Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[Takuan]

Still gave chase and didn't stop what he was doing until by cards, not because he was inadequate, so I don't think you can say he was really focus more on mission compare to his card predicting as that how he always roles.

Giving chase accomplished nothing though. Really, all he did was a little skirmish with Zoro and nothing else, he didn't manage to stop anyone, not for long anyway.

Lives he can get more of and 2 men is his big lost? Nah, Hawkins can get majority of his crew and Beast Pirates for lives and it's not shown he felt bad on losing them one bit, so again I don't see it lost for him as for Zoro on his side. If it was really that bad, why continue on when he soon face off with Law and took another of his lives. He doesn't care and see it as no lost factor as he can always get more and make more. So to say it's more Zoro's favor is still not right attitude.

"Hawkins can get majority of his crew and Beast Pirates for lives" so he can go ahead and sacrifice the majority of his crew and the Beast Pirates for lives, that's fine then? What?
Who cares about how much of an asshole Hawkins is in regards to who he sacrifices. It's not about how much it weighs in his conscience, it's about human losses. The fact that he doesn't care about his men doesn't mean his men's lives aren't wasted. Any way you look at it, Hawkins's side, or Kaido's side in general, keep losing men because of Hawkins. That is a definite loss, regardless of how little Hawkins cares about it.

My point wasn't even about that anyway. He can replenish his doll lives as you say, and he doesn't care about those he sacrificed. But in the actual fight itself, he has a limited amount of lives he can have at a time. He already lost 2 in mere seconds against Zoro, imagine if the fight had lasted longer and he kept losing more lives. He was pretty lucky to have lost only two in my opinion.

I said for others, not me. I still think of it as a lost, but others are free to think on what they think. Though just saying those who said it's in good favors of Zoro get countered harshly since that chapter, so I am just letting you know in case you try spreading in that fashion on other websites as not many would think your way of thinking.

I'm not going into other websites tbh.
It's fine if not many would agree with me. Everyone's entitled to its own opinion. I'll be glad to talk to anyone who thinks Hawkins won that fight against Zoro, since that will never be right in my eyes.

Law can get around him due to his own DF can countered his, Sanji can do so as well since his fire can burn the straws and damage faster, and Usopp might have a chance with him as well due to having explosions and fire ammo in hand too, and so on. Don't think he give everyone a problem as there can be others to counter him, but Zoro with him cutting him down doesn't see right idea especially isn't there a saying it's better to burn straws than cut them? Plus he has bad history dealing with tricky opponents for awhile, so again not best person he can fight in the bigger perspective.

Hummm... When Hawkins summoned his large doll thingy, Zoro one shot it with his first named slash. He didn't seem to need fire to defeat it. The fact that the material is straws isn't the problem here, the tricky part of his DF is the fact that any damage he receives gets redirected. And if you're not aware of his DF, you're hella confused; even Kizaru was surprised at it. There's also the fact that he summons different things depending on his cards, and you never know what will come next. That would surprise anyone, not just Zoro.
Zoro has a bad history dealing with tricky opponents? Well maybe, i don't know. Which particular fights are you talking about? Imo a tricky opponent, by definition, is tricky for anyone aside from direct counters.

Actually second time he bleed. He was injured before by Fujitora which is why many also don't think he was Admiral level much and plus Fujitora show more in fights with Sabo and Luffy. Though back onto the debate at hand, again I feel it's a lost, but others are free to think on it. Though from fandom's point it is not in good spirits for Zoro in the end. As for Hawkins showing, I haven't seen bad stuff about him doing poorly, mostly they underestimate him and see Hawkins stronger than they realize after 2 years timeskip. There are few who said he 'lost' out of it, but again got countered on their end on the thoughts.

AH, he bled against Fujitora? Or maybe you're just talking about injuries in general and not litteral bleeding. Anyway, of course i remember his struggle against Fujitora.
Again, the fandom can think what the fandom wants to think... Doesn't make it any more valid. I'm actually surprised to hear that the majority thinks that it's a loss for Zoro, but knowing that won't change my mind on the matter.

