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Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


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??? are you okay? Do have a fever? Covid? are you drunk? Or did you lose another bet?

Also, did Usopp and Franky have time to modify the suit? I know Sanji wanted the suit modified, I dunno if either had a chance though. Maybe that'll make a huge difference.
Also I just remembered he used it to protect himself against King, but I forgot if there's been any change. I don't think so though since I don't remember anyone talking about tha.t.
LOL why are you asking me this?

Anyway i dont think they had enough time to modify the RS since they only meet up with everyone after fixing the ships and that was 1/2 days before the war.
There was no changes from his clash with King, his RS is still the same, in my own opinion i dont think the RS will change but rather Sanji will accept himself as a Vinsmoke and unlock more abilities within himself.
 

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Because you praised Sanji, which you almost never do. And you didn't use an exclamation mark.

I don't keep track of timetables, so yeah, but that makes sense. Maybe they got something in that's not obvious or doesn't change appearance, so who knows. Though perhaps this is the fight where Sanji unlocks some modifications in his body.
 

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Because you praised Sanji, which you almost never do. And you didn't use an exclamation mark.

I don't keep track of timetables, so yeah, but that makes sense. Maybe they got something in that's not obvious or doesn't change appearance, so who knows. Though perhaps this is the fight where Sanji unlocks some modifications in his body.
I like Sanji as a character, he like Usopp are the only SHP that are relatable, I just hate the people who don't get what Sanji is as a character and try to compare him to Luffy and Zoro which is a mistake, for me Sanji is more human-like and has many good qualities but also similar flaws.

Yeah, i get that but just like Sanji praise Momo for being true to who he was i want Sanji to accept that he is Germa and finally be proud of who he is and maybe just maybe he can unlock more of stealth black and surpass Marco and show that Luffy has an amazing crew under him.
 

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... I'm scared. @goldb did Shasha get hacked?

I don't think Sanji could be proud of being a Vinsmoke or Germa as long as the organization is evil. His issue was with how cruel and heartless his dad and brothers were, so it'd take them having to be better for him to even think about starting to embrace anything Vinsmoke.
 

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... I'm scared. @goldb did Shasha get hacked?

I don't think Sanji could be proud of being a Vinsmoke or Germa as long as the organization is evil. His issue was with how cruel and heartless his dad and brothers were, so it'd take them having to be better for him to even think about starting to embrace anything Vinsmoke.
LMAO, if you go back and read my posts when I'm not being trollish you will see I actually like Sanji, I only shit on his fan base and never on him, I REALLY HATE SANJI FANBOIS who don't even get what Oda is trying to do, they always try to pit Sanji and Zoro forgetting what Sanji's strength are and completely ignoring why he is cool in the first place!

I know but I really want him to accept himself (even though its a cliche) so that he can unlock abilities like his brothers and become an even better-fighting force for Luffy.
 

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I've... literally never seen any of these posts, but granted I tend to skip most of your posts and Sanji vs. Zoro posts in general. But you've attacked Sanji in your quest to hate on his fans, hence the confusion.

I think he will, likely, if Reiju takes over Germa soon. Wasn't that supposed to happen? We know Sanji loves (or likes?) Reiju that he came out of Bege's castle and protected her against Big Mom's attack. Reiju also has compassion so that just ups the chances.
 

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If Sanji's getting his Raid Suit modified substantially in the future, it'll probably be Vegapunk who'll do it for him. Also, not sure if I've missed about who gave Sora the drug but I'm guessing it's probably Vegapunk who gave Sora that drug to help counter act what Judge was trying to do to Sanji and his brothers' emotions since, as far as I remember Vegapunk was Judge's partner when it came to researching Lineage Factor. I'm very much interested in what Oda does with Sanji. Pretty sure he did not introduce the comic strip for nothing either, wonder where he's going with this.
 

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I've... literally never seen any of these posts, but granted I tend to skip most of your posts and Sanji vs. Zoro posts in general. But you've attacked Sanji in your quest to hate on his fans, hence the confusion.

