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No it didn't. That's silly. It just takes Natsu a certain emotional state to activate. Just because the fight lasted 15 or so chapters doesn't mean it takes 15 chapters for that specific attack to charge up. That's like saying that it took Irene 11 chapters to activate her dragon form and swing her claws because she started fighting Erza in chapter 507 and took until 518 to enter her dragon form.

Could Irene and Laxus beat Natsu before he works up the emotions necessary to overpower them? Possibly. But those are scenarios. I'm just interested in who is the most powerful.
Whichever way you look at it, his FoE kicked in after a long period of fighting and him getting resurrected from the dead. Why would he use FoE on someone from the guild when it's the guild fire??

His DF on the other hand maybe, because it's now easier for him to access as we've seen since Tartaros.
 

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Whichever way you look at it, his FoE kicked in after a long period of fighting and him getting resurrected from the dead. Why would he use FoE on someone from the guild when it's the guild fire??

His DF on the other hand maybe, because it's now easier for him to access as we've seen since Tartaros.
Regardless of how long the fight went on before he actually used it, it's still more powerful.
 

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Regardless of how long the fight went on before he actually used it, it's still more powerful.
Yea I agree but he'd lose before he can use it
 

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For my list I'll just consider the original 7 DS.
#1 Laxus : Because..... you know... :worship2
#2 Natsu
#3 Gajeel
#4 Wendy
#5 Sting
#6 Rogue
#7 Cobra

On the basis of power levels though,
#1 Laxus
#2 Natsu
#3 Gajeel
#4 Sting
#5 Rogue
#6 Wendy
#7 Cobra

Again, this is my list and based on my opinion and judgement.
 

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Why are you guys underestimating Deus X machina wendy so much?
You know she is a 1st gen DS who is capable of using natural dragon force and high level enchantments!
 

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Wendy was so good actually. She was one of my favorite characters but then Alvarez happened and she became a deus ex machina.
Well, she is still my favorite thou since this whole alvarez arc was ruined by Plot sama!
Anyway i wish we got to see her as an adult (like a timeskip or sth, if only she wasn't in citrus)
 

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I feel extremely jealous, envious, bitter at the fact Laxus and Eric are the only generation that doesnt have confirmed DF, now that the 5th gen has it (ignoring 4th gen). Though Gajeel's was unclear...
 

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I feel extremely jealous, envious, bitter at the fact Laxus and Eric are the only generation that doesnt have confirmed DF, now that the 5th gen has it (ignoring 4th gen). Though Gajeel's was unclear...
Not sure why. We saw Laxus’ already. 🤷🏾‍♂️
 

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Any theories on the black dragon slayer knights? My personal theory is that they are alternate personalities that come out whenever the Dragon Eaters use their Dragon Force.
 

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Any theories on the black dragon slayer knights? My personal theory is that they are alternate personalities that come out whenever the Dragon Eaters use their Dragon Force.
Nah They are Group of 5 members. Each one is a Natsu who had slayer Acnologia in different timelines. After everything is dusted Natsu leaves FT to form the fire nation with them.

On a serious note, they might be like seven deadly sins each member having a certain personality taken to the extreme.

As for elements, I would go for Nether, Storm, Fire(strongest). As long it's not lightning I am fine.
 

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Any theories on the black dragon slayer knights? My personal theory is that they are alternate personalities that come out whenever the Dragon Eaters use their Dragon Force.
based on skullion and madmole reactions, and combining your theory, meaning someone will activate them not at their will? Maybe their guild master? At least it's what i got from you
 

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Any theories on the black dragon slayer knights? My personal theory is that they are alternate personalities that come out whenever the Dragon Eaters use their Dragon Force.
Skullion wouldn't have prevented Nebal from going Dragon Force then.
 

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Skullion wouldn't have prevented Nebal from going Dragon Force then.
Maybe they don't really care about eating dragon gods and they might be a bunch of very unsocial members in the guild.
 

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My theory is the same as @Axiomus, when a 5th gen uses DF they become like partial/mini dragons that lose their humanity and normal sanity. BDSK are basically the 5th gen that mastered their DF transformation while keeping their sanity, memories, and human characteristics. Maybe even able to change back into human at will.

I can't wait to see 5th gen DF, I'll never agree with the 2nd gen having DF convo, it's cap and bs to me but getting this confirmed and the reason why they can't use it is perfect, been wondering why Kiria didn't use it against Erza or even Laxus. I still prefer S12 > DEs but I'll be lying if they haven't caught my interest given their role in 100YQ
 
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