What if DD had droopy eyes?
We can't really judge from that shot, but if it's the case, it would explain why he wears shades all the time. It would definitely give him a weird look, or maybe even a sad face.
Yeah, I agree, though the artwork wasn't that bad at the beginning. The action scenes were quite powerful and the art was simple and goofy (pretty fitting), though it's inferior to the art later on.
I think that if another art style was used from day one, and Oda drew a tribute of One Piece with the OP art, no one would like it.
Lol why are we bringing this topic again? I don't think it would really hurt the manga if Oda wasn't responsible for the art for one chapter
Sure the art has become one of OP's trademarks, but the way I see it the art changed a lot from the beginning to what we have now. Can we really say what defines Oda's art? Other than the odd proportions, and some of the characters physical traits, I don't think it's that different from what we see in other mangas. One thing that I really like is the fact that not all characters look the same, but even then there seems to be an exception to that:girls. They pretty much all look the same. Heck even Rebecca looks a lot like Nami. Also it would be underestimating other artists, by saying they can't adapt their art style to OP. Each artist can see something different in OP, and picture the characters his own way.I was just talking of the possibility of it happening, in fact we can be sure that won't ever happen, because of how Oda handles his work.
lol, I was just commenting on how googlez felt about OP art. not about the one chapter thingy. The first image that was "branded" in our brains is OP with its Oda art so it's a normal reaction.Lol why are we bringing this topic again? I don't think it would really hurt the manga if Oda wasn't responsible for the art for one chapter
I think that's quite possible. It seems to me that a lot of these villains were holding into illusions, or instead of relying on their own strength they preferred to use underhanded methods. Crocodile wanted to find Pluto, Moriah used zombies, and now DD is manipulating people like a puppet master to get what he wants. Luffy, who is only relying on his strength and the loyalty and friendship of his nakamas, is the antithesis of that. He's constantly pushing his limits to realize his dream. I wonder how things would have turned out if Crocodile had a crew and decided to be a real pirate, instead of creating Baroque Works. He could have easily been one of the most powerful pirates. Same for Moriah, instead of going all emo and overeating lol, he should have started a new crew, he may not have been able to beat Kaido, but he would have still had some dignity, instead of becoming weak and relying on zombies to do the work for him.Just a little thought that came to me regarding these pictures:
and:
I still can't believe that Moria thought for a second that Oars with Luffy's Shadow inside would be enough to triumph over Kaido, let alone help him achieve the title of Pirate King, what a delusion. I think that Luffy, in a way helps villains, by waking them up from the delusions they trap themselves into and he does that by as much force as needed to get to their tough skulls. After that, they can move on to do better things in life like Buggy and Crocodile have been doing. That might be the reason as to why they seemingly don't hold grudges against Luffy when they see him later, as they on some level, realize he has done them a favor in a strange sort of way. This can be seen recently in Bellamy's case, as these villains don't necessarily believe the protagonist's ideals to be completely wrong, it's more of a case of them living in a non idealistic world thus they need to see the proof of such ideals and that proof is the good old might. This also ties in to Doflamingo's speech about the victors writing history or reality if you may allow me to say, so in a way, Luffy, the good protagonist substitutes the villains reality and force them to see his own through his titanic resolve. All of this he does subconsciously (of course as he is a baka), and is another amazing quality he posses in addition to what Mihawk described about his ally making personality. Another hero, could have simply killed the villains, yet Luffy crushes their evil and sometimes unrealistic dreams and goes on giving them the chance to rebound and choose other more grounded dreams. Except for Enel, that guy is beyond repair.
The following paragraph belongs to a poster from Arlong Park with the alias "Tangaroa", with minor changes.
Been thinking that Luffy is like a divine wind, punishing those who stray from the right path while leaving better crews in their wake.
Dofla, Crocodile & Arlong were trying to start kingdoms, Kuro planned to murder his crew and escape to the land. Moriah had given up on true nakama for automatons but after Luffy was finished he was left only with his living crew.
Foxy was using the sacred Pirate games to graft and he too lost all his gains. Lucci and CP9 faced him and after the beat down became converts. Don Krieg tried to run from the grand line and lost everything. Wapol impersonated Pirates, just as bad, but now knows not to do it again.
