Discussion Re-write the Alvarez Arc

Would you change the Alvarez arc?

  • Not at all

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  • Minorly

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  • Moderately

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Takuan

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The Alvarez Rewrite - Chapter 3

The majority of you chose one chapter every two days, so that's how we'll roll!
Last time the chapters were mostly about creating a proper opening to the rewrite, I'd say it's the single sequence that has been altered the least. This week though, we're starting off with a lot more changes!
@Takuan and @Globear , do you two (and anyone else interested) want to be tagged whenever I post a new chapter?
You can check all the available chapters of the rewrite at https://oharalibrarian.imgur.com/ ! Thanks for reading!
Yeah sure, thanks! =)
I'll keep your imgur page in my favourites, since im sometimes a derp and miss notifications on the forums. I'll be following your work closely :popcorn
 

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1. major main character deaths (Gray and Natsu dying )

2. Gray was supposed to be villain? yes Darkness gray switching Zeref forces

3. Warrod vs Ajeel all the wasted potential...Warrod stopped deserts from spreading :cheez:cheez this is perfect counter against ajeel

4.Natsu Laxus and Makarov vs Yuri Dreyar... what is more enjoyable than seeing Natsu being stomped in the ground without any effort?
Yuri defeats the trio quite easily, Makarov is barely conscious and wants to ask why Yuri has returned, Yuri reveals that his true goal is defeating Zeref:oooh:oooh

6. Yakuma war Gods is introduced
7. God Serena is Yuri Dreyar student... no wonder God Serena has become the strongest saint right???
8. Gray vs Natsu everyone desperately wants to see it
9. Bluenote is released in the prison so he can go all out against Alvarez forces and wreak some havoc
10. Acnologia is still hiding in his man cave and dont come out
11. 6-10 saints is introduced.... Warrod.Wolfheim.and Hyperion invidually are powerful enough to defeat spriggans..:kamina:kamina
12. Mavis personally i dont like this character so she can go and disappear forever:shin:shin
 

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1: Wahl is Belno's son, and Gajeel is the one to fight him. After having his ass kicked, Gajeel is on the ground, takes a look at Wahl, remembers Belno's description of her son, and tells Wahl about her death. We get a single panel of Wahl being shocked and actually caring for a moment, before he brushes it off and goes back to normal, takes on a transformation again, and punches Gajeel. Gajeel bites his hand off, eats the metal, and goes into DF.

2: The Gods of Ishgar's battle with God Serena is actually shown, and isn't as much of a stomp as it appears, with him mostly enduring their attacks and countering when available, Warrod is a valued support, Jura offers most of their ranged damage, Wolfheim is the close range, while the random vampire dude O can never remember acts as a general disabler and nuker. The fight stretches over a long time, constantly going back every chapter or two to give us updates, However, he never uses his DS magic until the end, when it does go full stomp, instead using whatever lightning magic he was shown using in that one panel where his hands sparking and he's laughing at them. THEN it goes into the stomp we all know about.

3: Instead of simply learning and countering all magic, August absorbs the magic of the dead, as shown by his line about Serena living on in him. August only fights the Crime Sorcier's underling members, not Jellal, and uses some of the magic Brain used on them. After fighting Gildarts, he goes on to fight Laxus and Jellal together, struggling a little more due to being speed blitzed, though in the end he still wins. Goes around the battlefield taking out members of FT systematically, before surrendering after Zeref's defeat, seeing no reason to go on anymore.

4: Dimaria permanently loses her God Takeover abilities due to Chelia's attack, and instead goes on to show her swordsmanship we saw briefly. Has a fight with Brandish, where we get a little comedy involved where Brandish shrinks them and they fight on Lucy's chest before Lucy breaks them up.

5: Instead of just being a Tartarus smoothie, Bradman's power is based off of a lesser version of Zeref's, being imprinted on a child in an attempt for him to push the Ankhseram curse out of himself and into them. Laxus fights him, and his condition from the MBP's plus the curse of Zeref only makes it worse on him.

6: Rogue's Shadow comes into play, revealing itself to be the lost lives Ankhseram took, granting power to those on the brink of darkness. When Makarov dies, in a much more dramatic and brutal fashion than he actually did, Laxus is temporarily corrupted by the Shadow, but he subdues it and makes it's power into his own, the Shadow curing him of his illnesses in exchange for letting him be a host.

