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To be honest I am a big fan of FFIX. What is the general perception of that particular installment? I also read that the maker of the game actually thought that was the version which most resembles what he thinks is an ideal FF game (wikipedia though) and that is the game he would like to make a sequel for the most. Hopefully he will someday get to that, I would actually buy a game console solely for that game lol.
I don't remember FFIX that well but I can tell you that I wasn't a big fan of it. I've only played it once and that was when it first came out. So its been a while and could be just that, but something in it made me never to want to play that game again. It could be the fact that the main character had a tail or that it really was a homage to the old games... and after VII and VIII felt like a let down, I think?
 
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Hironobu Sakaguchi has posted his original idea of FFIX if you're interested.

SE is going to release Final Fantasy trading cards. It will be out on Feb. 25, 2011.
 

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^That is not very different from what actually happened though...

Anyways, I recently acquired final fantasy VIII although I haven't been able to really get into it. I also tried to get final fantasy VII but I can't see to get a hold of the game. I was able to purchase 8 and 9 sealed and brand new for 20 dollars each but I can't seem to find that with final fantasy VII. I can only find "vintage" stuff which sells for hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
 

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ff8 is best final fantasy IMO ..

better story and characters way above 7.

7 is ranted as best mainly for nostalgia it was the first to go 3d the plot is quite weak and not really likeable characters.

i got 7,8,9 quite easy here in uk brand new. try online best option
 

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^ I tried online including ebay and a number of independent online video stores. Not a single one of them had FFVII (except PSP version which is less than helpful).
 

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http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/113/1139008p1.html

Laguna is in Dissidia 012

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss im happy ...was hoping Seifer or Laguna to appear from FF8
<hr noshade size="1">

no idea why had to find the largest screen shot in the interweb

but fighting stlye

can hold down button for continuous attack, move and shoot...EX burst uses alot of guns,rocket launchers

also the fact he is Squalls Daddy could throw some intresting plot into story..if SE use that element of course
 
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To be honest I am a big fan of FFIX. What is the general perception of that particular installment? I also read that the maker of the game actually thought that was the version which most resembles what he thinks is an ideal FF game (wikipedia though) and that is the game he would like to make a sequel for the most. Hopefully he will someday get to that, I would actually buy a game console solely for that game lol.
First off: sorry for beeing late :darn... For me FFIX was one of the best FF games i played so far and imo it also remsembles an ideal FF game. Maybe because i'd choose Fantasy over Steampunk if i have the choice. But it's maybe the only FF game where i really like every playable char without restriction of any kind ( ok maybe Quina a tiny little bit for beeing erm mentaly out of the world ...). Even the whole cast of antagonist, even if kuja was a shot to continue Sephiroth's legacy. ( i just tend to eraise Queen Brahne from my memory!!!)
The whole Setting, with it's architecure and level/city design was fabulous and never out of the picture imo. And a nother nearly perfected cast were the eidolons. Just a few but a great selenction of those and up till now, Ark is still optically my favorite. Plus Madeen was obviously the answer to the fan protests, why greever wasn't a gf imo! well before i spam more im sum it up: i adore FFIX and its in my top 3 ff fav's.

^That is not very different from what actually happened though...

Anyways, I recently acquired final fantasy VIII although I haven't been able to really get into it. I also tried to get final fantasy VII but I can't see to get a hold of the game. I was able to purchase 8 and 9 sealed and brand new for 20 dollars each but I can't seem to find that with final fantasy VII. I can only find "vintage" stuff which sells for hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
^ I tried online including ebay and a number of independent online video stores. Not a single one of them had FFVII (except PSP version which is less than helpful).


Do you want to have the actual game in your collection or just (re)play it? If its the latter, then you could dowload it from the psn store.



ff8 is best final fantasy IMO ..

better story and characters way above 7.

7 is ranted as best mainly for nostalgia it was the first to go 3d the plot is quite weak and not really likeable characters.

i got 7,8,9 quite easy here in uk brand new. try online best option
Even if he'd get a UK-version he would still be stuck with the game in his rack, because of the PAL norm. The result might be, that buying a great in shape vintage version isn't much more expensive then finding a us store who'll still insert regional code/norm free chips. I even dunno if this was in any way famous in the us as it was in europe, because of the lack of released games here?!

P.S.: Modding a us Psx to be able to play PAL games might be a first anyway and does it even work to convert the higher PAL solution to NTSC? I mean if the game was really adjusted to PAL it should cause seriously problems even with an adapter...
 
