Discussion Straw Hat's Crew Strength (Ranking)

[senewe]

I think chopper deserve more. well, i dun think rob lucy can beat monster chopper..

and for me it's difficult to rate these people. you say luffy is at the top, but can he beat Mr 1? I don't think so. while zorro couldn't stand a second vs enel. and what about luffy vs franky, but the battle ground is at the ship??

 

[Diablos]

Usopp is the muscle weakest but in terms of using the brain he is no doubt number one, if not number two behind Nami.

Erm what about robin?

My ranks are the same as general.

Luffy
Zoro
Sanji
Franky/Brooke
Robin( we never see much of her so I cant put her above franky or brooke)
Chopper
Nami/Usopp

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I think chopper deserve more. well, i dun think rob lucy can beat monster chopper..

and for me it's difficult to rate these people. you say luffy is at the top, but can he beat Mr 1? I don't think so. while zorro couldn't stand a second vs enel. and what about luffy vs franky, but the battle ground is at the ship??

When Chopper learns how to control that beast innerself he might be considered above but without control of it its pretty much useless randomly aiming anything near it.

In the crew the only one that might be able to confront the recent luffy is Zoro since sanji doesnt seem to have haki or atleast yet he can't affect luffy. In the other hand Zoro swords can. I think Luffy would wipe Franky pretty fast if he went gear second, zoro might whitstand it since we've seen him avoid beams from kuma and even showing incredible speed doing shinshin thingy on him.

 

[firework]

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"Franky/Brooke
Robin( we never see much of her so I cant put her above franky or brooke)"

actually, we've seen more battles and techs from robin than from brooke. Brooke hasnt even been shown in his own full length real battle (unless you count Ryuuma). Robin's had Pell, Sky Fatty (Yama i think), and some feats against Aokiji and Foxy pirates

 

[Dice]

nami just has to use her fists against luffy and she will win ^^

I just terribly misread your post....but that way it was waaayy funnier

 

[chess4]

Erm what about robin?

My ranks are the same as general.

Luffy
Zoro
Sanji
Franky/Brooke
Robin( we never see much of her so I cant put her above franky or brooke)
Chopper
Nami/Usopp
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When Chopper learns how to control that beast innerself he might be considered above but without control of it its pretty much useless randomly aiming anything near it.

In the crew the only one that might be able to confront the recent luffy is Zoro since sanji doesnt seem to have haki or atleast yet he can't affect luffy. In the other hand Zoro swords can. I think Luffy would wipe Franky pretty fast if he went gear second, zoro might whitstand it since we've seen him avoid beams from kuma and even showing incredible speed doing shinshin thingy on him.

i dont understand why people consistently put usopp at the bottom. yes he is physically the weakest but his battle IQ is among the higest in the crew. not to mention he might be the fastest runner of the crew he was totally outmatched agaisnt luffy, but he analyzed luffy and turned luffy's own strengths against him. usopp is a long range fighter and has various attacks.

the strawhats are somewhat a younger red hairs crew. their top 4 members mirror the red hairs and yes im saying ussop is one of them.

as far as fighting goes i would say their is the monster trio, robin, usopp, frankie,chopper, then nami/brook.

 

[bittman]

Battle IQ amongst the highest? If by highest you mean at least behind Nami, Robin, Chopper and Sanji, then sure.

Running away, yeah he's not bad at that, but CP9 were always pretty much able to catch him quite easily when he used the typical smoke bomb routine.

Also, Franky kinda beat Ussop on Water 7. Not enough of Ussop has changed since then to have gone beyond Franky. At best Ussop might be able to trick Franky a bit and then put a needle in his butt, but beyond that nothing significant.

Brooke is also quite speedy, and the Ussop+Nami+Chopper combo were all one-shotted by Ryuuma, who Brooke fought for a few minutes at least before being outmatched.

Nami may use Ussop's tools, but that doesn't mean Ussop even understands what she does with them.

And Chopper...well Chopper is a bit all over the place. Mentally he's potentially the weakest in battle until Brain Point comes out, at which point he's right up there. He's undeniably smart enough to be a doctor, but is still an apprentice in that respect. Physically he is versatile and up there with physical powerhouses like Franky. But he's been a bit on the losing side of battles lately with a reliance on Monster Point.

I think perhaps you WANT Ussop to be powerful, because he is a favourite of us all, and a favourite of Oda's. But we like Ussop because he is weak. Without characters like him, it would just be one of those goddawful mangas where everyone ever is powerful and battles are entirely dependent upon what scouters say.

