I’m talking about when ancologia and ignia claimed themselves to be strongest should we ignore them as well? (If ur asking to prove it I will later kinda busy that’s if u haven’t responded yet to this)
Lol u know that was at the heat of the moment at that time right? Things changed when new chapters come out . I also beleive that laxus>erza since forever the problem is that u argue something that u contradict that u believe (unless u change ur mind then that’s different)
sometimes u are sometimes u don’t u argue something u don’t believe I notice it’s only for erza’s sake
normally yes. if a bad guy hypes him or herself, then that statement is extremely suspicious.
like Dragon Eileen saying no human can stop Deus Sema, a hype i would easily ignore
same for Kirin, calling himself the strongest.
Third party hype is better.
So Selene saying Kirin is one of the strongest. made him, in my opinion, the strongest. but the difference between him and the next person (who is compared to him) is very small.
So for DDSK
i rank like this
Kirin >= Misaki > Suzaku > Haku
if a bad guy is hyped (you can include feats or mp here, Suzaku and brandish) with relative to good guys (Suzaku one shotting natus, Natsu sh!tting himself looking at brandish, jura > Mira + erza or Phantom arc S class = Fairy tail S class) it is always wrong.
people can make prediction easily from this. check tournament after Suzaku one shotting natsu and erza. so did i, and i was correct
I dont know about that man, lol. the point is, i have been saying since forever, that laxus and erza are around each other. that if laxus beat erza, Happy will be able to take laxus out afterwards. i think, i said this, like 4 years ago maybe.
and behold, i was correct.
But the crowd here, and you know of them. always gives erza a hard time. from
@grey matter claiming DS seal is a power up, to
@Axiomus claiming SO is much higher jump than three months training, and laxus might not have trained before GMG or
@Seven777 claiming erza needed power up from all the team natsu to compete with laxus
then i sometimes like to create a balance, rather than have forum of wankers only lol
as for my belief
Laxus > = Erza
this was truth since start of fairy tail and still is (
@grey matter recently figured out that relative power ranking among the good guys dont change, much)
this does not take into account pof type things
as for DDSK
Kirin most likely can beat Misaki 6 out of 10 times, and lose the rest. Which would explain Selene statement and Kirin silliness after losing to laxus.
why kirin gave laxus a hard time. because of that coffin. i said it from the start, that laxus had most problem with that coffin.
and now laxus and kirin are at each other throat, kinda like gray and natsu.
which gives a us a clear idea what mishma thinks about kirin and laxus power levels relative to each other.
So ever in confusion, ask me, i will explain everything.
Want to see this forum bais, check old tournaments and vs threads.
@grey matter has a lovely example in erza vs mystogan thread, showing what little he needs to throw erza under the bus
or you can also check power level thread, note the dates after the chapter comes out.
. Lol if this isn't delusional I don't know what is.
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. See you in the next chapter thread. Best advice don't think too much of the fights in this series. Fights are just for "So the kids can say isn't that cool".
His loss to Tenrou Ultear is what made him steal Fairy Heart. And even with that he can't beat Acnologia, he's fodder for Acno POF Natsu Igneel Ignia and even Selene.
