Discussion Official Dragon Slayers Thread

[GamerSkull]

I think dragonization is gonna play a key role for the development of the dragonslayers going forward. I'm not sure how the antibodies will be nullified but for Natsu it'll probably have to do with END. Wendy may become susceptible to it if Irene does something to her but Gajeel, Sting, and Rogue may have that happen to them through another method.

Dragonization is going to be a big factor in how Acnologia is defeated because the dragonslayers won't have enough accumulated power without it.

Laxus and Cobra probably won't have anything to do with something like this but I'm sure they'll have some sort of role in the fight with Acnologia.

 

[Marmalade]

I think dragonization is gonna play a key role for the development of the dragonslayers going forward. I'm not sure how the antibodies will be nullified but for Natsu it'll probably have to do with END. Wendy may become susceptible to it if Irene does something to her but Gajeel, Sting, and Rogue may have that happen to them through another method.

Dragonization is going to be a big factor in how Acnologia is defeated because the dragonslayers won't have enough accumulated power without it.

Laxus and Cobra probably won't have anything to do with something like this but I'm sure they'll have some sort of role in the fight with Acnologia.

Maybe Natsu could fight as a dragonized version of END. But that might be too over powered

My guess is that the antibodies just wear off at some point in the near future. Or that they grow incredibly weak, too weak to stop it?

 

[GamerSkull]

Maybe Natsu could fight as a dragonized version of END. But that might be too over powered

My guess is that the antibodies just wear off at some point in the near future. Or that they grow incredibly weak, too weak to stop it?

If that were the case, surely the dragons might have accounted for it when they were creating the antibodies.

I suppose it's possible that they were unaware that it could happen, but still... I doubt it.

 

[Brandish μ]

I guess its like this (speculation)

Dragonification=forcefully/unpurposefully turning into a dragon. Irreversible (losing control over DS magic)
Dragon Force=turning into a dragon but having complete control over it. The stronger it is, the more you transform. Reversible

Acnologia transforming into a dragon and back could be Dragon Force at the highest level possible. Igneel and the other parent dragons stopped the dragonification but maybe Natsu and co can still transform into dragons via Dragon Force.

It's possible that Acno has it different to Irene, and is much better at DSM like you've stated.

I hope there is an explanation (even if it's brief) about the difference between dragon force and dragonification. I've always been of the opinion that they are one and the same, but DF is just less dragonified.

 

[Arjuna]

The final battle between Acnologia and 7 DS is approaching.I don't think not all Dragon Slayers will be alive after fighting Acnologia.So who do you think will survive and die?


I think the ones with highest Death Flag are:-


i)Rogue-I think there is a chance that Rogue may die.This maybe in contrast to the future where Sting died but here Rogue may die to save Sting.


ii)Erik-Erik dying is huge possibilty.He had committed huge crimes in the past and he can redemn them by dying to fight Acnologia.But there is Kinnana connection which may prevent him from dying.


iii)Laxus-This is the most controversial part of my post.I humbly accept apology to my fellow Laxus fans.Even though i am great Laxus fan,i see some death flags on him.Makarov,when he casted FL on Alvarez troops said that he is doing this to save his children.Many of his children were shown but strangely Laxus was not shown.Add to this Laxus said to Gray he will save the Guild before dying.So what do you guys think?

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

The final battle between Acnologia and 7 DS is approaching.I don't think not all Dragon Slayers will be alive after fighting Acnologia.So who do you think will survive and die?


I think the ones with highest Death Flag are:-


i)Rogue-I think there is a chance that Rogue may die.This maybe in contrast to the future where Sting died but here Rogue may die to save Sting.


ii)Erik-Erik dying is huge possibilty.He had committed huge crimes in the past and he can redemn them by dying to fight Acnologia.


iii)Laxus-This is the most controversial part of my post.I humbly accept apology to my fellow Laxus fans.Even though i am great Laxus fan,i see some death flags on him.Makarov,when he casted FL on Alvarez troops said that he is doing this to save his children.Many of his children were shown but strangely Laxus was not shown.Add to this Laxus said to Gray he will save tbe Guild.So what do you guys think?

I also think Erik will die and Erik dying in the fight against Acnologia would redeem him. I remember that Laxus said in chapter 471 that he would protect the guild even if it kills him.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Will 5th generation Dragon Slayers have Dragon Force and Transform it to a dragon itself like Acno/Irene.

 

[Axiomus]

If they become powerful enough, yes. They probably won't though. Turning into a full dragon wasn't something that happens to everyone.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

If they become powerful enough, yes. They probably won't though. Turning into a full dragon wasn't something that happens to everyone.

What about DF.

 

[Axiomus]

What about DF.

Maybe. Can't rule it out.