Eneru has an endless sea to sail
Now Crocodile has returned to the sea and he's moving forward again.
Buggy, who has never really changed has done nothing but prosper.
Probably not everything fits but it's an interesting way to look at it.
Yeah but his post pretty much meant that he didn't want to discuss the matter further. Since I think a lot of people are against that idea of mine, so pretty much everyone agrees that the art is part of what makes OP, even me to a certain degree.
Part of it but not the essence. Oda presents a certain ideal, an idealistic way of life (determined, mentally strong, free, romantic, unmaterialistic, following your dream without ever giving up...) which is represented by Luffy in all his traits, even his innocent, child-like behavior which can be over the top sometimes.Just a little thought that came to me regarding these pictures:
and:
I still can't believe that Moria thought for a second that Oars with Luffy's Shadow inside would be enough to triumph over Kaido, let alone help him achieve the title of Pirate King, what a delusion. I think that Luffy, in a way helps villains, by waking them up from the delusions they trap themselves into and he does that by as much force as needed to get to their tough skulls. After that, they can move on to do better things in life like Buggy and Crocodile have been doing. That might be the reason as to why they seemingly don't hold grudges against Luffy when they see him later, as they on some level, realize he has done them a favor in a strange sort of way. This can be seen recently in Bellamy's case, as these villains don't necessarily believe the protagonist's ideals to be completely wrong, it's more of a case of them living in a non idealistic world thus they need to see the proof of such ideals and that proof is the good old might. This also ties in to Doflamingo's speech about the victors writing history or reality if you may allow me to say, so in a way, Luffy, the good protagonist substitutes the villains reality and force them to see his own through his titanic resolve. All of this he does subconsciously (of course as he is a baka), and is another amazing quality he posses in addition to what Mihawk described about his ally making personality. Another hero, could have simply killed the villains, yet Luffy crushes their evil and sometimes unrealistic dreams and goes on giving them the chance to rebound and choose other more grounded dreams. Except for Enel, that guy is beyond repair.
The following paragraph belongs to a poster from Arlong Park with the alias "Tangaroa", with minor changes.
Been thinking that Luffy is like a divine wind, punishing those who stray from the right path while leaving better crews in their wake.
Dofla, Crocodile & Arlong were trying to start kingdoms, Kuro planned to murder his crew and escape to the land. Moriah had given up on true nakama for automatons but after Luffy was finished he was left only with his living crew.
Foxy was using the sacred Pirate games to graft and he too lost all his gains. Lucci and CP9 faced him and after the beat down became converts. Don Krieg tried to run from the grand line and lost everything. Wapol impersonated Pirates, just as bad, but now knows not to do it again.
Eneru has an endless sea to sail
Now Crocodile has returned to the sea and he's moving forward again.
Buggy, who has never really changed has done nothing but prosper.
Probably not everything fits but it's an interesting way to look at it.
Blackbeard is definitely a D., the main difference between Luffy and Teach's lines probably being that the Marshall D. Family betrayed the D. Clan during the Void Century. Teach's past is full of betrayals which also happen to be what Luffy despises the most and reminded quite often by Oda through the arcs. I don't think this is a chance.
I don't think so either. If anything, we'll probably see Blackbeard and Luffy fight at the end or have a second to last fight. They're similar in some ways, and different in many others. Luffy's MO isn't about power, it's about having fun with friends while Blackbeard wants power and fun.
I hope this is true, and that Oda goes with this. Blackbeard as a D is the biggest counter to what the D has been portrayed as. Two similar yet opposite personalities are destined to fight each other because of history and what each represent, as well as the actions of Blackbeard.
Whitebeard did at one point think Blackbeard could have been what Roger was looking for, if I recall correctly. But what sets Luffy apart from most pirates is that all it takes is a friendship for him to be willing to give his life up to help the person. He did not mind dying to save Vivi's country or bringing hell down on the crew just for Robin. Blackbeard however would not do any of that unless it benefited him in some way, which is why I think Luffy is one of those extremely rare Ds out of the Ds.