Didn't know your felt that strongly on Hawkins' performance, but doubt it be the last we seen in fight though. Also I agree with how you feel though and glad we have a reasonable talk, so lets end this now since it's getting off topic like you said since this is Sanji's thread after all.

Yeah, i also doubt that was all he's capable of. We'll be seeing more from him combat-wise, i'm sure of it. For now though, i'm unsatisfied.
Yes, a Sanji thread lol let's get back on tracks. I don't even remember what the Sanji conversation was though, so.............

 

[King Moe]

Giving chase accomplished nothing though. Really, all he did was a little skirmish with Zoro and nothing else, he didn't manage to stop anyone, not for long anyway.


"Hawkins can get majority of his crew and Beast Pirates for lives" so he can go ahead and sacrifice the majority of his crew and the Beast Pirates for lives, that's fine then? What?
Who cares about how much of an asshole Hawkins is in regards to who he sacrifices. It's not about how much it weighs in his conscience, it's about human losses. The fact that he doesn't care about his men doesn't mean his men's lives aren't wasted. Any way you look at it, Hawkins's side, or Kaido's side in general, keep losing men because of Hawkins. That is a definite loss, regardless of how little Hawkins cares about it.

My point wasn't even about that anyway. He can replenish his doll lives as you say, and he doesn't care about those he sacrificed. But in the actual fight itself, he has a limited amount of lives he can have at a time. He already lost 2 in mere seconds against Zoro, imagine if the fight had lasted longer and he kept losing more lives. He was pretty lucky to have lost only two in my opinion.


I'm not going into other websites tbh.
It's fine if not many would agree with me. Everyone's entitled to its own opinion. I'll be glad to talk to anyone who thinks Hawkins won that fight against Zoro, since that will never be right in my eyes.


Hummm... When Hawkins summoned his large doll thingy, Zoro one shot it with his first named slash. He didn't seem to need fire to defeat it. The fact that the material is straws isn't the problem here, the tricky part of his DF is the fact that any damage he receives gets redirected. And if you're not aware of his DF, you're hella confused; even Kizaru was surprised at it. There's also the fact that he summons different things depending on his cards, and you never know what will come next. That would surprise anyone, not just Zoro.
Zoro has a bad history dealing with tricky opponents? Well maybe, i don't know. Which particular fights are you talking about? Imo a tricky opponent, by definition, is tricky for anyone aside from direct counters.


AH, he bled against Fujitora? Or maybe you're just talking about injuries in general and not litteral bleeding. Anyway, of course i remember his struggle against Fujitora.
Again, the fandom can think what the fandom wants to think... Doesn't make it any more valid. I'm actually surprised to hear that the majority thinks that it's a loss for Zoro, but knowing that won't change my mind on the matter.



Yeah, i also doubt that was all he's capable of. We'll be seeing more from him combat-wise, i'm sure of it. For now though, i'm unsatisfied.
Yes, a Sanji thread lol let's get back on tracks. I don't even remember what the Sanji conversation was though, so.............

Why continue this after I said lets end it? Your bringing it back in more lol.

 

[afromarco005]

@King Moe just because the majority believes something is true doesnt mean its true. most americans belive africa is a country, doesnt mean its one.

 

[King Moe]

@King Moe just because the majority believes something is true doesnt mean its true. most americans belive africa is a country, doesnt mean its one.

Same can be said on those lesser scale on what they think. Also never heard that on a larger scale like that. Africa is obviously continent looking at it and learning from school.

 

[afromarco005]

Same can be said on those lesser scale on what they think. Also never heard that on a larger scale like that. Africa is obviously continent looking at it and learning from school.

You'd be surprised.

also havent had the time to respond but I will provide you with evidence of sanji struggling to bypass tekkai, vergo etc

 

[King Moe]

You'd be surprised.

also havent had the time to respond but I will provide you with evidence of sanji struggling to bypass tekkai, vergo etc

Please stop with that. He defeated Jabra. Stop saying he didn't do damage and act like the others did on their side especially Luffy and Zoro.