 

[Ashura_Ichibugin]

It is interesting that people put Brook above Franky and Robin. My personal list is below:

Luffy
Zoro
Sanji
Franky/Robin
Brooke
Chopper
Nami
Usopp

It is very similar to everyone else's.

 

[Fox666]

Hmm, if we would go by IQ, it would be an interesting analysis.

1 - Chopper
The most intelligent of the Strawhats. High brain power, added to a good situation analysis and medicine knowledge.
Some pages of the Oars battle:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/472/13/ (jaw stragegy)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/13/ (destroying the arm stragegy)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/15/ (managed to get in Oars)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/480/16/ (destroying spine stragey)
And as you can see in the last picture, Chopper is the biggest responsible for Oars destruction.

2 - Robin
Robin is very smart. While it's more over intelectual work than strategy, she still is quick thinking and good in analyzing the situation.

3 - Nami
Smark and quick thinking, but behind Robin. Yet she got share some of Usopp creativity, which works together.

4 - Usopp
Usopp has some good tricks, but he still lacks the ability to put them in battle. When his tools become more devastating it's by luck rather than planning.

5 - Franky
High knowledge that let him do his machanical job. Too bad he is hot head and "Hulk smash" style in combat.

Out of that, Sanji has an average intelligence. Brook is also average, despite the eccentric behavior. Luffy and Zoro are below the average, or at least don't work their intelligence.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Out of that, Sanji has an average intelligence

I'd rank Sanji better as he is so far the only strategist among the crew. And I guess that's why he said he will become one day the man the most feared by the Marine.
Do you remember how " Mr Prince " tricked Crocodile and save the SH crew in Rainbase ? Do you remember how " The Hunter " save the SH in EL because he tricked all the marine battleships with the current of the water surrounding the island ?
Seriously, Sanji is the one that thinks how to fight before acting.

 

[Gats]

Hmm, if we would go by IQ, it would be an interesting analysis.

1 - Chopper
The most intelligent of the Strawhats. High brain power, added to a good situation analysis and medicine knowledge.
Some pages of the Oars battle:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/472/13/ (jaw stragegy)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/13/ (destroying the arm stragegy)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/15/ (managed to get in Oars)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/480/16/ (destroying spine stragey)
And as you can see in the last picture, Chopper is the biggest responsible for Oars destruction.

2 - Robin
Robin is very smart. While it's more over intelectual work than strategy, she still is quick thinking and good in analyzing the situation.

3 - Nami
Smark and quick thinking, but behind Robin. Yet she got share some of Usopp creativity, which works together.

4 - Usopp
Usopp has some good tricks, but he still lacks the ability to put them in battle. When his tools become more devastating it's by luck rather than planning.

5 - Franky
High knowledge that let him do his machanical job. Too bad he is hot head and "Hulk smash" style in combat.

Out of that, Sanji has an average intelligence. Brook is also average, despite the eccentric behavior. Luffy and Zoro are below the average, or at least don't work their intelligence.

About Chopper : the example you took is more about knowledge than intelligence. Of course Chopper is intelligent, but basically he made this strategy because it's within his speciality : medecine. But beyond this Sanji is definitively smarter than him, Chopper is too naive and has (cute) flaws which would forbid him to be the "head" in general.

 

[chess4]

i agree whole heartedly with lord rayleigh and gatsuga. sanji has definitely been shown to be the strategist of the group. alabasta and ennies lobby, his planning saved the strawhats.

 

[Fox666]

I'd rank Sanji better as he is so far the only strategist among the crew. And I guess that's why he said he will become one day the man the most feared by the Marine.
Do you remember how " Mr Prince " tricked Crocodile and save the SH crew in Rainbase ? Do you remember how " The Hunter " save the SH in EL because he tricked all the marine battleships with the current of the water surrounding the island ?
Seriously, Sanji is the one that thinks how to fight before acting.

I agree. I did not remember the Mr. Prince thing. That was very annoying for Crocodile...

 

[TwEeD]

Oda has stated that Usopp is made to seem humanlike.

Seem, yes, but is he? Usopp has shown on many occasions to be able to take A LOT of punishment and still be able to stand and fight (most notably the fight in Arabasta with the Mole lady and the pitcher. Dude gets trashed beyond recognition sometimes but keeps on going, far beyond what mere humans in One Piece can take

 

[kkck]

A lot of people mention chopper learning how to control his monster point but is that even remotely plausible? Monster point is a transformation achievable by drugging himself and entirely messing himself up. Not only that but it physically causes him severe harm. I don't think actual mastery over monster point is plausible as it is nor it can be achieved through any form of training. Perhaps it could be controlled by improving the formula behind the rumble balls but even then it should cause him considerably physical harm to use the form. i think chopper should go another way if he intends to power up.

