Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[Grandmaster Woro]

Nah, Zoro vs Queen as we need a flier to face King instead, but Queen vs Zoro can be interesting to see and Sanji and Zoro don't fight woman much, so Idk what you mean there. Oda make it clear they fight them the same due to personal traits, so that illogical thinking your going there.

zoro can hit enemy from far away easily with his flying slashes.
Queen mentioned something about judge when he saw sanji's bounty poster. It's a hint that queen has some background story to vinsmoke judge, so the evidence gives more speculation for sanji vs judge.

 

[Nie Li]

King isn't a long-range fighter as far as we have seen. He attacks close-range, so flying is not a necessary skill to fight him, and it's likely Marco will be the one to fight him either way since they're both flaming rare bird zoan users and YC1 of their respective crews.

No idea who Sanji will face but he will get a solo fight sooner or later, once he manages to run away from Black Maria.

Actually, he has a chance to defeat Black Maria as well.

If BM's real body is the spider-head and the lady is a puppet, or if it's a SMILE and the spider has a different identity like other SMILE-users, then there's a chance that the spider is male. Sanji can beat it up in that case.

 

[Fox666]

then there's a chance that the spider is male. Sanji can beat it up in that case.

Good call.

But... that puppet was cuddling with Kaido early on?

 

[King Moe]

zoro can hit enemy from far away easily with his flying slashes.
Queen mentioned something about judge when he saw sanji's bounty poster. It's a hint that queen has some background story to vinsmoke judge, so the evidence gives more speculation for sanji vs judge.

Apoo says otherwise on that. Zoro missed hitting him far away each time. King too fast for Zoro and need someone else for that. Plus Queen does see Zoro a issue like Sanji so he be after him more given interactions build between them. Sanji vs King have issues that need to be deal with in their fight on their side though.

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King isn't a long-range fighter as far as we have seen. He attacks close-range, so flying is not a necessary skill to fight him, and it's likely Marco will be the one to fight him either way since they're both flaming rare bird zoan users and YC1 of their respective crews.

No idea who Sanji will face but he will get a solo fight sooner or later, once he manages to run away from Black Maria.

Actually, he has a chance to defeat Black Maria as well.

If BM's real body is the spider-head and the lady is a puppet, or if it's a SMILE and the spider has a different identity like other SMILE-users, then there's a chance that the spider is male. Sanji can beat it up in that case.

That doesn't make sense at all. He still hitting a woman's body. Maria is not for him. He is above T6H lvl already. YC lvl opponent will be for him being King or Queen (More so King). Better give to matchups to rest of Strawhats for T6H than taking one to be honest.

 

[Prince13333]

Nah, Zoro vs Queen as we need a flier to face King instead, but Queen vs Zoro can be interesting to see and Sanji and Zoro don't fight woman much, so Idk what you mean there.

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More possible then what your stating about other choices especially we all know Sanji and Jimbei aren't at best T6H and are YC lvl power which is why they face YC lvl opponents later and switch with different characetrs. King is more reasonable one given them of Sky Fight since he is only flier in the crew while Jimbei get Jack given Underwater nature of their fight and Queen vs Zoro will be full-on land battle. Also not good wayt o compare as WCI was never about beating Big Mom and her whole crew while Wano arc is about that in beating Kaido and his crew. Those arc are not one of the same for that situation.

We don't know if Sanji or any straw hat other than Luffy really is Yonko Commander level Or not, Your underestimating the Tobi Roppo. Jimbei(a former warlord) is matched up with Who's Who right now. Franky is matched up with Sasaki, but Franky might get Smacked up tbh.

 

[Nie Li]

That doesn't make sense at all. He still hitting a woman's body. Maria is not for him. He is above T6H lvl already. YC lvl opponent will be for him being King or Queen (More so King). Better give to matchups to rest of Strawhats for T6H than taking one to be honest.

I already explained it might not be a woman's body at all. So yes, it makes sense.

 

[Monox D. I-Fly]

King isn't a long-range fighter as far as we have seen. He attacks close-range, so flying is not a necessary skill to fight him, and it's likely Marco will be the one to fight him either way since they're both flaming rare bird zoan users and YC1 of their respective crews.

I see your point, but King isn't a bird Zoan.

 

[Nie Li]

I see your point, but King isn't a bird Zoan.

You're right, but you get my point.

 

[King Moe]

We don't know if Sanji or any straw hat other than Luffy really is Yonko Commander level Or not, Your underestimating the Tobi Roppo. Jimbei(a former warlord) is matched up with Who's Who right now. Franky is matched up with Sasaki, but Franky might get Smacked up tbh.

Pretty sure Robin and Brook are coming in to for Sanji and Jimbei to replace them to join with Luffy to go on top. They be facing YC lvl threats since already proven they are above T6H lvl.