Don't want to hear Vergo if its the broken bone thing again when prove wrong. We already discuss that multiple times in this thread and countered it. Don't bring back up at all.

 

[thedude]

I admit, it felt more tie to me especially Katakuri let himself be injured to have a 'manly' duel with him, but did got help by Flambe to damage Luffy more, so feel they are evenly match especially near the end on how Katakuri was acting. Though not changing the process that Oda wants Luffy be the one to take Kaido down. I do see him teaming up with Kidd and Law to help him with that, but still see him getting the final blow as he probably gain something from his training out of it. Plus we also the Rayleigh's talk about Haki as well some are saying he could 'Awaken' his DF to help him out against Kaido more which is also possible. So Luffy has potential to what he can produce same as Sanji and Zoro against the YCs. We just have to wait and see.

I felt like Katakuri could have killed Luffy mutliple times, but he was interested in him, how he kept getting up. But Katakuri was not attacking him when he knocked him down, if he did, he'd have won the fight a lot earlier. Luffy's resilience and improvement just intrigued him too much.

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All of you have been right, Zoro is weak and he lost to Hawkins. @Takuan You know nothing Jon Snow.

Regarding OJ, I joined there with one purpose, to troll Sanji squad and point out how ridiculous their arguments are. I triggered one of them way too hard and that got me banned.

At least you admit that all you are doing is trying to troll Sanji fans. Not a good look for you, but glad you are admitting it now.

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Only one? Have you not seen around the other websites? People doubting Zoro over this, not just me. Though I still feel he can beat Orochi if he is a legit strong character. You got to look around more, Takuan on what people been saying between him and Hawkins as they do count it as bad for Zoro in the end.

Now that's dumb, he didn't lose to Hawkins anymore than Sanji lost to Vergo. I know this board is basically all negativity to Sanji with some really lame arguments, but you don't have to stoop to that level.

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No, no. Sanji has potential to do more, Zoro is just weak, he lost to nails.


Sanji squad is simply special. From few days being present on OJ i noticed that whatever the general opinion is about anything, Sanji squad comes in and claims the total opposite, it's way too hilarious not to troll them.
This is not targetting Sanji fans with healthy logic but rather the blind Sanji worshippers with 0 common sense.

You don't have any self awareness. You and others here turn literally every thread into anti-Sanji stuff. So to say "it's hilarious" that they on that board are so pro-Sanji while not realizing that your entire output here is 100% anti Sanji shows you aren't able to look at your own actions reasonably. You can do better.

 

[nik87]

At least you admit that all you are doing is trying to troll Sanji fans. Not a good look for you, but glad you are admitting it now.

I am not doing that in this forum, except in arguments with Moe.

You don't have any self awareness. You and others here turn literally every thread into anti-Sanji stuff. So to say "it's hilarious" that they on that board are so pro-Sanji while not realizing that your entire output here is 100% anti Sanji shows you aren't able to look at your own actions reasonably. You can do better.

I said several times that I have nothing against Sanji's character but I do have against the effort of the few to put him on the pedestal he does not deserve, at least not yet. You are taking the Sanji bashing way too serious, if Oda can joke on Sanji's account so can we.

 

[thedude]

I am not doing that in this forum, except in arguments with Moe.


I said several times that I have nothing against Sanji's character but I do have against the effort of the few to put him on the pedestal he does not deserve, at least not yet. You are taking the Sanji bashing way too serious, if Oda can joke on Sanji's account so can we.

You can say you have nothing against his character, but literally every conversation you have is about him and trying to goad Moe or his other fans into a fight. Trolling is what you are doing here, just like you did there. Look how you even tried to justify your trolling here "no...it's just because he has fans and I don't think he deserves what they say about him". Troll.

 

[King Moe]

I am not doing that in this forum, except in arguments with Moe.


I said several times that I have nothing against Sanji's character but I do have against the effort of the few to put him on the pedestal he does not deserve, at least not yet. You are taking the Sanji bashing way too serious, if Oda can joke on Sanji's account so can we.

