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Well those slumbering giants that Rocks mentioned have to be addressed somehow, as well as Shyarly's vision of Luffy at a wrecked Fish-Man Island.
The vision regarding luffy destroying fishman island is tbh easy to fit into the story IMO. Fishmen even have a giant ass boat that is meant to be pulled by sea kings to carry the entire population to the dawn. How loki gets to punk hazard is a more interesting development though. I suppose the easiest way would be for BB, having learned of davy folk from his mother, would give him a ride. Until things go south. The galley la folk kinda do sound like people loki would be fine with considering his chaotic side. Thinkig about it, it's extremely likely it was galleyla folk who built noah.
 

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The vision regarding luffy destroying fishman island is tbh easy to fit into the story IMO. Fishmen even have a giant ass boat that is meant to be pulled by sea kings to carry the entire population to the dawn. How loki gets to punk hazard is a more interesting development though. I suppose the easiest way would be for BB, having learned of davy folk from his mother, would give him a ride. Until things go south. The galley la folk kinda do sound like people loki would be fine with considering his chaotic side. Thinkig about it, it's extremely likely it was galleyla folk who built noah.
I don't think Loki would ally with Blackbeard if Shirahoshi turns out to be Loki's friend and Blackbeard kidnaps her.
 

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I don't think Loki would ally with Blackbeard if Shirahoshi turns out to be Loki's friend and Blackbeard kidnaps her.
That's kinda what I am going at. Given loki's background it's not strange to think he could see BB as xebec's successor. But also given his affiliation to shirahoshi and tentatively not being a scumbag any affiliation to BB could be short lived.
 

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That's kinda what I am going at. Given loki's background it's not strange to think he could see BB as xebec's successor. But also given his affiliation to shirahoshi and tentatively not being a scumbag any affiliation to BB could be short lived.
Loki admired Rocks because he thought he was Nika and thought he'd be the king who'd destroy/conquer the world. Loki would prob only admire Blackbeard in the same way depending on how much he lines up with Loki's interests. The lineage stuff is irrelevant at that point.

And actually, since Loki admires Nika, then it can be fair to suggest he'd follow Luffy for that reason, as well as having more freedom than anyone else.
 

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Loki admired Rocks because he thought he was Nika and thought he'd be the king who'd destroy/conquer the world. Loki would prob only admire Blackbeard in the same way depending on how much he lines up with Loki's interests. The lineage stuff is irrelevant at that point.

And actually, since Loki admires Nika, then it can be fair to suggest he'd follow Luffy for that reason, as well as having more freedom than anyone else.
The lineage stuff is definitely important. It also depends on how BB plays this of course. But a son of xebec inheriting his will is something that could be very attractive to loki. It all depends on how BB plays his lineage. It's worth noting of course that BB named his ship "sword of xebec" which I would argue makes it unlikely he isn't claiming some sort of inheritance from xebec. Let alone that BB's crew has made the point they are after "the world" which, whether BB knows it or not, means he is after imu's position and davy's promise. Now, I am not saying they will be long term allies because that does not seem like a natural plot development in any way but if word gets out about BB being xebec's kid and his goal then it wouldn't be strange for loki to find that very appealing.

To me it actually looks like Loki is being set up to be at odds with luffy. Not necessarily enemies because loki does not appear to be evil but likely at odds. Luffy is nika BUT he is the wrong version of nika. Loki believed in the destructive version of nika which luffy does not exactly embody and later on he made the claim that he would become the sun god. With that in mind, luffy's current status is at odds with loki's worldview.
 

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The lineage stuff is definitely important. It also depends on how BB plays this of course. But a son of xebec inheriting his will is something that could be very attractive to loki. It all depends on how BB plays his lineage. It's worth noting of course that BB named his ship "sword of xebec" which I would argue makes it unlikely he isn't claiming some sort of inheritance from xebec. Let alone that BB's crew has made the point they are after "the world" which, whether BB knows it or not, means he is after imu's position and davy's promise. Now, I am not saying they will be long term allies because that does not seem like a natural plot development in any way but if word gets out about BB being xebec's kid and his goal then it wouldn't be strange for loki to find that very appealing.

To me it actually looks like Loki is being set up to be at odds with luffy. Not necessarily enemies because loki does not appear to be evil but likely at odds. Luffy is nika BUT he is the wrong version of nika. Loki believed in the destructive version of nika which luffy does not exactly embody and later on he made the claim that he would become the sun god. With that in mind, luffy's current status is at odds with loki's worldview.
Even so, I don't think Loki gives a crap about the lineage, especially after he defended Ida despite her not being his biological mother. That was after he made fun of Hajrudin for not having "pure royal giant blood" too.

Mentioned this before, but I think Loki's relationship with Luffy would be similar to KId's. They're willing to work together, but they're not friends.
 

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Even so, I don't think Loki gives a crap about the lineage, especially after he defended Ida despite her not being his biological mother. That was after he made fun of Hajrudin for not having "pure royal giant blood" too.