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^Well, I intent to play on my computer for the most part so I don't care if I just download it. As long as I can play it on my computer anything is good for me. I think downloads are only for PS3 and PSP though.


I really liked eidolons in FFIX though. I was really hooked with those. Only thing I disliked was that using them to their full potential took some time to say the least. Gathering all those pesky stones took too long. I gathered most of them except the leviathan one, gathering 400 ores just for that actually bored me. I stopped caring for vivi halfway through the game though. I liked the fact that he had a variety of attacks but as the game advanced even the supposedly high level spells lost purpose. Doomsday was good but setting everything so that characters don't die from it was too troublesome. In the end I could easily replace vivi with garnet(seriously, all elemental advantages and decent healing along with arc). I did like combining auto repel with vivi's spells though, I was doing 9999 damage by disc two lol (the combination loses purpose when other characters can do that kind of damage without the hassle). Steiner was always in my team too, climhazzard and shock just pawned. I never really did have a team which I preferred over others(I just disliked vivi lol). It is a bit of a pain to have learn spells but I did find her to be useful mid game. The awkward but varied number of spells is useful. I used mighty guard rather often too, one of the best spells in the game IMO. I stopped using her when I started to focus on getting 9999 damage on all attacks though, I never went through the trouble of getting all the frogs for frog drop. In my mid game I hated freya. Her spells are rather useless in the mid game and jump did nothing. I only really started using her for her best attack which always does 9999 after killing enough dragons. The only redeeming feature I found in zidane was that I always managed to get the good weapons for him very early. In that sense, even his normal attack was ok. Thievery was epic once I got it to the magic number though. I liked amarant, his abilities were always useful and I recall one of them did generally get 9999 damage but for some reason I could never get fit him into my party...


Ok, I have been playing final fantasy 8 for a while and I get the impression I am doing something HORRIBLY wrong. I was watching a video of a fight against norg and I noticed significant differences between my characters and those in the video. Most significant, the characters in the game had between 3 and 4 more hp than mine. The squall I have has around 1200 hp while in the video he had around 4000.... Also the attack command. Squall in video could cause damage of over 400 regularly while the one I use barely reaches 120. Zell could do up to 700 with a critical and I barely do 200. In the video the guy could actually do something without the guardian forces while in turn I can't do crap without them for the most part. I honestly have pulled through my battles thanks to those lol. I get the impression I am not using the junction system all that well. I also barely find any use for the magics, summons work THAT much better....

One of the things which I don't like about characters in FFXIII is that I don't see any distinction between them. Limit breaks are different but is that that important? I actually avoid being that low in hp during battle so I never really get to use them. Every character can have any summon and use any magic in the most indiscriminate way. Am I missing something? Even though limit breaks are drastically different between characters, they don't seem important enough for me to consider choosing a character over another. I know these things are balanced out so that the main thing to consider is subjective but as much as I try I see no difference between zelphie, squall, zell, irvine, and so on. Junction some stuff and they are all clones with the exact same abilities. Seriously, should I give that much consideration to the limit breaks? Quite frankly, the only thought I have given to character selection is on which I get the best compatibility for guardian spirits and thus the most damage.

Magic is another thing. Do I need it? I am halfway through game two and I have yet to have any strategic need of it. Summons have done an overwhelmingly superior job so far. It's not like I have not tried bio, firaga, thundaga and a number of other crap. I have yet to tried ultima (which I just acquired) but unless I invariably get 5000 damage out of it I see no reason for it to be more relevant than summons. Spells take less time than summons to perform but in turn summons deal enough damage for them to actually save time in the long run.

Maybe I got too used to final fantasy IX though? When I played that game I actually gave a lot of thought about which party to use. Each character had actual unique abilities and traits I could exploit in specific battles. I even recall times when the unanimously hated quina proved to be extremely useful at least.

Seriously, what am I missing here? Why is it that a game which is supposed to involve actual strategy from players seem to have characters with no virtual difference and can be tanked through with the same spells? It's not like I have over trained for fights considering that if I level up enemies also do. Why is it that the attack command seems terminally useless, limit breaks serve no purpose whatsoever and there seems to be no difference between characters other than the model? WHAT AM I MISSING?
 