 

[bittman]

A lot of people mention chopper learning how to control his monster point but is that even remotely plausible? Monster point is a transformation achievable by drugging himself and entirely messing himself up. Not only that but it physically causes him severe harm. I don't think actual mastery over monster point is plausible as it is nor it can be achieved through any form of training. Perhaps it could be controlled by improving the formula behind the rumble balls but even then it should cause him considerably physical harm to use the form. i think chopper should go another way if he intends to power up.

Honestly speaking, I think the rumble balls are a bit of a mistake on Chopper's part. We've seen many Zoans already acheive a better level of control than Chopper without the need for drugs, and we've been introduced to Awakened Zoans, and I'm sure they're not drugged to the bone on Chopper's original invention.

What I'm looking forward to is a Chopper that doesn't have a 3 minute limit (basically a moot timer nowdays since most battles go longer) and that trains his devil fruit powers.

And it's quite possible the Monster form is the awakened zoan form, but because he forced it upon himself unnaturally, as opposed to using whatever the true method of "awakening" is, his mind becomes corrupted by the drug.

And finally: Monster form would not beat Rob Lucchi. Other than that one cp9 dude, monster form has been relatively useless against everyone else in One Piece.

 

[DLord.Van.Buuren]

hoping that after this chopper wont have a need for those drugs , still his strongest form monster point will take time to fully master it without his drugs .

 

[BetaRuler]

I would also put Sanji near the top for intelligence...

Not to forget him getting on the sea train to try rescuing Robbin, he often seems to have the right idea of where to look, detaching the carrages to cut the enemy numbers down including Captain T-Bone, and telling Usopp to get to the top of the Judical tower so that Usopp could help with his sniper skills.
... Lastly using Usopp to distract Eneru while he sabotaged the arc, obviously a brilliant plan! hahaha

 

[undertoe]

I don't see how any of you guys could rank Nami above Usopp... ALL of Nami's power comes from her weapon... which was invented by Usopp. Without Usopp, Nami would be nothing. If you really think Usopp won't have made a stronger weapon for himself, you people are crazy.

 

[bittman]

I don't see how any of you guys could rank Nami above Usopp... ALL of Nami's power comes from her weapon... which was invented by Usopp. Without Usopp, Nami would be nothing. If you really think Usopp won't have made a stronger weapon for himself, you people are crazy.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/381/07/

Because Ussop really has absolutely no grasp about Nami's skill. Sure, Ussop is technically "strong", but this is a battle rating. Even if Ussop could make the ultimate weapon, it doesn't make him strong if he's unable to use it's full potential.

In Ussop's hands, the Climatact would be a stick with bubbles. In Nami's hands, she's suddenly extremely powerful. If it wasn't for her somewhat weak physical nature (though that's up for debate since she jumps over W7 buildings quite well), Nami would easily be near the top. Her attacks all have the potential to take out even some of the stronger strawhats, but her inability to take, or easily avoid, hits, puts her near the bottom.

That said, with the mirage technique she found, I'd be curious to see how she goes against fighters such as Franky, Brooke, Robin or Chopper. There is actually potential for Nami to defeat them given the right scenario.

 

[St Michael]

I would agree with Brook (physically weak as well) , and maybe Franky (he's made of steel , I don't know how he would react to thunder).

But Nami CAN'T defeat Robin without attacking her by surprise. Robin just have to clutch all of the Namis.
The real one would end broken anyway.

Chopper it depends. Monster Chopper is nowhere near Nami level.

Overall , Nami is really weak (I consider her that way , at least). She is clearly useless against strong opponents and her skills make her usefull only to mop on the nobody crowd.

Imo , the SH , from strongest to weakest :
- Luffy , obviously
- Zoro
- Sanji , but not that far from Zoro.
- Franky , good offensive potential , tough and seems clever in fights.
- Chopper would be there if he mastered the Monster Point. Maybe even above Franky. But at the moment he's weaker than Robin. (see below)
- Nico Robin , usefull skills for mass pwnage and 1 target murder. She would go down with a few hit however.
- Brook , looks like he will improve his skills a lot in the near future. He's not tough at all , but he will clearly be able to inflict serious damages.
- Ussop , sniper , good potential. Still weak at the moment. I'm looking forward for his powerup. Maybe he'll stop at being a coward or maybe he'll improve his weapon. He may be stronger than Brook afterward.
- Nami , the weakest link.