Mentioned this before, but I think Loki's relationship with Luffy would be similar to KId's. They're willing to work together, but they're not friends.
Lineage plays multiple roles here. Loki had no love for his mother because he remembers her trying to toss him of a cliff. But he is also the heir to the nonexisting throne of elbaf and also was born mighty because of his parents who had ancient giant blood.

If BB comes out, declares himself son and heir of xebec and proclaims to have the same goals as him (directly or indirectly)... then I don't see how it makes sense for loki's reaction to this being "meh". Specially considering the hangups loki has about being born in the wrong time. Temu xebec is still better than no xebec. Of course, that's a different thing from loki being thoroughly unimpressed with BB after they meet.

Hmmm, I don't think loki is quite like kid. Kidd isn't some misunderstood soul, he is a murderer through and through. If given the chance he'd become a yonko like kaido or big mom, not shanks or wb. Loki on the other hand has more of a kind side to him even if he can be violent and brutal.
 

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Lineage plays multiple roles here. Loki had no love for his mother because he remembers her trying to toss him of a cliff. But he is also the heir to the nonexisting throne of elbaf and also was born mighty because of his parents who had ancient giant blood.

If BB comes out, declares himself son and heir of xebec and proclaims to have the same goals as him (directly or indirectly)... then I don't see how it makes sense for loki's reaction to this being "meh". Specially considering the hangups loki has about being born in the wrong time. Temu xebec is still better than no xebec. Of course, that's a different thing from loki being thoroughly unimpressed with BB after they meet.

Hmmm, I don't think loki is quite like kid. Kidd isn't some misunderstood soul, he is a murderer through and through. If given the chance he'd become a yonko like kaido or big mom, not shanks or wb. Loki on the other hand has more of a kind side to him even if he can be violent and brutal.
I mean, Kid can be kind as well, at least for his friend Killer since he showed concern for him after how he was treated in being forced to eat a Smile fruit.
 

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Did you guys watch the latest op episode? Joy boy's voice is really awesome. They made an excellent choice.
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I was about to post it. Love Depp
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Oda drew this

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I guess the announcement might be a new movie.
 

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I guess the announcement might be a new movie.
I was going to say that'd be fun, until I realized I have never seen a One Piece movie and probably never will, lol.
 

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I was going to say that'd be fun, until I realized I have never seen a One Piece movie and probably never will, lol.
I try to like them. I really do but the plots are just so bad
 

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I try to like them. I really do but the plots are just so bad
Yeah, I usually just don't feel like sitting through them.

I watch the trailer then the fight highlights and call it a day.
 

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Yeah, I usually just don't feel like sitting through them.

I watch the trailer then the fight highlights and call it a day.
I will say each one has its highlights for sure. Any of the supplemental info pertinent to canon is always good like Shiki or the fact that Shanks can neutralize CoO and is a Figarland or that Raftel was actually "Laughtale"
 

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I try to like them. I really do but the plots are just so bad
Yeah, I usually just don't feel like sitting through them.

I watch the trailer then the fight highlights and call it a day.
I say this as someone who agrees almost entirely about shonen anime movies like these: Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island (movie 6) is absolutely incredible and I highly recommend it. If you don't know the name Mamoru Hosoda, you should. That guy is a legendary director
 

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I was going to say that'd be fun, until I realized I have never seen a One Piece movie and probably never will, lol.
I enjoy watching the movies even though I know they aren’t canon. You should give them a try too; they’re really fun to watch.
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I say this as someone who agrees almost entirely about shonen anime movies like these: Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island (movie 6) is absolutely incredible and I highly recommend it. If you don't know the name Mamoru Hosoda, you should. That guy is a legendary director
I love that movie. It’s one of my all-time favorites. It’s also pretty creepy.
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I guess the announcement might be a new movie.
That’s what people generally say. Some also suggest it might be a God Valley movie. While I personally don’t think it’s going to be God Valley, I’ll still post a fan-made cover that was created for it. It’s very cool.


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Does anyone here play One Piece games? I don’t usually play them, but I really enjoyed World Seeker and especially One Piece Odyssey. Odyssey was the standout for me. I played it on PS4, but I stopped when I reached Enies Lobby. I’m thinking of buying it again for PS5.
 

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So when did garp and chinjao originally fight? By all appearances garp was already a monster by the time of the god valley incident but on the other hand he seemed to have put quite a bit off effort into being able to defeat chinjao. He levelled a mountain with his bare fists to match chinjao's headbutt. I am not sure if garp's beard is supposed to tell us a timeframe since garp could simply have shaved or not at different times.
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Ok, so while I am rather ambivalent to the BB/buggy sibling theory I took a look at their birthdays and this is how they fit together:

BB was born on the year 1501 on august 3 (I am using the OP wiki for the years).

Shank's birthday is listed as march 9th. Meaning the year 1502.

And buggy's birthday is year 1502 on august 8.

The god valley incident took place the year after shanks and shamrock were born. And buggy is 5 months younger than shanks. This means that by the time the incident happened buggy was already born. Given that we don't see xebec's wife alongside buggy during the incident it would mean that for buggy and BB to be related buggy would need to have had a different mother than BB.
 
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