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not that fan service only applied to female characters only
Thought about it and forgot it... just look at non-crazy Madara, Sasuke, Minato, even Obito and Naruto now, all pretty boys/men from the end game.
 

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Naruto doesn't...like at all.
And while OP does have fan service, it doesn't rely on it. It feels natural. It's the same with Oda making dick and poop jokes.
Sexy no jutsu beats an enemy. Fart wins matches. Women's big breasts are the talk of the town, of course it does. I dislike the disproportional drawings Oda does wiht the female characters, but its rare it affects the storyline.
 

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Even Naruto aside there are plenty of popular shonen without fanservice, the now 2d most popular being one but also Toriko, Silver Spoon, Magi...
 

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Even Naruto aside there are plenty of popular shonen without fanservice, the now 2d most popular being one but also Toriko, Silver Spoon, Magi...
This. There are like, what, just two female characters in Toriko?:teehee
 

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Even Naruto aside there are plenty of popular shonen without fanservice, the now 2d most popular being one but also Toriko, Silver Spoon, Magi...
Magi sure does have Fanservice, the ones in charge of it are Aladdin and Yamuraiha, just like The Deadly Seven Sins' Meliodas and Elizabeth, that kind of relationship. Toriko has fanservice focused on homosexual people who it's kind of good.
 

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Toriko has plenty of manly fan service.:3c Every bodybuilders dream come true, eating, sleeping, getting stronger.
 

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FMA is the only anime I can think of without fan service, of the ones I have seen.
 

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Toriko has plenty of manly fan service.:3c Every bodybuilders dream come true, eating, sleeping, getting stronger.
Let's not mistake the manga itself and the doujinshi that are made from it.
To complete the list, HunterxHunter, Assassination Classroom : No fan service.
 

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This. There are like, what, just two female characters in Toriko?:teehee
Even Toriko has naked women being exposed to guys. >> Gourmet 120, Melk II. is exposed to Komatsu. So going by your number, 50% of all female characters in Toriko have been naked.

Assassination Classroom : No fan service.
Plain wrong: "Bitch-sensei" being tentacle raped in like the first chapters introduced seduction techniques to Koro's class. Total fan service.
 
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So one time is enough to be called fan service manga !! With such low condition I understand better where your "all" comes from.
 

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So one time is enough to be called fan service manga !! With such low condition I understand better where your "all" comes from.
Are you even reading AK? I just gave one example. Bitch-sensei kissing school boy, school girls in swimsuits, Koro being weak to porn magazines. That's definitely not one time, but actually pretty formulaic.

About HxH: Zazan wasn't fan service? Baise's 180-Minute Love Slave? Cluck's costume? Geru's overly large cleavage? Please... that's so not "no fan service".

About Toriko: Rin isn't actually wearing high-necked clothes, is she? Love's appearance after using Sei Pheromones? Yeah, only "one time".
 
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Are you even reading AK? I just gave one example. Bitch-sensei kissing school boy, school girls in swimsuits, Koro being weak to porn magazines. That's definitely not one time, but actually pretty formulaic.

About HxH: Zazan wasn't fan service? Baise's 180-Minute Love Slave? Cluck's costume? Geru's overly large cleavage? Please... that's so not "no fan service".

About Toriko: Rin isn't actually wearing high-necked clothes, is she? Love's appearance after using Sei Pheromones? Yeah, only "one time".
Fan service is not the reason for their success and they don't rely on it to make sales, maybe one shall remember the point of this discussion. Especially when in Toriko and Assassination classroom the art is rather anti fanservice. A girl in swimsuit every now and then cannot be called selling sex.
 

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Fan service is not the reason for their success and they don't rely on it to make sales, maybe one shall remember the point of this discussion. Especially when in Toriko and Assassination classroom the art is rather anti fanservice. A girl in swimsuit every now and then cannot be called selling sex.
*cough* doublestandards *cough*
 

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No different standard that someone who remembers every girl apparition...
 

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Oh boy...
It might be shocking, but there actually are girls with big breasts! If you don't believe me, just go outside. Seriously, it seems like anything remotely sexual, a kiss, bare skin, is considered fanservice. Should girls swim with pants and a shirt on? That's just dumb. There is bound to be some 'sex' in a manga, as it's like...you know...part of us kinda? But as long as you don't squeeze tits and asses into every cover in order to attract readers and make money with fanservice like Fairytail does, I don't see a problem with it.

Oda draws girls like this, because it's easy. Didn't he say that once? You guys should know.
Also, it depends on how you present it. In Bleach you have boobs talking because they take up the whole panel man.
 

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No different standard that someone who remembers every girl apparition...
Google and Wikia are my memories. It's not a big deal to use both and to find out that your hypothesis that those manga don't use erotic fan service is overly wrong. But you may go on and deceive yourself by laying back on "arts".

It might be shocking, but there actually are girls with big breasts!
I'm used to them. But I'm not as ignorant to say "my favorite serieses do not have any fan service." just to bash other series.
 

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Who bashes what ? I'm just saying that your arguments all successful shonen manga sells thanks to sex by giving titles which are successful without. I'm sorry but you will never me believe that Toriko sales thanks to a few apparitions of the only girl in low-neck.
And yes art has to be taken into account. Adachi is making 'fan service' shot, but given his art is it really fan service or rather his typical breaking of the 4th wall jokes ?
 

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Calm down guys, let's keep this fanservice topic restricted to One Piece. I understand the desire to compare different "fanservices" with the one present in One Piece, but that leads down to a perilous road of off topic and potential flame:p

Also on the topic...it would be good to note that relying on fanservice for sales, and "selling sex" as a natural part of any title are two different things...

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Who bashes what ? I'm just saying that your arguments all successful shonen manga sells thanks to sex by giving titles which are successful without. I'm sorry but you will never me believe that Toriko sales thanks to a few apparitions of the only girl in low-neck.
And yes art has to be taken into account. Adachi is making 'fan service' shot, but given his art is it really fan service or rather his typical breaking of the 4th wall jokes ?
I think this is where the misunderstanding comes from...

I never once thought that hoeru meant that all successful mangas are successful because of fanservice...he just said that every manga has fanservice...

I think it would be productive to establish what "sells sex" means, because that's where this debate started from, because clearely for some it means that a manga has fanservice, and for others it means that it sells because of the fanservice...
 

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and "selling sex" as a natural part of any title are two different things...
That's the important distinction.

Let's not mistake the manga itself and the doujinshi that are made from it.
To complete the list, HunterxHunter, Assassination Classroom : No fan service.
What are you talking about? Toriko has more than enough bare breasted muscly man all over the place, they just wont appear in men tanga. Just look at the last chapter... Melk. Love Shimabukuro, he's one of the few[Saruwatari, Tanaka] doing legs right unlike a certain Oda. :P

AssClass next arc is on a beachy island, let's see how much fan-serive it get's there.

Again:
Kenichi and Fairy Tail: Genre: Ecchi
Those other named: Not so much.
 
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