One Piece Mega Convo Thread

[Shasha23]

to my knowledge, every time the Strawhat Pirates divided into sub-groups, Zoro was never the leader.

Every time Oda shows are where everyone is, if they crew is split he will show us their location with a depiction of Zoro and no one else, and if it happens that they are split and Luffy is with Zoro he will show us the 2 of them, Oda will never show the location of the crew with another character if Zoro or Luffy are there.

In Sky Island the group that went to Upper yard followed Zoro's lead, in Fishmen Island the group that was there followed Zoro's lead to take over the palace, Zoro is commanding everyone right now in Onigashima, in EL Zoro was the one to lead everyone to defend the ship they wanted to use to get away, in TB Zoro was the one who told everyone they had to get Luffy's shadow back from Orz, etc.

 

[thedude]

I'm using a statement by Oda.

crew members vary in importance, will you give the same respect to someone who joined in chapter 1050 as someone who joined in chapter 50 ?

One Piece is fundamentally a story about circumnavigating the globe, obviously the navigator will be a central character

Post the statement then! I love when people say these things, maybe this time there will actually be an Oda statement, but usually there isn't...so post it if you've got it!

 

[LadyVados]

The straw hats are a textbook example of a 2 guys and a girl power trio that later get turned into a 3+2 5 man band when Usopp and Sanji arrive

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[TheSadFed]

You are right about it. Zoro is the captain, however, he is not acting on it because Luffy called dibs on it first.
Back in FMI, seems like he had the intentions to take over as the captain but considering that Luffy too had CoC, he didnt act upon it.
He is both inviting members into the crew as well as stopping them from coming back unless they act properly.

And, there is of course plenty of people who confuse Zoro for captain, rightfully, which never happened to any non-captain.
Zoro is either the captain or nothing and in SHs he chooses to be nothing. Same thing when he was invited into the Baroque Works.
His condition to join was if he would be the leader and since they denied he chose nothing - not joining.

Why you guys keep doing this?
This is so unmature, is not even funny.
Why you treat me like a “Zoro-fanboy”?
A lor of users here are too much stuck in this debate Sanji Vs Zoro, but i mean...is something for kids. Who cares about who’s the best?
arent you able to love in the same say different characters? Or is everything always related to strenght?

We are discussing, im not a Zoro fan and i never even thought any of the point you mentioned.
Zoro is not the captain. And he is not officially the cocaptain (as i already said)

but its ok if he is on the rooftop now together with Luffy and the others supernovas.

they were introduced as the “new wave”

oda decides to pick up zoro as he picked killer together with kidd.

thats it.

Other sh will join later? Probably but its not sure. Do we have to discuss about Zoro killing or being knocked by Kaido? Do we really need to discuss about him deserving being in the rooftop or not?

 

[thedude]

The straw hats are a textbook example of a 2 guys and a girl power trio that later get turned into a 3+2 5 man band when Usopp and Sanji arrive

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lol, sure. Post it again if it is an actual quote. Or give me a link to something official... I mean, it's hard to take seriously when you clearly stretch things "classic 2 guys and a girl that later..." Dude, later was the very next arc, and then the next arc, and that was literally withinn the first 50 chapters of the story. It was never "2 guys and a girl" as a long standing thing.

Post Oda's quote. Let me see it. Let us all see it!

 

[LadyVados]

lol, sure. Post it again if it is an actual quote. Or give me a link to something official... I mean, it's hard to take seriously when you clearly stretch things "classic 2 guys and a girl that later..." Dude, later was the very next arc, and then the next arc, and that was literally withinn the first 50 chapters of the story. It was never "2 guys and a girl" as a long standing thing.

Post Oda's quote. Let me see it. Let us all see it!

"Luffy, Zoro, Nami, for now, the triggers/detonators are gathered ...." Color Walk 1 (2001)

 

[TheSadFed]

"Luffy, Zoro, Nami, for now, the triggers/detonators are gathered ...." Color Walk 1 (2001)

If we think about it carefully Nami is for real a trigger/detonar.

 

[nik87]

Why you guys keep doing this?
This is so unmature, is not even funny.
Why you treat me like a “Zoro-fanboy”?
A lor of users here are too much stuck in this debate Sanji Vs Zoro, but i mean...is something for kids. Who cares about who’s the best?
arent you able to love in the same say different characters? Or is everything always related to strenght?

We are discussing, im not a Zoro fan and i never even thought any of the point you mentioned.
Zoro is not the captain. And he is not officially the cocaptain (as i already said)

but its ok if he is on the rooftop now together with Luffy and the others supernovas.

they were introduced as the “new wave”

oda decides to pick up zoro as he picked killer together with kidd.

thats it.

