Is Foxy (Foxy pirates crew) stronger than them? His power is crazy strong. But other than that one power, he is incredibly weak.
Foxy cheated by setting the stage to his ship, full of traps that someone like Luffy could fall for.
Foxy is certainly stronger than his bounty suggests, possibly stronger than Pre-Skip Bellamy, but I don't really see him get a much different fate had he faced Luffy on a plain space. In fact it is questionable wether the traps would have affected anyone as much as they did Luffy.
Other than that, I don't see how anyone in the Foxy Pirates could cause any trouble to the Strawhats.
Honestly, now that we know her fake arms are only as strong as her real arms, I think Robin's toying with the SH's was more catching them off guard, and Luffy, Zoro and Sanji would be able to overpower her moves like clutch.
The fruit gives her just much more power than Sanji has at that time. It is incredibly unlikely that Sanji could have one-shotted Pell at that stage, yes he would likely win but not as fast.
Sanji can't perform feats like Cien Fleurs Delphinium, and he also can't cut steel or the Giant Jack like Zoro. Sanji just isn't that impressive before Enies Lobby.
So many people have stronger powers than Luffy. Luffy is still stronger th them because of all aspects of his strength.
Yeah but what does this prove?
As for the static trio, i didn't say it made them the same power level. I'm on record as saying Luffy > Zoro >= Sanji. (Zoro stronger, but not by much). It's been static in that this trio, in that order, has remained since Sanji joined the crew. Even when Robin joined, Sanji and Zoro fought together in the Foxy pirate battle against the strongest crew members. they then fought the strongest members of CP9 (after Lucci of course). There has never been an instant where they weren't 2/3 in power, until right now, and I suspect that they'll both be stronger than Jinbe or equal to him by the end of Wano.
Sanji would need Super Sayan to catch up with Jinbe.
Jinbe's feats are just too good. He has among the best vs Yonko and vs Admiral feats in the series. Right now he is definitely above Zoro as well.
I honestly don't think having the LZS power trio or not has any impact on the plot. It simply doesn't matter and does not make the story any better or worse. It also has no impact on the rivalry between Zoro and Sanji.
Zoro being disappointed in Sanji for leaving doesn't say anything about their power levels. It says something about his view of leaving the crew. But like I said, Zoro's the one who said not to worry about the crew, Sanji was with them. When Luffy says he's going after Sanji because he's as strong as 1,000 men, Zoro sulks and says then he is worth 10,000. Their strength rivalry is there, Oda writes it in all the time, still to this day. When they are coming back from WCI, Sanji's new bounty is referenced explicitly in relation to Zoro's, as he childishly crows about having a higher one now.
A rivalry based on conflicting personalities does not make them equals in terms of strenght.
I don't know what more to say on this topic. Oda isn't even remotely subtle about it.
The question is, not subtle with what? That Zoro and Sanji have a rivalry? Yes, that's pretty obvious. That Zoro and Sanji are both strong? That's pretty obvious, too. That Zoro and Sanji are about equal in strenght? That is never strongly implied in the Manga, quite the opposite. The only comparable feat is defeating opponents of equal strenght during Enies Lobby, but Oda showed undeniably that Zoro is much stronger during Thriller Bark.
I think Usop vs Nami would be a stalemate. They are both creative fighters who think on their feet. I'm hoping they get physically stronger, CoA haki is necessary. Usops showing vs Trebol was not good at all. I think his dad is more of a frontline fighter, so Usop will have to improve to match him in the future. I'd like to see Nami learn haki so she could use her staff as a weapon as well, like Vergo, but obviously she'll never be as strong as him. Just so they all have something else in their arsenals.
Yeah I also can't say who would win between Nami and Usopp, but Chopper would beat them both.
However overall I think Nami can be currently considered the strongest, simply because her destructive power is on another level. Usopp couldn't knock out that many Charlotte Children (who are all probably stronger then Lola/Chiffon who are both already quite tough) at once.
Chopper could brawl with them for a while and likely knock some of them out but end of the day they would outnumber him.
However I think all three are currently fine in terms of power-scaling. If the endgame is Augur/Q/Devon, I can definitely see this happening.
Let's not discuss Sanji/Zoro too much. Comparing them with Robin is kinda interesting but comparing them with each other, I think we had enough of that
