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Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


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Eh, it's up in the air as to whether or not he's going to save Momo.

He's a prime candidate given his current repitoire, but I'm not sure. There are a few things I'm considering...

Would Oda use this moment to reveal Sanji's new Raid Suit design? And if he doesn't, will he just have Momo disappear mid panel without anyone, including the All Stars, noticing?

Why would he have Sanji lie about the ladies if the crew already know that saving Momo is a priority mission? Why hide it?

Sanji is the only Strawhat who's current location and objective is completely unknown. Everyone else should be in the castle, in the way towards the stage, or at the back of the castle as per their plan. Why have him split when he could've easily stuck with Kine'mon and, presumably, have still sensed Momo?

It feels like Oda is building up to something else for Sanji. Then again, who knows, maybe he could do his Mr. Prince thing then come in to save Momo after.



You ain't lying. It's bad enough we have a crap ton of individuals already, but if the pattern holds, we'll still have to wait awhile for Sanji's he's usually the third from last fight.
I don't think Sanji lied about the ladies. I just think he's on the path to the stage, and that will then take over his motivation.

We know that Nami and Carrot and Shinobu are being chased by BM towards the stage, as BM said that's where they were headed. It appeared that Sanji went ahead of them in that same direction to look for ladies, so really that's all i'm basing anything off of.
 

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I don't think Sanji lied about the ladies. I just think he's on the path to the stage, and that will then take over his motivation.

We know that Nami and Carrot and Shinobu are being chased by BM towards the stage, as BM said that's where they were headed. It appeared that Sanji went ahead of them in that same direction to look for ladies, so really that's all i'm basing anything off of.
Don't think so it's about ladies especially when everyone is doing what they can for the plan as while that is in backburner, he know he came to do something important and think flashback is him understanding what he has to do, so it was more lying as not everything revolves around women for him when it's time to for action for his moments.
 

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I don't think Sanji lied about the ladies. I just think he's on the path to the stage, and that will then take over his motivation.

We know that Nami and Carrot and Shinobu are being chased by BM towards the stage, as BM said that's where they were headed. It appeared that Sanji went ahead of them in that same direction to look for ladies, so really that's all i'm basing anything off of.
Nah i think Sanji is on his way to save the people who are send to Onigashima as sacrifices, Sanji will free them with some joining in to overwhelm the Beast Pirates with their numbers.
(seeing how dark Wano is, the majority are females who are then forced to be prostitutes)
 

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I don't think Sanji lied about the ladies. I just think he's on the path to the stage, and that will then take over his motivation.
I think he did. Otherwise, he could've just made his way to the stage with everyone else. Maybe I'm just being overly hopeful, but I just want him to be doing something actually productive from the jump, rather than him just lucking into a scenario due to his gag.
 

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I think he did. Otherwise, he could've just made his way to the stage with everyone else. Maybe I'm just being overly hopeful, but I just want him to be doing something actually productive from the jump, rather than him just lucking into a scenario due to his gag.
Yeah, i can see that. In the end...i just want good fights for him and the rest of the SH's lol, so a gag that leads to that...i can swallow
 

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The raid suit alone shouldn't be enough to rescue momo. being invisible doesn't mean you can't be felt with haki... And at the location momo is at there should be plenty people with at least usable observation haki. Whoever rescues momo would still a distraction to pull it off.
But they'd also need a reason to use CoO, unless they know Luffy, Zoro, and Kidd are free but have no idea where they are. just that they're very close.
i can swallow
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I think he did. Otherwise, he could've just made his way to the stage with everyone else. Maybe I'm just being overly hopeful, but I just want him to be doing something actually productive from the jump, rather than him just lucking into a scenario due to his gag.
He wasn't gaging in flashback when he said it so I doubt it be a the reason he ends up there and plus everyone's gags has been on crew during this, so it's like he was first one or only one to act one like the others after all. Just look at Luffy and Zoro respective side too.
 

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He wasn't gaging in flashback when he said it so I doubt it be a the reason he ends up there and plus everyone's gags has been on crew during this, so it's like he was first one or only one to act one like the others after all. Just look at Luffy and Zoro respective side too.
I was thinking the same, but I don't trust Oda to not go the gag route with Sanji.
 

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I was thinking the same, but I don't trust Oda to not go the gag route with Sanji.
You probably see it in arc of course, but not when he taking things seriously on wanting to fight and save others. Gags will always be with every character, but doesn't take away their actions especially still takes seriously on wanting to take down the enemies.
 

