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[yal]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO PICK VAGABOND? ;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;

 

[Not_Log]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

Well, he's free to translate whatever he wants, but we won't be using it so it's kind of fruitless effort.

 

[Alan Smithee]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

She... and even if it's not going to be used for a Edited Manga some people like to have the translation just to get a vague idea of what's going on and then of course download the strays release when it's out.

 

[Not_Log]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

Bothering to look at symbols is too much effort for me when I'm just here to tell my staff to shut up.

 

[yal]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

Oh, and please don't get me wrong. It's great that you translate, really.
It's just that there are tons of untranslated/stopped series out there, which are SO awesome and so many groups are in the need for translators that you might want to consider translating some other series.
Keep up the good work! Just on another series please! :S

 

[Krizy]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

With all due respect, in no way did I post my translation with the intention of 'taking over' the position or whatnot of your current translator. I'm actually annoyed that I'm having to justify myself like this. Anyone who actually read my posts would see that I only posted it as a one-off translation, though I did imply that I would be willing to help out more - should my help be needed. I translated the chapter before I even decided to post it here - and even so, I posted it as a 'thank you' for the raw, since I noticed no other translation had been posted yet - Also another reason why I posted it in this section and not the "latest translations" section.

Well, he's free to translate whatever he wants, but we won't be using it so it's kind of fruitless effort.

I don't care whether you consider it a fruitless effort or not, to be honest. To me it's quite the opposite, not to mention it's good practice and was fun, especially translating a series I just got into and am already overly addicted to. Yes you're right, I'm free to translate whatever I like regardless. =/

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO PICK VAGABOND? ;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;

Because I love Vagabond. o_o Not to mention I'm somewhat fussy about what manga I translate - If it's a series I'm hooked on then I wouldn't hesitate, but if not, then I'd most likely find it too tedious to keep translating eventually, 'cause I'd have lost interest :S

Wouldn't it be better to translate something that isn't being actively translated? By almost-professional translator, to boot..

I've noticed other people posting their translations here, even though there are already 'official' versions that are released as well - So surely I'm not doing any harm by posting my translation for Vagabond here. This is a practice section after all, is it not?

Anyway, I agree with Alan Smithee. I just thought that if I posted my translation it'd help out in some way for those who are itching to know what's going on and don't understand Japanese - then download the 'official' Edited Manga or whatever. Also, I wasn't expecting to have my translation used in any Edited Manga. :S

Actually, I don't really have the time right now to be an ongoing translator here, let alone a 'full time' translator. >_<; That and I feel that I'm not experienced enough. Though having said that, I will be posting my translation for Vagabond 252, for those who had asked me to do so - and it will be my last translation for now. Thank you to those who appreciated my work and/or found it helpful.

 

[Aladar]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

With all due respect, in no way did I post my translation with the intention of 'taking over' the position or whatnot of your current translator. I'm actually annoyed that I'm having to justify myself like this. Anyone who actually read my posts would see that I only posted it as a one-off translation, though I did imply that I would be willing to help out more - should my help be needed. I translated the chapter before I even decided to post it here - and even so, I posted it as a 'thank you' for the raw, since I noticed no other translation had been posted yet - Also another reason why I posted it in this section and not the "latest translations" section.

Don't get me wrong, I never wanted to imply that. I merely wanted to point out, that it will be awesome if you would start some new series, because you seem pretty skilled, and there are countless great unscanlated manga out there. In the end, it's of course your call what you will do.

I've noticed other people posting their translations here, even though there are already 'official' versions that are released as well - So surely I'm not doing any harm by posting my translation for Vagabond here. This is a practice section after all, is it not?

Anyway, I agree with Alan Smithee. I just thought that if I posted my translation it'd help out in some way for those who are itching to know what's going on and don't understand Japanese - then download the 'official' Edited Manga or whatever. Also, I wasn't expecting to have my translation used in any Edited Manga. :S

Actually, I don't really have the time right now to be an ongoing translator here, let alone a 'full time' translator. >_<; That and I feel that I'm not experienced enough. Though having said that, I will be posting my translation for Vagabond 252, for those who had asked me to do so - and it will be my last translation for now. Thank you to those who appreciated my work and/or found it helpful.

Again, I wasn't implying that you are somewhat parasiting on other's work - noone has exclusive rights to do it, and anyone is free to contribute to the community the way he/she sees fit. My apologies if my previous post sounded offensive in any way, god knows we need every good translator that decides to do seinen series.