That's Zoro's case as he been put on many pedestal and you think he is immune to funny moments? Oda joke with him as much with Sanji and everyone else especially last chapter. As always you get defensive if we try to critic him and give Sanji a point on something instead of the opposite. Just saying and I am aware of your trolling, but don't really mind much about it as I always make you leave out of the argument each time .

 

[nik87]

You can say you have nothing against his character, but literally every conversation you have is about him and trying to goad Moe or his other fans into a fight. Trolling is what you are doing here, just like you did there. Look how you even tried to justify your trolling here "no...it's just because he has fans and I don't think he deserves what they say about him". Troll.

You got it all wrong. Name one member of this forum who I have trolled except Moe.
Opposing the things that are being said about Sanji is not trolling, it's called disagreeing. You should check Moe's statements and reevaluate who is the one that trolls here. You should be able to spot that easily unless you share Moe's opinion, then I can understand where this is coming from.

 

[thedude]

You got it all wrong. Name one member of this forum who I have trolled except Moe.
Opposing the things that are being said about Sanji is not trolling, it's called disagreeing. You should check Moe's statements and reevaluate who is the one that trolls here. You should be able to spot that easily unless you share Moe's opinion, then I can understand where this is coming from.

So you say I'm wrong but you just admit you trolled. Good job!

And it's not opposing things that you do. Like there will be a spoiler thread, and Sanji will not be in the spoilers, and you'll start a long discussion on why he sucks, trying to get someone to argue with you.

And if you read my post that you first replied to, I said his comment about Zoro losing to Hawkins was as dumb as all of your anti-Sanji comments. So yes, I did call that out. Because I think trolling by anyone is lame. It's just obvious that on this board it's majority Zoro fans obsessively trolling Sanji fans.

 

[nik87]

That's Zoro's case as he been put on many pedestal and you think he is immune to funny moments? Oda joke with him as much with Sanji and everyone else especially last chapter. As always you get defensive if we try to critic him and give Sanji a point on something instead of the opposite. Just saying and I am aware of your trolling, but don't really mind much about it as I always make you leave out of the argument each time .

As it has been proven several times, whenever we discuss and criticize Sanji first thing you do is bring Zoro into the discussion while no one talks about Zoro. Learn to deal with critics in another way instead of instant counter-bashing. Also your bashing revolves around the loss to nails which people call you out for so I dont need to say much about it.

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So you say I'm wrong but you just admit you trolled. Good job!

As I said, I troll only Moe, name one other member of forum that I trolled. You cant.

And it's not opposing things that you do. Like there will be a spoiler thread, and Sanji will not be in the spoilers, and you'll start a long discussion on why he sucks, trying to get someone to argue with you.

It is opposing, I have presented countless manga panels proving Moe's claims wrong and he keeps repeating himself and trolling. I troll him back.
Find that spoiler thread where I have started Sanji bashing out of nowhere and link it please.

Because I think trolling by anyone is lame.

Using logic and sound arguments in argument with Moe is useless as he ignores it all so why not troll?

 

[King Moe]

Giving chase accomplished nothing though. Really, all he did was a little skirmish with Zoro and nothing else, he didn't manage to stop anyone, not for long anyway.


"Hawkins can get majority of his crew and Beast Pirates for lives" so he can go ahead and sacrifice the majority of his crew and the Beast Pirates for lives, that's fine then? What?
Who cares about how much of an asshole Hawkins is in regards to who he sacrifices. It's not about how much it weighs in his conscience, it's about human losses. The fact that he doesn't care about his men doesn't mean his men's lives aren't wasted. Any way you look at it, Hawkins's side, or Kaido's side in general, keep losing men because of Hawkins. That is a definite loss, regardless of how little Hawkins cares about it.

My point wasn't even about that anyway. He can replenish his doll lives as you say, and he doesn't care about those he sacrificed. But in the actual fight itself, he has a limited amount of lives he can have at a time. He already lost 2 in mere seconds against Zoro, imagine if the fight had lasted longer and he kept losing more lives. He was pretty lucky to have lost only two in my opinion.