Other sh will join later? Probably but its not sure. Do we have to discuss about Zoro killing or being knocked by Kaido? Do we really need to discuss about him deserving being in the rooftop or not?

lol, I didnt expect that... Struck a wrong nerve I guess but you yourself said that you are thinking of Zoro as co-captain...
I never mentioned Sanji, who was always irrelevant to Zoro. I didnt mention the dome, Kaido or anything else you touched upon...
I elaborated why I agree WITH YOU that Zoro is co-captain and captain material.
Feel free to debate the points I made if you disagree with them.

 

[thedude]

"Luffy, Zoro, Nami, for now, the triggers/detonators are gathered ...." Color Walk 1 (2001)

That's not a quote, post a link, give us something to work with here!

And i'll still laugh at the ultimate proof. A color spread with some vague text that could just as easily apply to the volume the cover spread is on being used as some "well, this clearly means they are the three lead characters, and let's ignore the next 950 chapters that don't show this!"

 

[LadyVados]

That's not a quote, post a link, give us something to work with here!
let's ignore the next 950 chapters that don't show this!"

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[thedude]

So...it's not an interview, it's a heading on a color spread, literally the first one...and this is what you are trying to pass off as a "statement" about who is the most important? lol...sure. You keep believing that if it helps your fandom. I'll just keep following the actual manga...

(also...your link is just another post somewhere else without the actual picture with the text...you just linked to someone else saying the thing you are, and not to an official picture or interview...that's not how "proof" works!)

 

[Pirate Queen]

@Pirate Queen Even I didn't go that far, but some people have this view.

He's just as wrong as you were honestly.

There has never been a Co-Captain type role in ANY Pirate Crew in OP. Zoro 8s Luffy's confidant at the most. Can make decisions in Luffy's absence, protects the crew in Luffy's absence, but that what the role of a VA should be.

Sanji was actually given a Captain-lke role and the crew was even dubbed the Curly Hair Pirates or some shit. You wouldn't dare say Sanji was Co- Captain would you?

Its just nonsense.

 

[LadyVados]

He's just as wrong as you were honestly.

There has never been a Co-Captain type role in ANY Pirate Crew in OP. Zoro 8s Luffy's confidant at the most. Can make decisions in Luffy's absence, protects the crew in Luffy's absence, but that what the role of a VA should be.

Sanji was actually given a Captain-lke role and the crew was even dubbed the Curly Hair Pirates or some shit. You wouldn't dare say Sanji was Co- Captain would you?

Its just nonsense.

Dory and Broggy

 

[Pirate Queen]

Dory and Broggy

I stand corrected. Zoro still isn't the co-captain...

 

[goldb]

DeCalvan Brothers are co captains, previous giants before were also co captains. There are maybe a few more examples but Zoro is not one of them. His role within the crew is fine without needing that label.

 

[TheSadFed]

lol, I didnt expect that... Struck a wrong nerve I guess but you yourself said that you are thinking of Zoro as co-captain...
I never mentioned Sanji, who was always irrelevant to Zoro. I didnt mention the dome, Kaido or anything else you touched upon...
I elaborated why I agree WITH YOU that Zoro is co-captain and captain material.
Feel free to debate the points I made if you disagree with them.

Sorry mate, i thought u were kidding me.
I dont have any “reactive nerve”, is just the mood of the average new one piece fan = discussing only about who is stronger.

if you start this manga when you were 10 and now u are 30 there is no reason to argue for who’s better between zoro and sanji.

regarding your point, well. I think Zoro did so well arguing with other SH including Luffy to pay more attention in the New World so i do agree with you.

but i dont think he is properly deserving 360 being kinda if cocaptain.

i see him as cocaptain just for some key reason like beingthe “Defender” of the crew, being the character who’s taking more seriously villains and scenarios around him, being already a “wanted” even before getting in the crew (so making him the first popular SH and then the second/third after Nico Robin) being ambitious...

BUT, in the same time, he’s not a real leader as other said.

 

[hokageji]

Zoro is the first mate, no discussion needed....

Zoro would make a great captain, and we've seen glimpses of it but other than that, he isn't a captain, or a co-captain. And nor does he care about it...

 

[thedude]

Zoro is the first mate, no discussion needed....

Zoro would make a great captain, and we've seen glimpses of it but other than that, he isn't a captain, or a co-captain. And nor does he care about it...

He'd be a terrible captain, all he cares about is improving his swordsmanship. He'd be a lone wolf were he not in the crew, like Mihawk. Which is fine. But he doesn't have it in him to be a real captain.

In the crew, Jinbe would obviously be a good captain, and maybe Usopp and Robin? But I dont really think Zoro has it in him character wise, even if he does "lead" on occasion. So does Sanji, but I also don't think he's a captain.

 

[Ramen]

1) Zoro is the first mate and strongest of the crew after Luffy.

2) No, Zoro would make a terrible captain. Before he met Luffy, he killed pirates.

 

[Pirate Queen]

1) Zoro is the first mate and strongest of the crew after Luffy.

2) No, Zoro would make a terrible captain. Before he met Luffy, he killed pirates.

Can'tkillpiratesIfyouwanttobepirateCaptainMaterial