirmation is Wendy getting beaten by a Skygodslayer > Wendy is the weakest of all dragonslayers, on top of that she was abandoned at the youngest age without even knowing how to roar. ON top of that! she is a healer not so much a fighter.
And for Zancrow that dude lost to Natsu so how can that typ of magic kill a dragon while Natsu cant beat Gildartz yet.

Where is that possibility?

 

[Alanious]

I guess all the questions or most of them will be answered in 300. I believe Fairy Tail has more Dragons Slayers to introduce, the graveyard says it all, so many dragons! we can assume that alot of dragon slayers are missing, and this could be the fault of 1 dragon slayer which probably still has to be introduce. It could be "The Dragon King". so pumped to see whats next