I think he will, likely, if Reiju takes over Germa soon. Wasn't that supposed to happen? We know Sanji loves (or likes?) Reiju that he came out of Bege's castle and protected her against Big Mom's attack. Reiju also has compassion so that just ups the chances.
That was a bad on my part, I guess I hated the fanbase to the point where many thought I hate Sanji :(

I think given Sanji's character he probably loves his family but because of the past he dint want to forsake his family and the fact they threatened Zeff he didn't want to forget and forgive but after what happened he probably understands them better and he is in the road to forgiving them, Sanji is such a kind and loving man I don't think he hates his family he just hates what they stand for, but after WCI i think Germa will change all thanks to Sanji for being who he is and i would welcome it when he accepts his family because at the end of the day like Raiju said Sanji is filled with love and he is extremely kind.
 

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If Sanji's getting his Raid Suit modified substantially in the future, it'll probably be Vegapunk who'll do it for him. Also, not sure if I've missed about who gave Sora the drug but I'm guessing it's probably Vegapunk who gave Sora that drug to help counter act what Judge was trying to do to Sanji and his brothers' emotions since, as far as I remember Vegapunk was Judge's partner when it came to researching Lineage Factor. I'm very much interested in what Oda does with Sanji. Pretty sure he did not introduce the comic strip for nothing either, wonder where he's going with this.
I'm willing to bet the comic strip thing is just for comedy/gag in the future when Sanji busts out the raid suit
That was a bad on my part, I guess I hated the fanbase to the point where many thought I hate Sanji :(

I think given Sanji's character he probably loves his family but because of the past he dint want to forsake his family and the fact they threatened Zed he didn't want to forget and forgive but after what happened he probably understands them better and he is in the road to forgiving them, Sanji is such a kind and loving man I don't think he hates his family he just hates what they stand for, but after WCI i think Germa will change all thanks to Sanji for being who he is and i would welcome it when he accepts his family because at the end of the day like Raiju said Sanji is filled with love and he is extremely kind.
I still don't trust you

Okay, read the paragraph and it's even more sus now, you're way too nice. But sadly I'd have to agree, but that's another reason why Luffy respects Sanji as well. When Judge was shitting on Sanji's traits, Luffy saw them as good things about Sanji.
 

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I still don't trust you

Okay, read the paragraph and it's even more sus now, you're way too nice. But sadly I'd have to agree, but that's another reason why Luffy respects Sanji as well. When Judge was shitting on Sanji's traits, Luffy saw them as good things about Sanji.
LOL, dude

Im only saying this now because the Sanji heretics arent here, Ill only speak the truth!
To be honest, because of the Sanji fandom i ended up hating Sanji but since I just did a marathon rewatch of the anime I love him again and from now on ill just flip a bird to the imbeciles
 

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I'm willing to bet the comic strip thing is just for comedy/gag in the future when Sanji busts out the raid suit
I suppose it could go either way. But that being introduced only for it to be for comedy/gag purpose in the end would be underwhelming.
 

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Sanji has already used the raid suit once, after saying he wont use evil science... So i dont see him not using it further. But i would prefer to see him without RS and take down Jack, only using RS in scenarios to be invisible.
 

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LOL, dude

Im only saying this now because the Sanji heretics arent here, Ill only speak the truth!
To be honest, because of the Sanji fandom i ended up hating Sanji but since I just did a marathon rewatch of the anime I love him again and from now on ill just flip a bird to the imbeciles
You mean Moe? But also, you're not helping yourself by calling them imbeciles.

You better not hype up Sanji the way Zoro fans hype up Zoro though, we've enough hypemen to go around smh

I suppose it could go either way. But that being introduced only for it to be for comedy/gag purpose in the end would be underwhelming.
what else would it be for? Just wondering as I can't think of any other reason as to why the comics would be relevant, unless it's kind of based on the truth/has the Vinsmokes' hands in it.
 

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??? are you okay? Do have a fever? Covid? are you drunk? Or did you lose another bet?



Also, did Usopp and Franky have time to modify the suit? I know Sanji wanted the suit modified, I dunno if either had a chance though. Maybe that'll make a huge difference.
Also I just remembered he used it to protect himself against King, but I forgot if there's been any change. I don't think so though since I don't remember anyone talking about tha.t.
LOL Sorry I have to call out his BS.

"The probability of him fighting Queen is nonexistent, his main fight should have been Page One luckily Oda upgraded him to a half-dead Jack."
This is from post #234 in Chapter discussion #1005.