 

[Doughboy]

Madmole said they have more members, I think we'll see 2-3 arrive in Draseel before Aldoron wakes up from his orbs getting destroyed. I didn't care too much about them but their elements were hella diverse like Kyria, sharp blades with hypnosis factor

Also from what we know only 1st & 3rd gen dragon slayers have been seen to use DF, 2nd have never while 4th are just mindless zombie soldiers. 5th gen it's up in the air but they would of used it if they could already

 

[GL_Nova]

When did the knowledge that lacrima made it easier to access dragon force get thrown out? It explained both Laxus and Cobra’s forms seem early on. An why the Twin Dragons could use DF at will, but it seemed like a weaker transformation. Really curious

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Madmole said they have more members, I think we'll see 2-3 arrive in Draseel before Aldoron wakes up from his orbs getting destroyed. I didn't care too much about them but their elements were hella diverse like Kyria, sharp blades with hypnosis factor

Also from what we know only 1st & 3rd gen dragon slayers have been seen to use DF, 2nd have never while 4th are just mindless zombie soldiers. 5th gen it's up in the air but they would of used it if they could already

We’ve def seen it from Laxus

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

When did the knowledge that lacrima made it easier to access dragon force get thrown out? It explained both Laxus and Cobra’s forms seem early on. An why the Twin Dragons could use DF at will, but it seemed like a weaker transformation. Really curious

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We’ve def seen it from Laxus

I'm more interested in finding out the origins of the Dragon Slayer Lacrimas then wanting to know if it lets the user have access to Dragon Force.

 

[Axiomus]

I'm more interested in finding out the origins of the Dragon Slayer Lacrimas then wanting to know if it lets the user have access to Dragon Force.

I always just assumed that dragon lacrimas are a bit like fossils. Under the right conditions, some of a dead dragon's magic power will crystallize. Humans find it, implants it in their bodies, and they become dragon slayers.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

I always just assumed that dragon lacrimas are a bit like fossils. Under the right conditions, some of a dead dragon's magic power will crystallize. Humans find it, implants it in their bodies, and they become dragon slayers.

Just to know can second Gen use DF?

 

[MangerDan]

Just to know can second Gen use DF?

So far no they can’t some people say yes, but it’s only because of the scales they get when they revealed themselves as dragon slayers.

 

[Axiomus]

Just to know can second Gen use DF?

If we're going by visuals, then 2nd gens had scales when they started using their dragon slaying magic. Some people argue that is dragon force. If we're going by when it's specifically mentioned to be dragon force, then no. 2nd gens were never outright stated to have dragon force. Though going off this standard, then Gajeel doesn't have dragon force either because the form he used against Bloodman was never stated to be Dragon Force.

I'm going to err on the side of caution and say no.

 

[GL_Nova]

If we're going by visuals, then 2nd gens had scales when they started using their dragon slaying magic. Some people argue that is dragon force. If we're going by when it's specifically mentioned to be dragon force, then no. 2nd gens were never outright stated to have dragon force. Though going off this standard, then Gajeel doesn't have dragon force either because the form he used against Bloodman was never stated to be Dragon Force.

I'm going to err on the side of caution and say no.

It’s more than just showing them though. There is also the massive power up we see exhibited by Laxus once he acknowledges going all out and first shows the scales. An we continue to see Cobra utilize this in tight spots even up to the Acnologia fight. It’s been a while, but it was originally stated that using lacrima gave them all the same abilities, and mentioned again when Sting and Rogue both could use DF so effortlessly that it was because they had lacrima, making it easier. I wish I had kept all those scans and interview stuff. I never thought this would be in contention so far down the line. Though since you also have people who claim Laxus can’t eat lightning because he’s never shown eating it, I shouldn’t be surprised. What do people think this was then? Grew dragon scales, massive power output, pronounced canines. What should we consider this as an alternative? For those who don’t think this is DF

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[Doughboy]

That still isn't officially called DF regardless if that method/form carries same properties of 1st/3rds, the examples show it's a 2nd gen trait when they use or activate their DS magic. God Serena's scleras would turn a dark bluish-black color while his pupils would be white when he was activating and using his DS magic, it's literally the same difference as when Laxus would bulk up with lines running across his body or Cobra hands would become like a poison dragon's claws.

Gajeel's case it's clear it was DF, the facial features not only resemble the other DS but the anime made it clearer that he was noted to feel like the last DS to do everything, last to get a cat, motion sickness, then finally last to get DF, inhaling iron particles from Bloodman's MBP to attain it. Until we see it in canon what you're saying is mostly in your head

 

[Arjuna]

I don't think second Generation have Dragon Force,i personally believe it(the scales) is similar to Gajeel when he grew Dragon scales in his fight against Natsu

Mashima has stated in the manga that First and Third Gen have DF,so if Second Gen has it why didn't he outright say it like the other two,the only possible explanation is they don't have DF.