7: Mirajane uses more of her absorbed demon powers than just Algeria.

8: Irene's two underlings are still swords, but use light and darkness powers instead, and fight Sting and Rogue. It goes relatively even, until they unveil that they had copied Natsu's LFDM and show their HSDM's and then beat them down.

9: Neinheart brings back the Nine Demon Gates to fight for him, with Gray taking them on, defeating them all one by one.

10: Erza doesn't dispel the Historia group with some angry glare, she actually has to fight them all together, losing in the end, but Kagura steps up and finishes the fight.

11: Jellal uses the whole barrage of attacks he wasted on Acnologia on Neinheart, and finishes with Grand Chariot, sending him crashing into the sea floor and fracturing it.

There's about fifty others but that'd take too long.
 

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Wahl is Belno's son, and Gajeel is the one to fight him. After having his ass kicked, Gajeel is on the ground, takes a look at Wahl, remembers Belno's description of her son, and tells Wahl about her death. We get a single panel of Wahl being shocked and actually caring for a moment, before he brushes it off and goes back to normal, takes on a transformation again, and punches Gajeel.
This is good, definitely works in the general idea of the story and had some semblance of foreshadowing.
Gajeel bites his hand off, eats the metal, and goes into DF.
This though, nah. Slayers can't eat the elements they produce.
 

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This is good, definitely works in the general idea of the story and had some semblance of foreshadowing.

This though, nah. Slayers can't eat the elements they produce.
I think Errant is talking about eating Wahl's metallic hand.

Not his own hand.
 

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This is good, definitely works in the general idea of the story and had some semblance of foreshadowing.

This though, nah. Slayers can't eat the elements they produce.
I think Errant is talking about eating Wahl's metallic hand.

Not his own hand.
Yeah I meant Wahl's, don't want Gajeel getting that... :hip Metal.
 

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The Alvarez Rewrite - Chapter 4
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You can check all the available chapters of the rewrite at https://oharalibrarian.imgur.com/ ! Thanks for reading!
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The Alvarez Rewrite - Chapter 5
I can see some people doubting the choice of keeping the death at first, I have been told quite a few times to remove it entirely, but I feel that, at least in the way that I structured it, it's very integral to Gray's character arc and the plot as a whole. The main problem with the original is that it didn't have much of a reason to exist outside of generating a few feels (plus set up Natsu vs Gray), so here instead it serves a bigger purpose and has a lasting impact during the E.N.D. fight and the Iced Shell scene, not just as a plot point, but as a way to progress both Gray and Juvia as characters. It's just the start of a large character arc for Gray this rewrite though, which neatly ties up who he is as a whole for the entire series by the end.
I know some people will still say that we didn't need another fake death with Juvia, but the fact in itself that this is a fake death will be very impactful for Gray's character later on, so I feel that it comes off as a properly integrated and necessary part of the story here rather than just a fake death for the sake of being a fake death. Eitherway, you're the judge here, so you'll tell me how you feel about it when it all wraps up! Please read the afterword for further info!
@Takuan, @Globear
You can check all the available chapters of the rewrite at https://oharalibrarian.imgur.com/ ! Thanks for reading!
--- Double Post Merged, ---
The Alvarez Rewrite - Chapter 6
I can definetely see some people wanting Neinhart's defeat (and possibly even Invel's) being heavily extended on, but for the reasons I mentioned in the afterword, I feel that they feel quite integral to the story and changing them would break the flow in a very messy way. Instead, I focused on making them more justified and believable, showing that Fairy Tail is capable of coming up against Alvarez, but that the road there won't be easy. I believe it feels more like a mark of progress for the arc's pacing rather than just giving the impresison of trying to get things done with.

@Takuan, @Globear

You can check all the available chapters of the rewrite at https://oharalibrarian.imgur.com/ ! Thanks for reading!
 

