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Are these hints fake? Not Nika DF seems plot hole.
 

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No hints no chapter this week?
 

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Still too early.. even 4 hints i guess
 
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There is no chapter this week.
Hints will drop next week on Tuesday
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There is no chapter this week.
Hints will drop next week on Tuesday
 

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So Spoilers probably on Tuesday next week?
Yeah, if you check Tree of knowledge you see that it was exactly the same last year, so I daresay briefs on Tuesday
 

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Why were you thinking it was the Nika fruit when the Nika fruit was never in the Elbaf chest
Did we know for sure that it wasn't? Thought it being Nika DF seemed plausible all along, though I wouldn't call it a plot hole that it wasn't.
 

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Did we know for sure that it wasn't? Thought it being Nika DF seemed plausible all along, though I wouldn't call it a plot hole that it wasn't.
Because its keep saying Loki already eat it, even if Loki not really eat it, how can Nika fruit will be in east blue in that circumtances?
 

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First we need to absolutelly make sure that Nika said in Elbaf is the same Nika that the legends tell outside Elbaf, then, if the fruit that Luffy eat in fact is the same of that legends, maybe there's some other circunstances that make Elbaf believe that Nika is other "person"
 

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Did we know for sure that it wasn't? Thought it being Nika DF seemed plausible all along, though I wouldn't call it a plot hole that it wasn't.
Loki was said to have eaten the Devil Fruit. How could he have it if Luffy already had it? lol
 

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Loki was said to have eaten the Devil Fruit. How could he have it if Luffy already had it? lol
Given all the misinformation about all of Loki's deeds it wasn't too far fetched that he got the blame for the treasured DF's disappearance even if WG were the ones who took it. Obviously once we actually saw he did eat it, the possibility of it being Nika fruit was out the window, but up to that point him simply taking the blame for it seemed plausible enough...
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Because its keep saying Loki already eat it, even if Loki not really eat it, how can Nika fruit will be in east blue in that circumtances?
I think the general idea of it being the Nika fruit was that the WG used Harald to gain access to Elbaf's castle (through pentagram) and steal the DF - or even Harald being influenced to give it to them - and then Loki got the blame for stealing it, maybe letting ppl think he did to cover for Harald's negligence/crimes and at the same time instilling more fear and respect. (Basically the way he led life up to that point, being a scapegoat.)

Then Shanks stole the fruit from the WG. AFAIK we have no idea where this happened, only that Shanks had it in East Blue (my headcanon has always been that he was there for so long because he was looking to give it to Roger's son).

Honestly besides the final part - which isn't really related - I was never a diehard follower of this theory so idk why I'm even putting in all this time to defend it... :XD Guess maybe I just felt the need to explain why I thought it at least made sense.
 
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Given all the misinformation about all of Loki's deeds it wasn't too far fetched that he got the blame for the treasured DF's disappearance even if WG were the ones who took it. Obviously once we actually saw he did eat it, the possibility of it being Nika fruit was out the window, but up to that point him simply taking the blame for it seemed plausible enough...
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I think the general idea of it being the Nika fruit was that the WG used Harald to gain access to Elbaf's castle (through pentagram) and steal the DF - or even Harald being influenced to give it to them - and then Loki got the blame for stealing it, maybe letting ppl think he did to cover for Harald's negligence/crimes and at the same time instilling more fear and respect. (Basically the way he led life up to that point, being a scapegoat.)

Then Shanks stole the fruit from the WG. AFAIK we have no idea where this happened, only that Shanks had it in East Blue (my headcanon has always been that he was there for so long because he was looking to give it to Roger's son).

Honestly besides the final part - which isn't really related - I was never a diehard follower of this theory so idk why I'm even putting in all this time to defend it... :XD Guess maybe I just felt the need to explain why I thought it at least made sense.
Obviously it wasnt Nika,,,by the simple Fact luffy have it already- he is the one who eaten it, so whateaver Loki eat,,, it wasn´t it- it is Pure Logic

Short resume = it couldnt have been the Nika fruit cause it is Luffy the one who eat it and is using it.
 

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But Luffy hadn't eaten his fruit at the time this one was taken, and in this scenario Loki didn't ea– ugh, nevermind. I don't have the energy to explain the reasoning anymore, for a theory that's dead and buried anyway. :XD
 

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We don't know where the Nika df is right now. It was just assumed that it'd be on Elbaph. But since I haven't seen who's who or CP agents, the one Shanks took it from, on the island I don't think it's here.
 

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I am quite surprised Oda decided to make it another DF mythological zoan. I thought he was ready to explain how the fruit evaded the WG for 800y and he had already reconnected Elbaf to Shanks and we know Shanks chasing Nika from WG is close after the Harald death incident. Oda will have to build everything from scatch again to explain Shanks chasing Nika all the more that Shanks will have already left the God’s Knight by this time.
 

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I am quite surprised Oda decided to make it another DF mythological zoan. I thought he was ready to explain how the fruit evaded the WG for 800y and he had already reconnected Elbaf to Shanks and we know Shanks chasing Nika from WG is close after the Harald death incident. Oda will have to build everything from scatch again to explain Shanks chasing Nika all the more that Shanks will have already left the God’s Knight by this time.
I'd be surprised if it was actually the Nika fruit. I mean, it could be a Nika, assuming Nika has twins/siblings and Oda decides to name them all the same, but if he were to tell the story you mentioned, we'd have to learn about how the fruit went into circulation 800 years ago, so the Void Century conflict.

We're probably closing in on it, but Oda pretty much confirmed the existence of other deities with the Harley, the introducing them should come first.
 
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