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I was thinking the same, but I don't trust Oda to not go the gag route with Sanji.
He probably will, but he'll also probably make Sanji look like a badass or cool as usual. Sanji probably went to the house to find prostitutes, but I'm willing to bet he'll make a save or do something incredibly helpful to the crew.
 

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Saw recent Anime-Only scene and looks like to those want to believe 'Anime Canon' Sanji can take on both WG members without much effort it seems. Obviously Drake and Hawkins wouldn't be defeated given Canon Manga events for later, but still showing progress of Sanji on him able to combat WG with ease. Just enjoying scenes for fun as I know they are non-canon, but glad to see more Sanji showing and possible be seeing similar in upcoming in rescuing Momo if this episode is hinting on what's to come.
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What next level power can you expect Sanji's power with his DJ alone or combine with the modified RS? Anyone think Black Flames will happen or something else?
 

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This is not Naruto Moe.

I feel like invisible heat would be cooler anyway.

Sanji should use the suit for now he doesn't need another powerup.
 

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This is not Naruto Moe.

I feel like invisible heat would be cooler anyway.

Sanji should use the suit for now he doesn't need another powerup.
Idk, he does have similar traits to Naruto especially since he was the 'original' Naruto after all. Black Flames is possible for Black Leg himself as you never know. Also that form from by himself or from suit or mixture as it's not really new power-up, but add-on from his training and/or modification.
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black flames? how? blue flames at best..
I like blue flames too...Actually could it be link with Macro as his DF is blue-flames as it be interesting if it pass the torch of that technique to Sanji.
 

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Honestly, just make Hell’s Memories a full transformation and expand the Well Cooked techniques.

If Raid Suit is permanent, he could use Diable Jambe to boost the accelerators. It'd potentially create new "Walks" for him. Also, improve Sky Walk or Blue Walk.

I do not expect him to keep invisibility.
 

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Honestly, just make Hell’s Memories a full transformation and expand the Well Cooked techniques.

If Raid Suit is permanent, he could use Diable Jambe to boost the accelerators. It'd potentially create new "Walks" for him. Also, improve Sky Walk or Blue Walk.

I do not expect him to keep invisibility.
Honestly looking how he use suit, he use more for stealth missions than source of power given he can still fight great without it as shown. He still training without it on him, so RS won't be as reliance nature to as more for situational type of wanting to learn info on things or stealth-like operation perhaps, but fighting will be always his own power.
 

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I like blue flames too...Actually could it be link with Macro as his DF is blue-flames as it be interesting if it pass the torch of that technique to Sanji.
i mean, blue is the brightest a flame can get..... black isnt possible unless a different universe.
 

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Honestly looking how he use suit, he use more for stealth missions than source of power given he can still fight great without it as shown. He still training without it on him, so RS won't be as reliance nature to as more for situational type of wanting to learn info on things or stealth-like operation perhaps, but fighting will be always his own power.
I personally just don't see Nami letting him (more accurately, Franky and Usopp) keep it after she caught him peeping on the girls.

i mean, blue is the brightest a flame can get..... black isnt possible unless a different universe.
I mean, it's One Piece. There's no telling what can happen.
 

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I personally just don't see Nami letting him (more accurately, Franky and Usopp) keep it after she caught him peeping on the girls.



I mean, it's One Piece. There's no telling what can happen.
Which is another reason why I said Sanji won't rely on it as sense of power as it was never for that as it came for disguise when facing PO. his is strong his own right, but suit could be training suit for him kinda like wearing weights on your body before taking them off to be much stronger than before, but it won't be something he rely on unless he need stealth missions situations.
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i mean, blue is the brightest a flame can get..... black isnt possible unless a different universe.
True which is why I see something Macro and Sanji connection on how to raise the heat frequency of his flames reaching blue fire or different colors.
 

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Which is another reason why I said Sanji won't rely on it as sense of power as it was never for that as it came for disguise when facing PO. his is strong his own right, but suit could be training suit for him kinda like wearing weights on your body before taking them off to be much stronger than before, but it won't be something he rely on unless he need stealth missions situations.
But the RS actually heavily boost strength and defense. Sanji taking it off wouldn't be like Rock Lee taking out the weights. Sanji's very strong in his own right but the RS is a weaponized suit that makes him stronger.
 
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