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1. major main character deaths (Gray and Natsu dying )

2. Gray was supposed to be villain? yes Darkness gray switching Zeref forces

3. Warrod vs Ajeel all the wasted potential...Warrod stopped deserts from spreading :cheez:cheez this is perfect counter against ajeel

4.Natsu Laxus and Makarov vs Yuri Dreyar... what is more enjoyable than seeing Natsu being stomped in the ground without any effort?
Yuri defeats the trio quite easily, Makarov is barely conscious and wants to ask why Yuri has returned, Yuri reveals that his true goal is defeating Zeref:oooh:oooh

6. Yakuma war Gods is introduced
7. God Serena is Yuri Dreyar student... no wonder God Serena has become the strongest saint right???
8. Gray vs Natsu everyone desperately wants to see it
9. Bluenote is released in the prison so he can go all out against Alvarez forces and wreak some havoc
10. Acnologia is still hiding in his man cave and dont come out
11. 6-10 saints is introduced.... Warrod.Wolfheim.and Hyperion invidually are powerful enough to defeat spriggans..:kamina:kamina
12. Mavis personally i dont like this character so she can go and disappear forever:shin:shin
Isn't like sand magic counter to nature magic? Since most sand users are shown to be able to dry out land,water and flora?
 

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The Alvarez Rewrite - Chapter 7
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That was fantastic!

I'm really liking the direction of Brandish's character in this, it feels much truer to her attitude at the start without killing her development. I also loved seeing Brandish use her magic more effectively, having her compress the air was a good way to highlight how dangerous she is at all times. And while this was a somewhat small detail, you dealt with Neinhart perfectly! Overall, this re-write has been incredible so far.
 

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▪Less oneshots and fake deaths :-_-

▪less cringey Nakama speechs from both Natsu and Erza :shootme

▪Neither August or larcade are ever said to be Zerefs sons (this whole plot was totally uneccessary :-_-)

▪Mira vs Bradman instead of her fighting those two fodder swords lol :XD

▪Neinhart uses his wind magic thingie more often and doesnt just rely on his historia so when the historias were dispelled by Erza he gets an actual fight with Jellal and loses high diff instead of getting oneshotted :nah

▪Laxus gets more screen time and fights August with Gildarts instead of Cana

▪Lucy gets an actual spriggan fight with Brandish instead of that joke one

▪Acnologia vs FH Zeref happens OR Acno vs the 7 DS

▪Anna doesnt come back and neither does the BS,last minute introduced timelapse thing happen :epicfacepalm

▪The 4GOI arent shitted on and win a fight against a sprig or two

▪Natsu stays dead for more than one chap preferably forever :zomg
 

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As for things I would change in the arc....

Well, the first and most important one would be everything related to august. August was a character that got hyped to the point that he for whatever reason was ranked higher than irene, a bonafide dragon. I guess august would have triumphed with DS magic of his own but still.

As for irene, I would change erza being able to punch a meteorite. The manga wasted a potential emotional moment of irene noticing she was about to murder her daughter and sacrificing herself. Even if a flawed development, it would have been much better and made more sense than erza punching a meteor and then defeating irene.

Everything about lacarde was bafflingly stupid. Ideally he would be eliminated altogether. I mean, we had an apparent natsu nephew and the two didn't even meet.

Jacob I wouldn't change.

God serena... I don't mind him being finished by acknologia but it bothers me we never got to see him go all out. Instead we saw a fraction of his power go up against gildarts...

The 4 wizard saints... Come on, that was sad. They got easily defeated by god serena and then never appeared again. Those guys were supposed to be relevant.

Neinhert I would remove altogether. Nothing he did ever amounted to anything even vaguely relevant. We saw him defeated way too many times.

As for brandish, she has a cool magic but she hasn't had a single serious fight. She needs a decent fight....
 

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There are many things I would like to change in the arc...Mostly about fight
I think this arc went well until the end of Wendy and Sheria vs Dimaria. This fight was good as we can see Ultear's return. From there the arc gradually ruined

1. I am fine with the way Bradman and Gajeel. Many people say Bradman should be ended up fighting Mira, but that would be irrelevant if they try to counter each other by using the same technique. Besides, I really wonder why he had all the curse but Marco (but If he had it, Mira is the only person can fight). This fight Levy should have shown her second origins already since she was there received it from Ultear and never used it.

