Discussion The Ten Commandments

[MrSchmitty7]

I think Derieri doesn't wear clothes because of her commandment. My theory is that her commandment of purity activates whenever someone looks at her with lust in their eyes and vice versa for her.

 

[Demonspeed]

These little details about high level Demons we got recently makes me think that their strength ,or potential, or both might be reflected by their looks. The strongest ones look more humanoid than the others. Merascylla looks more Human than most Commandments but unlike the top 4 we see her often with a monster-like mouth and tongue(bits of her potential Indura form I guess). Monspiet's mouth is not seen most of the time but he has one, it's visible before his Indura transformation.

They might get more hearts depending on their PLs too(the stronger they become, the more hearts they get, with 7 being the limit, like Fairies with their wings).

It could explain why Merascylla died after losing 5 hearts even though she is a high level Demon, she is among the youngest if not the youngest, perhaps she could have become much stronger with training, or maybe she had not matured enough.

I think Derieri doesn't wear clothes because of her commandment. My theory is that her commandment of purity activates whenever someone looks at her with lust in their eyes and vice versa for her.

Missed that. Her wearing clothes makes her stand out even more. A Human looked at her with lust once too.

 

[kkck]

These little details about high level Demons we got recently makes me think that their strength ,or potential, or both might be reflected by their looks. The strongest ones look more humanoid than the others. Merascylla looks more Human than most Commandments but unlike the top 4 we see her often with a monster-like mouth and tongue(bits of her potential Indura form I guess). Monspiet's mouth is not seen most of the time but he has one, it's visible before his Indura transformation.

They might get more hearts depending on their PLs too(the stronger they become, the more hearts they get, with 7 being the limit, like Fairies with their wings).

It could explain why Merascylla died after losing 5 hearts even though she is a high level Demon, she is among the youngest if not the youngest, perhaps she could have become much stronger with training, or maybe she had not matured enough.



Missed that. Her wearing clothes makes her stand out even more. A Human looked at her with lust once too.

Well, it really does depend. Clearly there is a potential issue in regards to high class and low class demons to the point where grey and red demons have a specific PL associated with them (1300 and 2700). However the recent cover page makes the point that all ten commandments are upper ranked demons. Well, it does not have greyroad but fraudrin made the point he was upper class as well. With this in mind, the situation would be whether merely being humanoid makes that big a difference in this regard. If galan and estarosa are both upper class demons, then their overall appearance shouldn't be the sole thing that determines how powerful they can be....

I still think that zaratras surviving means merascylla is alive. Even if she only had one heart left.

 

[Kosy]

This seems a bit weird to be honest. With the other commandments you usually fall prey to them when you do something that specifically triggers the commandment. As in, the truth triggers when you lie, the love triggers when you hate, the faith triggers when you act without faith and so on. So how exactly does turning your back on karmadios trigger betrayal? I feel like the translation here is not quite accurate. I could understand if his commandment was, say, courage, and turning your back on him triggered it but that is not the case at all.

The Calmadios thing is especially confusing. Since his commandment involves fleeing from him, doesn't that mean that he should be afflicted because he also ran from his enemies? Or perhaps he absolutely wanted to get information to the other commandments and sacrificed himself by running (therefore falling prey to his commandment) to give them the info. That might explain his own dismissal from the TC.

 

[Gallon]

The Calmadios thing is especially confusing. Since his commandment involves fleeing from him, doesn't that mean that he should be afflicted because he also ran from his enemies? Or perhaps he absolutely wanted to get information to the other commandments and sacrificed himself by running (therefore falling prey to his commandment) to give them the info. That might explain his own dismissal from the TC.

He didn't flee, he was simply defeated and forcefully blown away.
The decree probably acts very loosely, so he wouldn't necessarily be affected if he was interrupted and then returned to the Demon Realm. He never retreated intentionally.

 

[Kosy]

He didn't flee, he was simply defeated and forcefully blown away.
The decree probably acts very loosely, so he wouldn't necessarily be affected if he was interrupted and then returned to the Demon Realm. He never retreated intentionally.

Kinda looked like he did

 

[Gallon]

Kinda looked like he did

He was no longer in battle when he did, so it doesn't really count.

 

[shadow22]

zeldris:
Total Magic Strength Spirit
61,000 10,000 47,200 3,800
greater than meliodas total power level after being ressurected which gave him back the power that he had back when he was a ten commandment which was( 60,000)

estarossa
Total Magic Strength Spirit
60,000 3,000 53,000 4,000 (equal to meliodas power level after being reborn which emphasizes that escanor is stronger than meliodas even after meliodas returned to the power he used to have when he was a ten commandment as fraudrin stated

he was at his former level 60,000 is meliodas former power level
galand:
Total Magic Strength Spirit
27,000 1,000 24,000 2,000

melascylla
Total Magic Strength Spirit
34,000 31,500 500 2,000
monspeet
Total Magic Strength Spirit
53,000 34,000 16,000 3,000
gloxinia

Total Magic Strength Spirit
50,000 47,000 0 3,000

derrierre
Total Magic Strength Spirit
52,000 1,500 48,000 2,500
grayroad
Total Magic Strength Spirit
39,000 26,500 10,000 2,500

fraudrin
Total Magic Strength Spirit
31,000 13,000 15,000 3,000

dolor
Total Magic Strength Spirit
54,000 14,000 36,500 3,500

 