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ok il help with ff8


Junction is the key thing..it only thing you need magic for...i have completed ff8 as a lvl12party.

ulitma junction to elmental def 100 will absorb ALL magic.

in disc 1 you can boost hp by water which can refine from Fish fins from the fish enemies outside garden. also works good to str junction.

ok limit break cheat...have attach water to hp...squall should have bout 3000+ hp ..now when it gets to 1000 it be yellow..keep pressing O button and limit break will appear ...spam it squall has most dangerous limit (if you get lionheart it will destroy anything it does more damage then a lvl100 cloud omnislash in ff7) next to quistis and zell.

you dont need magic of gf in ff8 attack is winnable ..

Squall is most usefull has he has a 220% hit rate from start so he never misses even when blind (dont forget use gunblade trigger R1 before he hits). GF boost (hold select during the attack spamm square button).

it even possible via card game to get the ultimate weapons by end of disc 1
 

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I have been getting a better hang of the junctions now, things are looking less brim (except for the fact that my characters might have too much level lol). Water did not give anything near the HP you mentioned though. Still though, I get the impression there is no real difference between characters for the most part, everyone can learn anything...
 

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a good tatic that might sound crazy is with zell

cast haste, protect, shell, berserk and ZOMBIE

zombie in ff8 adds def and berserk boosts attack he be a beast in battles . ( to bypass the healing magic hurts zombie attach a magic like fire to his def so he absorbs it then cast fire on him to heal him)

water only makes a differance it seems at start of game then but it good to attach to other stats.

a good way to win is attach death to status attack 100 death = 100% death strike on most enemies lvl up a breeze.
 

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Interesting. My main issue before was that I did not quite get the whole junction thing. Now I have a better understanding of the whole thing lol. I think I will just start the game over so as do everything a bit better with better junctions... I could do it now but I'd have to do it all at once rather than gradually and that would kinda be a pain lol. I tried the death thing but I hardly got one hit deaths. Dunno why it does not work (I do have 100 deaths BTW).
 

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just experiment alot with junction..alot people moaned that ff8 didnt have alot of expermination like ff7 materia but i find it is quite deep.

strange the death trick should work.

a good way get high tier magic is the card game...quezacatil (or the thunder bird) has card - refine abilty to learn which gets good items.

to get AP so gf learn abiltys is the beach on balamb garden island..bout 10ap a battle.
 

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just experiment alot with junction..alot people moaned that ff8 didnt have alot of expermination like ff7 materia but i find it is quite deep.

strange the death trick should work.

a good way get high tier magic is the card game...quezacatil (or the thunder bird) has card - refine abilty to learn which gets good items.

to get AP so gf learn abiltys is the beach on balamb garden island..bout 10ap a battle.
I already started experimenting with junction.... I decided to start the game again though, this time I am going to read stuff. Hopefully this time I won't miss little details due to not reading. I also missed siren so I thought I'd get that. I also want to avoid leveling up too much, I had to many levels which I think complicates the game.
 

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Unfortunately, leveling up in FF8 is not recommended, right? The more you level up, the same goes for your opponent. When I was in disc 3 (eight years ago, I can't remember too well), I can't seem to defeat Ultima Weapon because my level was over level 80. I had to restart the game with lower levels and luckily I managed to finish the game.

I guess, the sole thing that will keep the level of the game in playing field is the junction option. Even if you have a low level, you can make your character powerful by junction-ing powerful magic (like Death as Hystzen mentioned).
 

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SE just registered the website, www.finalfantasy13-2game.com. I guess they are hinting that there will be a sequel to FFXIII. Good thing or a bad thing?
 

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SE just registered the website, www.finalfantasy13-2game.com. I guess they are hinting that there will be a sequel to FFXIII. Good thing or a bad thing?
I'm feeling positive about it. The haters came out in droves for Final Fantasy XIII but I very much enjoyed it. Looking at the game by itself a sequel couldn't hurt. My only concern would be how it effects the emotional congruity of the Fabula Nova Crystalis project. Nomura stated that all three games in the project would be something of an overarching tragedy. Of course that was while XIII was still in the making but the game definitely gave you a sense of hopelessness. A XIII sequel isn't bad so long as it stays in line with the emotion that the other games in the project created.

I would suggest NPC interaction, more diverse sidequests, and towns.

News of a XIII sequel is well and good but I'd be more interested in getting a release date for VERSUS XIII. I'd like Square-Enix to make that fantasy come true.
 
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I recently finished final fantasy VIII lol. I read a lot about ultimecia being one of the hardest bosses ever but I don't see how that can be lol. I fought her but it was a bit easy to say the least. Perhaps I should have leveled up to 100 and then fight her lol. Anyways, I am going through the game again (I want that shockwave pulsar for quistis) so perhaps I will level up for the sake of making the game a bit more interesting.
 
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