I'm not going into other websites tbh.
It's fine if not many would agree with me. Everyone's entitled to its own opinion. I'll be glad to talk to anyone who thinks Hawkins won that fight against Zoro, since that will never be right in my eyes.


Hummm... When Hawkins summoned his large doll thingy, Zoro one shot it with his first named slash. He didn't seem to need fire to defeat it. The fact that the material is straws isn't the problem here, the tricky part of his DF is the fact that any damage he receives gets redirected. And if you're not aware of his DF, you're hella confused; even Kizaru was surprised at it. There's also the fact that he summons different things depending on his cards, and you never know what will come next. That would surprise anyone, not just Zoro.
Zoro has a bad history dealing with tricky opponents? Well maybe, i don't know. Which particular fights are you talking about? Imo a tricky opponent, by definition, is tricky for anyone aside from direct counters.


AH, he bled against Fujitora? Or maybe you're just talking about injuries in general and not litteral bleeding. Anyway, of course i remember his struggle against Fujitora.
Again, the fandom can think what the fandom wants to think... Doesn't make it any more valid. I'm actually surprised to hear that the majority thinks that it's a loss for Zoro, but knowing that won't change my mind on the matter.



Yeah, i also doubt that was all he's capable of. We'll be seeing more from him combat-wise, i'm sure of it. For now though, i'm unsatisfied.
Yes, a Sanji thread lol let's get back on tracks. I don't even remember what the Sanji conversation was though, so.............

Cause he choose to stop by cards again, not because he was tired or irritated and gave up. So doesn't really mean anything if he do it on his own.

Don't think Zoro will take out all the crew on both sides as the issue I am putting is that it get tiring on Zoro's side as the guy almost have infinite lives and come back with more tricky tricks. If he damage Zoro with only two of his men, then Zoro won't last long or it won't be easy for him in the long-run. Also not a lost for him as he doesn't care still and can get more men if he needs be and even try to use the lives of the Wano Citizens if he wants. So again, losing lives means nothing and don't count as a 'lost' for him you keep saying.

I see it more lucky for Zoro, not for him and also I think he learn from his time with Kizaru to countered that method of being helpless after losing all his lives as I doubt he do the same trick without learning it, so we shouldn't underestimate him by prior knowledge like that especially his performance so far in the arc.

Alright then, cool. I don't mind how you feel too. Just warning you on if you try to passed the knowledge on others as some don't think that. Kinda mixed if I have to say, but more heavily on Hawkins' side than Zoro's side.

Doll means nothing as that wasn't his best attack still and just something to send to them as if he was bit more gauging them then really at serious mode and I give props on Zoro slicing it, but still he comments on it's strength and got the first exchange before he attack, so still bad on him and even if surprise attack I don't see that as a excuse. Think of Mihawk being there and looking at that. Don't think he will accept like that and plus he was trained by "Hawkeyes Mihawk", so pretty sure it's implied he was trained to be more observant to not get hurt or his blades, but seem like he failed on being observant even if it was sneak attack (Though was it really since the doll was in his face and all?).

Buggy, Crocodile (He captured everyone in a cage or was that someone else? If so, you can forget this one), Enel, Kuma, etc.. No offense to Zoro, but we all know he isn't what we call a 'big thinker' or think first, so it takes him awhile to get things before they are too late or he can work against it, so same thing would apply with Hawkins as with the assault if he is lucky Hawkins don't take a break due to cards, he won't figure quickly how he does it until taking major damage even. Not saying he lose, but it won't be easy with Hawkins in the slightest like that.

Fujitora slammed him to the ground and he bleed from his mouth. Blood counts any part no matter what. Also they do and more so on Zoro fanboys who were overhyping Zoro on this fight thinking he have a clean victory, when it wasn't clean at all and thus backlash over it, but much more than Fujitora one though. It is what it is after all.

I see, but wait patiently and see what Hawkins is made off as if he still was able to damage Zoro which only few did so far (Though honestly Zoro face weaklings so far in fights compare to more serious degree fighters), then we bound to see what else he is bound to do. It's fine, we can talk about Sanji another time between you and me.