[Gallon]

zeldris:
Total Magic Strength Spirit
61,000 10,000 47,200 3,800
greater than meliodas total power level after being ressurected which gave him back the power that he had back when he was a ten commandment which was( 60,000)

estarossa
Total Magic Strength Spirit
60,000 3,000 53,000 4,000 (equal to meliodas power level after being reborn which emphasizes that escanor is stronger than meliodas even after meliodas returned to the power he used to have when he was a ten commandment as fraudrin stated

he was at his former level 60,000 is meliodas former power level
galand:
Total Magic Strength Spirit
27,000 1,000 24,000 2,000

melascylla
Total Magic Strength Spirit
34,000 31,500 500 2,000
monspeet
Total Magic Strength Spirit
53,000 34,000 16,000 3,000
gloxinia

Total Magic Strength Spirit
50,000 47,000 0 3,000

derrierre
Total Magic Strength Spirit
52,000 1,500 48,000 2,500
grayroad
Total Magic Strength Spirit
39,000 26,500 10,000 2,500

fraudrin
Total Magic Strength Spirit
31,000 13,000 15,000 3,000

dolor
Total Magic Strength Spirit
54,000 14,000 36,500 3,500

Merged your thread with this one. Why did you end up posting this, anyway? We know their power levels.

Oh, and Meliodas' PL is 60,000 without his mark activated, so he's considerably stronger than Estarossa and Zeldris, unless the latter's magic reduces that gap.

 

[LivewireToriko]

zeldris:
Total Magic Strength Spirit
61,000 10,000 47,200 3,800
greater than meliodas total power level after being ressurected which gave him back the power that he had back when he was a ten commandment which was( 60,000)

estarossa
Total Magic Strength Spirit
60,000 3,000 53,000 4,000 (equal to meliodas power level after being reborn which emphasizes that escanor is stronger than meliodas even after meliodas returned to the power he used to have when he was a ten commandment as fraudrin stated

he was at his former level 60,000 is meliodas former power level
galand:
Total Magic Strength Spirit
27,000 1,000 24,000 2,000

melascylla
Total Magic Strength Spirit
34,000 31,500 500 2,000
monspeet
Total Magic Strength Spirit
53,000 34,000 16,000 3,000
gloxinia

Total Magic Strength Spirit
50,000 47,000 0 3,000

derrierre
Total Magic Strength Spirit
52,000 1,500 48,000 2,500
grayroad
Total Magic Strength Spirit
39,000 26,500 10,000 2,500

fraudrin
Total Magic Strength Spirit
31,000 13,000 15,000 3,000

dolor
Total Magic Strength Spirit
54,000 14,000 36,500 3,500

You're 6 months too slow to be posting that.

 

[kkck]

Question, can zeldris fall to his own commandment? So far the condition to trigger the commandment is via turning your back to zeldris. And the consequence is that you become entirely subservient to zeldris. So if the condition is that specific then logically zeldris can't fall prey to it because he can never give his back to himself. Unless there is some mirror loophole around. And then, what if he does fall? he becomes subservient to... himself or the demon king? I feel like I am missing something here.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Question, can zeldris fall to his own commandment? So far the condition to trigger the commandment is via turning your back to zeldris. And the consequence is that you become entirely subservient to zeldris. So if the condition is that specific then logically zeldris can't fall prey to it because he can never give his back to himself. Unless there is some mirror loophole around. And then, what if he does fall? he becomes subservient to... himself or the demon king? I feel like I am missing something here.

Probably to the person whom he had his back turned
.

 

[Demonspeed]

Zeldris should be immune to all the decrees. With God he should be able to bestow and remove them.

 

[Meliodaf]

Zeldris should be immune to all the decrees. With God he should be able to bestow and remove them.

That would explain how Fraudrin had selflessness if he truly had the actual Commandment despite not being bestowed the title by the Demon King

 

[kkck]

That would explain how Fraudrin had selflessness if he truly had the actual Commandment despite not being bestowed the title by the Demon King

Fraudrin didn't have the selflessness commandment. He merely stood in for papa gowther.

 

[Demonspeed]

Meliodas and Zeldris have the same voice, height and weight but they are not twins. Don't you think it's too much of a coincidence?

 

[Meliodaf]

Meliodas and Zeldris have the same voice, height and weight but they are not twins. Don't you think it's too much of a coincidence?

Wait seriously? Where did you see their voices ?

 

[Demonspeed]

Wait seriously? Where did you see their voices ?

We have yet to hear him but they share the same voice actor and Hendrickson(IIRC) said his voice was similar when they awakened.

 

[Baum]

Wait seriously? Where did you see their voices ?

Meliodas and Zeldris talking kind of bookends that new preview for the second season of the anime and like Demonspeed said, Hendrickson was pretty shocked to hear "Meliodas" talk after the commandments' revival.

Ren, the vampire who was with Gelda during the events of Vampires of Edinburgh also mistook Meliodas for his brother when he fought her and even Gelda herself wasn't sure if she wasn't talking to her bf at first.

 

[HereNThere]

Speaking of the Vampires, I wonder if Mel killing Gelda will even be brought up in the main series.