Blackbeard would likely do that and do it in a cruel way. He seems to be going after powerful Devil Fruit users and sapping the fruit from them, something that Luffy wouldn't do.
DoFlamingo does mean to cause harm to Luffy and his friends, which is why he has put bounties on their head, locked them into the Birdcage and earlier he used Ace's fruit to lure Luffy. DoFlamingo is pretty much after Luffy, even if it's because of Law's plan.
Like you yourself stated in your post without Law's influence Luffy wouldn't have a bounty on his head. Hell if not for Law then Luffy would have kicked Cesar's ass and left him on Punk Hazard and only due to Law's influencs Luffy is now wanted on DD's list.DoFlamingo does mean to cause harm to Luffy and his friends, which is why he has put bounties on their head, locked them into the Birdcage and earlier he used Ace's fruit to lure Luffy. DoFlamingo is pretty much after Luffy, even if it's because of Law's plan.
And why can't Law win the fight? Like you said, Luffy learns from his failures, why can't Law?
(And for the record, Luffy did lose to Crocodile fully aware of his powers)
Also the fight isn't even done, Luffy could still end up fighting DoFlamingo, or Law could win. We only have 1,5 chapters worth of fight to judge from, and so far it is almost even between them.
Last point, how much have One Piece really changed? Oda seperating the Crew is not something new. It is he has done in almost every single arc ever since Baratie, so it's not something completely new. Yes, Sanji and co. is completely out of the picture but IMO that's just for the better of the story, because with 9 main characters it's can be hard to keep focus which it already seems to be with, like you mentioned, Chinjao and rest.
So One Piece has in my opinion really only changed in the fact that it now focuses more on the story, rather than getting lots of "boss fights".
Yes, you are right. If Law weren't on Punk Hazard, Luffy wouldn't have been involved in a lot of the troubles that came with the alliance. But, it's not like the story would have changed that much, had Law not been there. The Straw Hats would still end up in Dressrosa, there would still be a tournament, Sabo would still be there, and so on. The alliance is simply a plot point that brings the Straw Hats to Dressrosa in the overall story of dealing with DoFlamingo, which we know was going to happen eventually.
Here is a bit of it. You can find all of it on apforums.Yes, you are right. If Law weren't on Punk Hazard, Luffy wouldn't have been involved in a lot of the troubles that came with the alliance. But, it's not like the story would have changed that much, had Law not been there. The Straw Hats would still end up in Dressrosa, there would still be a tournament, Sabo would still be there, and so on. The alliance is simply a plot point that brings the Straw Hats to Dressrosa in the overall story of dealing with DoFlamingo, which we know was going to happen eventually.
Also, from what we've seen from the past it seems like Whitebeard and Roger we're on rather good terms. Better than Luffy and Law are at the moment.
Care to share the source? Seems like an interesting article
Even if WSJ decided that Law and the other Supernovas should be introduced and that the story should be changed, I find it hard to believe that the decided what the story should be changed into. I don't think WSJ are the ones behind this Saga.
To be honest, all of your posts seems to be more about hating on Law rather than discussing the chapters/arc.
Obviously you are entitled to your own opinion, I'm not gonna argue with that.
But I am going to discuss it!.. In a thread of it's own.
Could you elaborate on that last part with the old generation having balls? Like you mentioned, they lost against the yonkou, so I don't see where you are going with it?
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I have to agree plus this arc been going on for to fucking long. I wouldnt be surprise if it goes until May of next year.
The worst chapter of One Piece is better than Assassination Classroom. I tried to read that manga twice and dropped it. Either way if the spoilers are true probably a boring chapter.
No, look at what you posted. It's Oda that comes up with the suggestion for new characters.
What I meant was that Oda would have written the story so The Straw Hats would end up on Dressrosa, even if Law wasn't on Punk Hazard. There would have been some other plot device. It's not like they were not gonna get to Dressrosa. Punk Hazard clearly sets up Doflamingo as the villian, with or without Law.
You don't know that. Law could have been planned to be introduced in Punk Hazard arc or maybe already at the Impel Down arc, but Oda thought that introducing him as part of the new character was better. No one except Oda knows.