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As it has been proven several times, whenever we discuss and criticize Sanji first thing you do is bring Zoro into the discussion while no one talks about Zoro. Learn to deal with critics in another way instead of instant counter-bashing. Also your bashing revolves around the loss to nails which people call you out for so I dont need to say much about it.

Nah, you bring in Zoro first and compare how 'good' he is to Sanji when it's not even a issue and I countered you guys for it. Your the one who need to accept all characters have flaws and we should accept them, not try to make perfection of a character like you always do when Zoro involve. We haven't forgetting your "HYPING Zoro Thread" dude. Don't fool us please.

Not really only nails, I talk about Zoro's other loses and stakes he haven't done either as well. Just being fair about it is all.

 

[M3J]

You can say you have nothing against his character, but literally every conversation you have is about him and trying to goad Moe or his other fans into a fight. Trolling is what you are doing here, just like you did there. Look how you even tried to justify your trolling here "no...it's just because he has fans and I don't think he deserves what they say about him". Troll.

The problem isn't just his trolling, it's the fact that you and/or Moe keep responding to him trolling. Learn to ignore posts like that instead of respondng to it. It's not complicated.

So you say I'm wrong but you just admit you trolled. Good job!

He admitted two posts ago that he was trolling Moe and no one else, or at least not intentionally trying to troll anyone else.



Anyway, an okama disguise would actually be perfect for Sanji just because he's far from okama-thinking as possible. In fact, anyone who's been with him long enough would never expect Sanji to even dress remotely like a girl, which would make it even easier for him to hide. It'd be a classic misdirection, but I wouldn't even be shocked if Luffy was the only one to recognize Sanji :

 

[thedude]

The problem isn't just his trolling, it's the fact that you and/or Moe keep responding to him trolling. Learn to ignore posts like that instead of respondng to it. It's not complicated.


He admitted two posts ago that he was trolling Moe and no one else, or at least not intentionally trying to troll anyone else.



Anyway, an okama disguise would actually be perfect for Sanji just because he's far from okama-thinking as possible. In fact, anyone who's been with him long enough would never expect Sanji to even dress remotely like a girl, which would make it even easier for him to hide. It'd be a classic misdirection, but I wouldn't even be shocked if Luffy was the only one to recognize Sanji :

"it's ok that he is trolling, he admitted it is only one person"...dude, that doesn't make it better. You guys are being clowns. And if it derails every single thread into a moe vs nik Sanji war, it hurts every discussion.

"If you troll one person relentlessly with every post in every thread, it's OK, as long as you admit it's just the one person you are trying to troll". I mean...it's an excuse, lol.

I mentioned a few weeks ago, i barely post here (you can see I joined in 2014 but only have 177 posts, most in the past few weeks). The only reason I started posting was to plead with clowns like nik to cut it out so that people could have discussions about any other topic. It's so tiring coming into read spoilers and having to crawl through 8 pages of Sanji trolling by nik and a few others. Obviously my posting to try to get him to stop acting like a 3 year old isn't working, the trolling continues. But it would be nice if it stopped.

 

[nik87]

Nah, you bring in Zoro first and compare how 'good' he is to Sanji when it's not even a issue and I countered you guys for it.

We literally just saw who added Zoro into the discussion while we talked about Sanji, it was you. It's just your usual trolling claiming the complete opposite.

We haven't forgetting your "HYPING Zoro Thread" dude. Don't fool us please.

Who said that you should forget it? And who said that I am trying to fool anyone? You are jumping to some weird conclusions only you understand.
Hyping Zoro thread is exactly what it is, a thread to hype Zoro. You got something against it? Or that thread makes me what?

"it's ok that he is trolling, he admitted it is only one person"...dude, that doesn't make it better. You guys are being clowns. And if it derails every single thread into a moe vs nik Sanji war, it hurts every discussion.