"Yeah but jack is on his last legs and cant even breath right, while Sanji is also somewhat injured, for me that like Oda nerfing Jack to the point where Sanji can compete which isn't fair for Jack.
But like you said it will all come down to difficulty, on how hard Sanji beats Jack and on how easily Jinbe deals with Who's Who."

"Judge's 3rd son is such a clown, didnt Nami tell him if he cant hit women he should at least run away, but nah the 3rd son just got his ars handed to him by gifters and cried out for help from Robin, this guy is a serious clown OMG, I would have had more respect for him if he ran away but crying out for help and doing exactly what the enemy wants is really.......................

Anyway i always thought the clown was going to fight Page One but it looks like he will end up fighting Jack the drag down, i really look forward to seeing how he will damage jack when his attack power is soo weak, the clown will probably cry out for Usopp to come save him next."


"It wouldn't be a shocker when he beats Jack since he is the 3rd strongest MC, given Sanji's abilities he should be able to beat jack and carry on fighting even after it, its normally Sanji's job to take care of everything since Luffy and Zoro don't think ahead and just jump into the fight, I expect Sanji to save Kinemon and the others and also ensure the alliance will be able to secure the win by shutting down CP-0"

The way he words it does not show the kind of respect or adoration that he have for the character. Either that or he just goes with whatever people like.

Would like to see him defend his comment given how he said he's a fan of Sanji.

Any crediblity that he has left just went out the window now that he has to stoop down to these kind of games. Sanji surpassing Marco???? I'd say even end of the manga, that's not likely.
 
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"Judge's 3rd son is such a clown, didnt Nami tell him if he cant hit women he should at least run away, but nah the 3rd son just got his ars handed to him by gifters and cried out for help from Robin, this guy is a serious clown OMG, I would have had more respect for him if he ran away but crying out for help and doing exactly what the enemy wants is really.......................

Anyway i always thought the clown was going to fight Page One but it looks like he will end up fighting Jack the drag down, i really look forward to seeing how he will damage jack when his attack power is soo weak, the clown will probably cry out for Usopp to come save him next."
Well, damn. That is harsh indeed. I don't speak for the mods but don't think MangaHelpers has place for something like this. It's off-topic and you should just let things be lol.
 

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Well, damn. That is harsh indeed. I don't speak for the mods but don't think MangaHelpers has place for something like this. It's off-topic and you should just let things be lol.
Dont worry about it, its one of the people I just wanted to show that their ignorant biased opinions weren't worth anything here, people like @misfiringsystem when they go high you go low so that you can bring them down to the reality.

I mean they still even at this point think Sanji will fight King which wont happen or that Zoro will for whatever reason come down to fight Queen, its not really important to take clowns like that seriously!
 

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Dont worry about it, its one of the people I just wanted to show that their ignorant biased opinions weren't worth anything here, people like @misfiringsystem when they go high you go low so that you can bring them down to the reality.

I mean they still even at this point think Sanji will fight King which wont happen or that Zoro will for whatever reason come down to fight Queen, its not really important to take clowns like that seriously!
LOL

you know that the comments that I quoted are your words right....?

Please quote me where I said I think Sanji will fight king or that Zoro will fight queen. 😂😂
 

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TBH I simply don't think there are any set matchups yet in the arc. The wano arc is optimistically.... barely 3/5s of the way done, maybe less. In previous arcs we usually get a lot of shenanigans until the final stages of the arc when the final matchups are shown and executives finally start falling. So you have kaido's crew most of whom are zoans.. meaning that even if defeated they can at least be back up fighting within an hour and the fact that there is simply so much ground left to cover. Soon enough the focus should shift from the fights against kaido's crew to actually saving wano from onigashima.
 

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@misfiringsystem @Shasha23

let this be a sanji bashing thread, not sanji haters/lovers bashing thing..

On the poll, maybe we should do a new one? The headliners and flying six and out of question at this point.
 

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LOL, dude

Im only saying this now because the Sanji heretics arent here, Ill only speak the truth!
To be honest, because of the Sanji fandom i ended up hating Sanji but since I just did a marathon rewatch of the anime I love him again and from now on ill just flip a bird to the imbeciles
That's what you thought...
We're creeping in the darkness Shasha, invisible to naked eyes...

But for sure we're seeing all of your writings

Because the Sanji Fanbase is everywhere Shasha...

Everywhere.
 
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