2. As for Mira, she was wasted off her potential. In my opinion, she should have fought Larcade together with the siblings. I would be like they are overpowered until she touched him and realized he is a demon and the scene will switch to Zeref said that he doesn't have any son. After she won, she would get the one and only Holy attribute demon soul, that would be so cool. In the second path, If the story went like that, Mira should have fought Ellen with Erza. They were only seen fighting with soldiers and that's it. At least, she could get her revenge on what Ellen did to her T.T She ended up with Jacob, oh well. I was wondering if she had absorbed Franmalth or not but that would give her a level up for absorbing power, no ?

3. However the major changes in Ellen fight, this fight should end like that (Mother- Daughter Love ) but just different pattern instead of illogical strength of Erza.

4. Sabertooth group would encounter Neinheart and fight the historia of Jenma ( do not know if Mira had eaten him yet). The fight will get some emotional scene, especially Minerva who return to LV1 when becoming a good girl, It was like she forgot most of her magic.

5. Invel's design overall was so cool until he draws out his final armor which kinda destroys him. I thought he would use some elegant magic but not that ==! The fight is okay, Juvia would have dead if Mashima was his old self as he claimed that Fairy tail will end happily ever after, otherwise, many side characters had died.

6.the big question in the arc is Effman & Lissana vs Ajeel. It ended with something like "It took 2 of us to defeat him". I do not know how they win with there power. Adding to that, Effman destroyed the guild and felt guilty about it, so this arc he should have been in the spotlight a little a bit but NOoo.

7. God Serena and 4 saints, I don't complain about it cause he was there to settle with them. but they should have some kinda background or something. 4 of the top wizard saints have been talking a lot in the series and they were terrible in what we have heard.

8. I did not see how August had died to come. It was like a flash and then the fight en. So weird.

9. Oracion seis ...

I have nothing to say to the story line. It has some good along with the bad, but most of them are bad like what is Anna doing there all this time, Zeref could extract FH himself why did he do it as he did not kill Mavis after doing that. The battlefield is like a running competition, they run around and around. This is the final arc, I have so much expected for this but whatever. Wating for the happy END
 

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Ah, mira, good point. Mira is a character that was originally shown as a rival to erza. And up until the GMGs she reasonably was that. But at the GMGs erza got second origin and mira didn't and she was clearly left behind. You had erza being able to fight kyoka, one of the stronger tartarus members while mira ultimately was no match for sayla's transformation. And then enter alvarez arc. Erza held her ground against ajir and with some help death the finishing blow. Then mira goes on to fight the irene's enchanted swords and only beats them after using her allegria which presumably is insane but lasts about 5 seconds. Then she beats jacob who had his eyes closed... Realistically speaking the notion of mira as a rival to erza is beyond absurd at this point. It kinda looks that by now she'd make a decent rival for lucy or wendy (she has dragon force after all).
 

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Wait, how are you going to present us a prolonged Brandish vs Lucy fight? (or i should say, how did you) Every panel of that fight was already used.
Anyway, holy fuck :gwahdidn't expect that with Brandish. Dayum :zomg
The poor Dimaria though... Did she die?
Hehehe... that's the true magic of the rewrite. You'll see
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The Alvarez Rewrite - Chapter 8

This chapter includes an incredible amount of editing, which nearly killed me, but it was worth it. It might not look perfect, but keep in mind it was done singlehandedly with paint. Also, while this might look pretty good already, I'm currently working on the Acno vs 7 Slayers fight and trust me, this is nothing compared to the upcoming fights this rewrite will have!
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@OharaLibrarian you've done an amazing work dude. :hi
I absolutely love the fact that Brandish was able to defeat Dimaria, while also keeping the Dimaria one shot on Brandish. Showing how they are just about equal, and that their hax are so deadly and instanteneous that the victor is decided based on who pulls the trigger first.
The Lucy vs Brandish fight was awesome. Added more feats to Lucy (who was already was impressive in the manga), while also showing the difference level between her and Brandish. Brandish also displays good durability feats.

Sorry about not responding to your quotes or giving enough feedback btw. A feedback is appreciated and expected when you do such a great work over several months. In any case, even when i dont answer or don"t read immediatly, i'll keep on appreciating your work.
 
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