 

[Krizy]

[Seinen] Vagabond 252 by Krizy

Hi again~ I'm kinda going backwards with already having posted 253 a few days ago (oops). Actually I wasn't gonna post another translation, but since some people had asked me to, I decided to give it a shot Enjoy!

~Notes by me are marked with an asterisk *
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バガボンド#252 ― 翻訳者： Krizy

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Page 1:

どうだね　
How is it

無理すなよ
Don't overdo it now

・・・・・

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＃２５２捕らわれの武蔵
An Imprisoned Musashi

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棒っきれのようだ
I feel like a worn-out stick

前へも、後へも、踏み出せねえ
I can't even step forward or backward...

棒か
A stick, eh

しゃあないわな
Well, it can't be helped

どれ・・・・
let me see....

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ぐるぐるに固めてまうよ
I'll wrap this around to support your leg

天はお前にもう― 斬り合いを望んでおられないということじゃないのかね
Doesn't it make sense that the heavens don't want you to fight anymore?

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[二条城]
[Nijou castle]

[その北に隣接する京都所司代]
[The Kyoto Shoshidai to the north]

[武蔵の身はその一隅に捕らわれていた]
[Musashi himself had been confined to that cell]

これは驚きました
What a surprise it was

光悦殿が武蔵とお知り合いであられたとは
to find out that you were even acquainted with Musashi!

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[京都所司代板倉勝重]
[The Kyoto Shoshidai, Itakura Katsushige]

確かめに来ました
I came to see for myself

友人が捕らわれたと聞きまして、、、
I heard a friend was taken prisoner...

光悦殿も御存知でしょうが、先の一乗寺下り松における吉岡一門との死闘―
I suppose you know of the recent death match regarding the Yoshioka clan at the pine of Ichijouji--

これは果たし状もなく見届け人もない
There was neither a letter of challenge, nor any witnesses

つまり、正式な決闘とは認められませんでしたよって
So it wasn't recognized as a formal duel

武蔵を召し捕りました
I had Musashi apprehended

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斬りも斬ったり七十人！
He outright cut down 70 men!

これはどうやら吉岡側に非がある
It looks as though the Yoshioka are to blame

七十対一ならば斬るしかないではないですか
I would assume that since it was 70 vs 1, he'd have no choice but to take them all out.

武蔵に罪があるとすればただ― 強すぎたことか
If he's found guilty-- it would be because he was too strong

御心配なさるな、光悦殿 悪いようにはしません
Do not worry, Kouetsu-dono. I'll make sure nothing bad happens.

、、、感謝いたします
...I am most grateful

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しばらくは捕らわれの身でいた方が武蔵のためでもあるかもなぜなら―
Thus, it might be best if Musashi remains here as a prisoner for a little while.

京にいれば吉岡の縁者との係わりも出てこようし
Those who have connections with relatives of the Yoshioka may turn up if he stays in the capital.

名を上げたい武芸者には今や武蔵は一番の標的
Now Musashi is the number one target of martial artists who wish to make a name for themselves.

怪我を治す間だけでもここにつながれていた方がよいさらには―
Which is why it would be best for him to be kept here, even if it's just while his injuries heal.

武蔵の身辺はいくぶん騒がしくなってきています
People are starting to talk more about Musashi these days

諸藩より身分の照会
Inquiries from various clans...

仕官の誘い
Invitations to serve as a Samurai

とにかく会いたいなどなど、、、
In any case they want to meet him, etc.

私のとこにも似た手紙が来ました
I also got a similar letter

光悦殿にも
You received one too?

御友人であるとの噂を聞いての事でしょうな
They probably heard rumours that he's a friend of yours.

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まだまだこの世は泰平には至ず、、、
This world has yet to attain peace...

猛き虎を見つけたら手許に置きたいのがいくさ人の常なのでしょう
I guess a warrior tends to keep a ferocious tiger close at hand should he come across one.

一乗寺の死体を御覧になりましたか、光悦殿
Did you see the dead bodies of Ichijouji, Kouetsu-dono?

いいえ
No, I didn't

私の感想ではあのようなこと―
My thoughts are as I said before--

たとえ将軍家指南役の柳生や小野であっても不可能だろうと
Even the Shougun's instructors, Yagyuu and Ono wouldn't be capable of doing that

七十からの死体のほとんどは一太刀で斬られてましたよ
Most of the 70 had been cut down by a single stroke of his sword.