I said I'll try to stay away from Sanji bashing and I did. I make one joke about Sanji that raid suit could end up a dress from Kamabakka Kingdom and it's Moe who jumps on it with counter- Zoro bashing. The guy literally cant take a single joke about Sanji.

 

[King Moe]

We literally just saw who added Zoro into the discussion while we talked about Sanji, it was you. It's just your usual trolling claiming the complete opposite.


Who said that you should forget it? And who said that I am trying to fool anyone? You are jumping to some weird conclusions only you understand.
Hyping Zoro thread is exactly what it is, a thread to hype Zoro. You got something against it? Or that thread makes me what?


I said I'll try to stay away from Sanji bashing and I did. I make one joke about Sanji that raid suit could end up a dress from Kamabakka Kingdom and it's Moe who jumps on it with counter- Zoro bashing. The guy literally cant take a single joke about Sanji.

Nope, that was you though. I don't bring in Sanji unless you guys put him in. Not trolling, just telling the truth. Please stop being defensive and let's get back track on this thread.

Mods change the title of it now cause they don't want that attention of it for a reason, Nik. I don't have anything against it, but your saying your not 'biased' when you made that thread. That's kinda fanboyism when you did that and why they change it as they want balance on both sides. No favoring the other, Just saying.

I can handle that. Just saying from my side it can't be useless for the crucial moment of the fight and the stakes is all from my end.

Lets end the talk here then as M3J is right. We should learn to ease up on things especially when we talk to each other. Lets this be our last post to our conversation here, Nik. Please don't try to continue if you want do things better than this.

 

[M3J]

"it's ok that he is trolling, he admitted it is only one person"...dude, that doesn't make it better. You guys are being clowns. And if it derails every single thread into a moe vs nik Sanji war, it hurts every discussion.

"If you troll one person relentlessly with every post in every thread, it's OK, as long as you admit it's just the one person you are trying to troll". I mean...it's an excuse, lol.

I mentioned a few weeks ago, i barely post here (you can see I joined in 2014 but only have 177 posts, most in the past few weeks). The only reason I started posting was to plead with clowns like nik to cut it out so that people could have discussions about any other topic. It's so tiring coming into read spoilers and having to crawl through 8 pages of Sanji trolling by nik and a few others. Obviously my posting to try to get him to stop acting like a 3 year old isn't working, the trolling continues. But it would be nice if it stopped.

I never said it made it better, but you kept accusing him of trying to troll everyone. Either way though, all of you are annoying, especially with how you react to trolls rather than ignoring it. I skip most of the discussions pertaining to Sanji, usually. It's not that hard, you aren't required to respond to everything. Again, if you think someone is trolling, then it's best not to respond as that's what they want, a reaction. And being all "let's end the conversation here" isn't any better. No need to say it, just stop replying.


Also just realized how deep the understanding/bond is between Luffy and Sanji. Despite Sanji saving Nami all the time, she really believed that he changed, while Luffy knew Sanji was faking it. It's like, the Monster Trio know each other pretty well and have great insights into each other, like how Luffy knew Zoro was worried about Sanji. That's a pretty cool dynamic.

 

[afromarco005]

Please stop with that. He defeated Jabra. Stop saying he didn't do damage and act like the others did on their side especially Luffy and Zoro.

Don't want to hear Vergo if its the broken bone thing again when prove wrong. We already discuss that multiple times in this thread and countered it. Don't bring back up at all.

I meant to write Blueno not Vergo my bad.

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The problem isn't just his trolling, it's the fact that you and/or Moe keep responding to him trolling. Learn to ignore posts like that instead of respondng to it. It's not complicated.


He admitted two posts ago that he was trolling Moe and no one else, or at least not intentionally trying to troll anyone else.



Anyway, an okama disguise would actually be perfect for Sanji just because he's far from okama-thinking as possible. In fact, anyone who's been with him long enough would never expect Sanji to even dress remotely like a girl, which would make it even easier for him to hide. It'd be a classic misdirection, but I wouldn't even be shocked if Luffy was the only one to recognize Sanji :

I laughed so much when luffy called Reiju Sanji