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I already explained it might not be a woman's body at all. So yes, it makes sense.

Nah it doesn't unless she at a Smile, but it been confirmed a DF and still her body, so Sanji won't hit her still.

 

[Nie Li]

Nah it doesn't unless she at a Smile, but it been confirmed a DF and still her body, so Sanji won't hit her still.

If you had bothered to read my post, I gave another explanation.

 

[King Moe]

If you had bothered to read my post, I gave another explanation.

Puppet is not likely either lol.

 

[Nie Li]

Puppet is not likely either lol.

It's a possibility. Whether it is likely or not is not the point.

You said that the theory "doesn't make sense", and it does:

- We know that it's a spider.

- We know that it's the kind of spider that can use threads.

- Hence, he can possibly make a thread puppet like Doflamingo.

The possibility is there. You can think that you don't believe this will happen, but you can't say it doesn't make sense, because it does.

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It's also one way to explain that it has two faces, which is very hard to explain without this theory.

 

[King Moe]

It's a possibility. Whether it is likely or not is not the point.

You said that the theory "doesn't make sense", and it does:

- We know that it's a spider.

- We know that it's the kind of spider that can use threads.

- Hence, he can possibly make a thread puppet like Doflamingo.

The possibility is there. You can think that you don't believe this will happen, but you can't say it doesn't make sense, because it does.

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It's also one way to explain that it has two faces, which is very hard to explain without this theory.

Puppet that was right next to Kaido though and hugging him? The theory is less likely even to be optimistic. Nothing against your own opinion, but just saying it's quite farfetch. Sanji have no time for someone like her as clear as he needs to go somewhere. Though could be Viola and Pudding situation if he does change her to ally given his charms .

 

[Nie Li]

Puppet that was right next to Kaido though and hugging him? The theory is less likely even to be optimistic. Nothing against your own opinion, but just saying it's quite farfetch. Sanji have no time for someone like her as clear as he needs to go somewhere. Though could be Viola and Pudding situation if he does change her to ally given his charms .

I'm not saying the theory is perfect but it's not impossible. It could always be hiding his real body just like Trebor did in his own way. Though in this case since it's still a zoan it reveals itself when it's time to fight seriously.

Do you have other ways to explain why it has a second face?

 

[Monox D. I-Fly]

Do you have other ways to explain why it has a second face?

There are some species of spiders whose back looks like a face.

 

[Nie Li]

There are some species of spiders whose back looks like a face.

That is true, but in this case it was in its front and it had its tongue out, so I don't personally think that's it.

I'm sure the explanation will just be a simple one, but if it's not a SMILE I can't think of a better one than the puppet thing.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Apoo says otherwise on that. Zoro missed hitting him far away each time. King too fast for Zoro and need someone else for that. Plus Queen does see Zoro a issue like Sanji so he be after him more given interactions build between them. Sanji vs King have issues that need to be deal with in their fight on their side though.

Nope, you misinterpreted what I said. Not saying zoro's flying slashes are invincible, but it proved that zoro can fight enemy far away (why else would apoo bother to avoid the attack if the attacks couldn't reach him?), so zoro already has the proper skillsets to fight king.
What's the issue of queen towards zoro? Show me that.
What's the issue of king towards sanji? Show me that. If anything, king doesn't even care about sanji since he just leaves him after he overwhelmed sanji.

 

[Prince13333]

Pretty sure Robin and Brook are coming in to for Sanji and Jimbei to replace them to join with Luffy to go on top. They be facing YC lvl threats since already proven they are above T6H lvl.

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Nah it doesn't unless she at a Smile, but it been confirmed a DF and still her body, so Sanji won't hit her still.

No if anything Brook and Robin are gonna tag team Black Maria, they can't 1v1 topi roppo that wouldn't make sense.....Brook and chopper got fodderized by perospero an arc ago..... Jimbei's fight with Who's Who is locked in at this point. It wouldn't make any sense for anyone to take over Jimbei's fight....if anything it make Jimbei look bad tbh.

 

[Fox666]

Nope, you misinterpreted what I said. Not saying zoro's flying slashes are invincible, but it proved that zoro can fight enemy far away (why else would apoo bother to avoid the attack if the attacks couldn't reach him?), so zoro already has the proper skillsets to fight king.
What's the issue of queen towards zoro? Show me that.
What's the issue of king towards sanji? Show me that. If anything, king doesn't even care about sanji since he just leaves him after he overwhelmed sanji.

I'm under the impression that for swordsmen in One Piece world, distance greatly decreases the power of their attacks.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

I'm under the impression that for swordsmen in One Piece world, distance greatly decreases the power of their attacks.

True, but it's not like king is flying miles away. I mean, oden cannot fly but he can still fight the flying kaido.