、、、

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安静に
Get some rest

なあ武蔵さんよ
Say, Musashi-san

その一太刀を負わせた人物に感謝なさいよ
be grateful to the one who slashed you

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光無き、、、
Because,

地獄の行き止まりへ向かうあんたを止めてくれたんだからねえ
He saved you from heading towards the darkness... and the dead end of hell

、、、

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光無き、、、
Darkness...

地獄の行き止りだと、、、？
The dead end of hell ...?

俺の向かう道が？
The path I'm on?/The path I follow?

フン
Hmph

行ったことあんのかよ？
How the hell would you know?!

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何か？
Something wrong?

、、、

（ガヤガヤ）
(people chatting)

お灸をすえられたなお通
You got a good scolding eh, Otsuu.

ぐむう
Gumuu (grumble)

あっいた！お師匠!!
Ah, you're here! Master!!

おししょ―――っ
Master---!

何でこんな牢屋に！ お師匠は何も悪いことしてないやい！
Why is he in jail like this! Hey! Master hasn't done anything wrong!

出せ！
Get him out!

よせ城太郎 さすがに今度は説教ではすまんぞ!!
That's enough Joutarou, or this time you won't get off with just a scolding!!

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お灸って？
A scolding?

お前が連れて行かれたあとすごいことに
Amazingly enough, after you were taken...

おかしい絶対!! なんで武しゃんが悪いの!?
This is absolutely outrageous!! Why are you blaming Take-shan!?

そうだ！ おししょうを返せ!!
Yeah! Return my master!!

うわコラ!?
Argh, hey!

不当逮捕！
A wrongful charge!*
(*ie: it's unfair/wrong that Musashi is being arrested)

イヤ大変だった 説教ですんでよかったよ
No, it was quite serious. Luckily they got off with a warning

役人につかみかかるんだから
She was gonna make a grab for him.

もーやめてよ、沢庵さん！
That's enough already, Takuan-san!

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無茶すんな
Don't be so reckless

だって、、、
But...

、、、牢に入れられてるとはいえ
...Although you've been put in prison,

大事に扱われているな
You are being treated well here.

こうして話すことも許されたし
And we're even allowed to talk

さて、、、話の途中だったな
Well then... We were interrupted last time huh...

別の道を生きるときじゃないか、武蔵？
Isn't about time you live a different way, Musashi?

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例えばお通とともに―
Together with Otsuu, for instance--

ねえ、お通さん
Hey, Otsuu-san

幸せかい？
Are you happy?

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望みが一つ叶って
That your wish will be granted

お師匠はもう剣ができなくなってきっとお通さんと一緒に暮らすんだろう
Master won't be able to use a sword anymore, so surely he'll live with you

よかったね
It's good isn't it

お通さんは剣を嫌いだから
Because you dislike swords...

たろちん何言って、、、
Taro-chin, what are you saying...

でもオラはどうなるのさ
But like, what's gonna happen to me huh?

お師匠はもう剣ができない
Master is no longer able to wield his sword

もうオラは
So already I...

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オラは先生を失ってしまったっ、、、!!
I've already lost my sensei...!!

どこにいても、離れてても、どこかでお師匠がきっと稽古をしてて
No matter where I am, even if we get separated I'm sure master would be training somewhere,

それでオラも木剣を振るっ
So then I'll swing my bokken* too
(*wooden sword)

それでよかった
That'd be fine

約束したから
Because he promised

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一緒に強くなろうなって
That we'd both become strong together

それでよかったのに うぐっ
That would've been fine... *sob*

離れてたって ずっとオラの ひっく う
Even if we do get separated, he'll always be *hic* *sob*

お師匠
My master

うわああん ああああ
Waaaaaahhhh

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Page 23:

うわ
Uwa

アー
Aaah

武蔵殿に会いたいと
It says he wants to meet with Musashi-dono

剣術指南役に迎えたいと
And make him a Kenjutsu instructor

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Page 24:

江戸の偉いお方からですよ
It's from an honourable person in Edo.

季節の移ろうように 永遠につづくものなどない
Like the seasons that change, nothing continues forever.

漂泊の旅は終わりかしらね、武蔵さん、、、
I wonder if your days of wandering have come to an end, Musashi-san...


『バガボンド』#253は次号第36･37合併号に登場！
Vagabond #253 will appear in the next combined issue of #36 and #37!


（終わり）

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Thanks for reading Comments/suggestions are welcome.
Edit: Oops, spelt 武蔵 as 'Takezou' instead of 'Musashi' at one point. Fixed XD

 

[eni]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

@Strays: That's really not the way to reply on someone's work. As she already mentioned, this is the "Academy" which is the section for translators in training. The works posted here are not intended to be used for Edited Mangas. Any further posts like this will be removed.

@Krizy: Please don't take them as serious as they sound. They're very proud of the good job they do with the Vagabond releases and just a little worried that a public translation results into low quality speedscans. It's a hot topic for many HQ groups at the moment and not against you personally. Don't let it concern you. They also know very well that more dedicated seinen translators such as you are needed (and I'm pretty sure they would even welcome your help on one of their interesting projects, if you're interested *hint hint*)... the wording is just off >.>

 

[Yabe]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 252 by Krizy

Hoorah, you did it!! I feel so thankful. Thanks a lot, Krizy-sama. <33

See you around the serie's discussion thread sometimes, ne? It's been so quiet there.

 

[Krizy]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 252 by Krizy

You're very welcome, Yabe! ^_^

See you around the serie's discussion thread sometimes, ne? It's been so quiet there.

Sure, will do~ Yeah I've noticed it's pretty quiet...;;

 

[Krizy]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

>Aladar
My first paragraph was basically in reply to everyone - I'm sorry if it seemed I had aimed it specifically at you. I might have taken some things more seriously than had been implied =/ Anyway, no offence taken. I'm glad we cleared this up - Thanks for your understanding.

>eni
Ah, I see. Though I'm still a bit annoyed, it is understandable for them to be proud of the work they do, especially taking into account how much hard work is put into HQ releases. I'm also proud of the work I do and put a lot of effort into it, so yeah, I understand. :S

 

[eni]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

Ah, I see. Though I'm still a bit annoyed, it is understandable for them to be proud of the work they do, especially taking into account how much hard work is put into HQ releases. I'm also proud of the work I do and put a lot of effort into it, so yeah, I understand. :S

I know, just wanted to explain to you why they react this way - which doesn't justifies the way they did it, of course. We don't want the translators to run away because people criticize them on posting translations.

They were obviously unable (@guys ) to simply ask you to not give your translation free for just anyone or even better, to join one of the best seinen groups out there. Which, in the end, is your decision anyways but they could have at least give it a friendly try instead of this

Anyways, case closed ^^

 

[Krizy]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

Oh...haha ^^;; Well my translations aren't up for grabs so to speak, so yeah, nothing for them to worry about concerning other random groups/people using them :S

And yes, case closed indeed. Thanks, eni!

 

[Aladar]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 253 by Krizy

@Strays: That's really not the way to reply on someone's work. As she already mentioned, this is the "Academy" which is the section for translators in training. The works posted here are not intended to be used for Edited Mangas. Any further posts like this will be removed.

Please, get your facts straight. I am no longer part of Strays, and I can't give two dumps about speedscanslation. TYVM.

>Aladar
My first paragraph was basically in reply to everyone - I'm sorry if it seemed I had aimed it specifically at you. I might have taken some things more seriously than had been implied =/ Anyway, no offence taken. I'm glad we cleared this up - Thanks for your understanding.

Hah, I'm glad too.

 

[DrTopo]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 252 by Krizy

arigato gozaimashita.

 

[Krizy]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 252 by Krizy

You're welcome ^^

 

[CrayMaster]

TWGOK 16 Help Needed

I translated a bit of First page here what it looks like

"おかしぃ　な――――
図書館の　ドアが　開かなぃの
開かなぃって、　カギは？

パスフ―ドが
合わないのよ
なんだよ　今日は入れ替えの日じやなかつたの？　ど―なつてんだ？　ん？"

"its as I read

okashi ? na ?? ??
toshokan no doa ga hiraka na ?no
hiraka na ?tte, kagi ha ?
pasu wa ado ga awa nai no yo
nan da yo
kyou ha irekae no hi
ji ya nakatsu ta no ? do ?
natsu te n da ? n ? "

Meaning

@Strange?
And ..opening.. ..opening.. key to ..door at the library.. :.

Password
It is not suitable.
Is Ima day of the day of the replacement?..retreat.. ???@

And this doesn't seem to make any sense!

 

[Kyrie Eleison]

Re: TWGOK 16 Help Needed

This is strange...
The door of the library isn't opening.
Not opening... Does that mean it requires a key?
The password doesn't seem to match.
What the heck?! Wasn't it supposed to be changed today? What's going on?!

開かなぃ = akenai
じや = read as jya not jiya
ど―なつてんだ = doonattenda the tsu should be a tiny tsu. doo = dou (what)

 

[Dhazard]

Re: [Seinen] Vagabond 252 by Krizy

Thank you very much! ^___________^;;
Really appreciate your translation! <3