Discussion The Ten Commandments

AiNana

Registered User
中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
Joined
Mar 19, 2016
Messages
156
Reaction score
105
Country
Belgium
I don't think you're looking too much into this; on the contrary, based on the dialogue between King & Mel, I think the reasoning behind your theory couldn't be any more straightforward & on point.

The Demon clan was once the most dominant & prosperous clan, governed by the Emperor who had an enormous family. The strongest amongst them were classed as his own personal Elites & bestowed his very own mark. These Noble Generals were lead by the Emperor's own Son, Meliodas, who'd one day assume the post of Emperor & make daddy proud.

Everything was going according to plan, the people acknowledged Mel & deemed him worthy enough to assume the Emperor's post; everything was going according to structure......until Elizabeth decided to fuck up the whole family by becoming the catalyst to the Clan's destruction with her bewitching love. Tbh, I don't think there's any father in the world that wouldn't be absolutely livid by the betrayal.
You know, you're verry awesome at explaining things. Something I'm not good at;)
But yes that's what I meant.
Hate and love lies close together, look at Estarossa. The DK more so (I think, not enough personality knowledge). Some day it will eventually happen that Mel turn ties. Become king and whatsever commandment, or not...
 

Gaggen

Banned
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2016
Messages
574
Reaction score
385
Age
28
Country
Malaysia
Guys i think the difference in power between demon mel and demon zeldris in the battle tournament is the same as the difference in power between demon estarossa and pre11:30 escanor since they both couldnt see their opponent attacks. People are speculating that demon meliodas power was around 50-60k when he battle dolor and gloxinia. If thats the case zeldris demonic power level should be way above that since speculated (50-60k) meliodas didnt see his attack and even his blade.... does that mean that the 61k power level in the fanbook its zeldris base power level????
 

Escanorzoldyck

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2016
Messages
556
Reaction score
419
Country
Holy Britannian Empire
He was just faster i think
I hope neither zel nor estarossa showed their full power
The gap between them and mel shouldnt be thaaat huge
 

Gaggen

Banned
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2016
Messages
574
Reaction score
385
Age
28
Country
Malaysia
He was just faster i think
I hope neither zel nor estarossa showed their full power
The gap between them and mel shouldnt be thaaat huge
Hmm yeah it would make no sense if their demonic level is on par with his base unless nakaba plans to make him on par with one of the great four angels which is absolutely absurd.....
 

Escanorzoldyck

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2016
Messages
556
Reaction score
419
Country
Holy Britannian Empire
Hmm yeah it would make no sense if their demonic level is on par with his base unless nakaba plans to make him on par with one of the great four angels which is absolutely absurd.....
Even the f.a shouldn't be that strong bcz if they were the demons wouldnt be as strong as the goddesses
Shit power levels are bs
 

Gaggen

Banned
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2016
Messages
574
Reaction score
385
Age
28
Country
Malaysia
Even the f.a shouldn't be that strong bcz if they were the demons wouldnt be as strong as the goddesses
Shit power levels are bs
Yeah... 10c =4a... 10÷4=2.5. It means that each angels should at least be on par with two commandment. Maybe they are like mel who handled both monspiet and derrerie at the same time. Prime mel himself may take on one and maybe the other 3 handles the other 9......
 

Isaiah Thomas

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2016
Messages
411
Reaction score
308
Age
31
Country
United States
Even the f.a shouldn't be that strong bcz if they were the demons wouldnt be as strong as the goddesses
Shit power levels are bs
I don't think the demons are as strong as the goddess without Meliodas. Meliodas kept the goddess at standby soon he left the demon side it was basically open season.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
Hmm yeah it would make no sense if their demonic level is on par with his base unless nakaba plans to make him on par with one of the great four angels which is absolutely absurd.....
How is it absurd, the Goddess feared Meliodas so it's not hard to believe that Prime Meliodas is stronger then the entire Goddess race.
 
Last edited:

Escanorzoldyck

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2016
Messages
556
Reaction score
419
Country
Holy Britannian Empire
I don't think the demons are as strong as the goddess without Meliodas. Meliodas kept the goddess at standby soon he left the demon side it was basically open season.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

How is it absurd, the Goddess feared Meliodas so it's not hard to believe that Prime Meliodas is stronger then the entire Goddess race.
That's absurd
If thats the case then the tc are ants compared to the goddesses who are ants compared to mel
He is probably below the dk and goddesses leader (80k-90k at best )
 

HereNThere

Alive Ain't Always Livin'
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Mangahelper
Joined
Jul 8, 2009
Messages
8,382
Reaction score
12,171
Gender
Male
Country
United States
How is it absurd, the Goddess feared Meliodas so it's not hard to believe that Prime Meliodas is stronger then the entire Goddess race.
They were stalemated for a reason. There had to have been a couple Goddess Clan members that even Mel couldn't easily take on without risk.
 

Isaiah Thomas

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2016
Messages
411
Reaction score
308
Age
31
Country
United States
That's absurd
If thats the case then the tc are ants compared to the goddesses who are ants compared to mel
He is probably below the dk and goddesses leader (80k-90k at best )
Depending on which translation (jaiminisbox.com) you read there are certain Goddess the Ten Commandments didn't go near. Giving what we know now its most likely those were the 4 Angels & Estarosaa said even those Goddesses didn't dare to go near Meliodas.

I don't think the DK is stronger then Prime Meliodas because why would the Goddess attack the Demons after Meliodas left if the Demon King was stronger.
 

Escanorzoldyck

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2016
Messages
556
Reaction score
419
Country
Holy Britannian Empire
Wasnt the dk dead at that moment
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
And for mel to be stronger than an entire race is absurd
 

Isaiah Thomas

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2016
Messages
411
Reaction score
308
Age
31
Country
United States
Wasnt the dk dead at that moment
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
And for mel to be stronger than an entire race is absurd
I responded 2 u but I don't see it so I will write it again. Meliodas, Gloxiana & Dolor defeated the DK which means Meliodas killed him or assisted in his death. That had 2 had happen after Meliodas betrayal so The DK was around when the Goddess went 2 war.
 

kkck

Waifu Slayer
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Sep 3, 2007
Messages
46,280
Reaction score
24,915
Gender
Hidden
Country
Fire Nation
Guys i think the difference in power between demon mel and demon zeldris in the battle tournament is the same as the difference in power between demon estarossa and pre11:30 escanor since they both couldnt see their opponent attacks. People are speculating that demon meliodas power was around 50-60k when he battle dolor and gloxinia. If thats the case zeldris demonic power level should be way above that since speculated (50-60k) meliodas didnt see his attack and even his blade.... does that mean that the 61k power level in the fanbook its zeldris base power level????
Well, you have to consider that meliodas at that point was far from his prime. His transformation even ran out shortly after that. Meliodas had quite rough fight with dolor and gloxinia and took a lot of damage. Mel's power at that stage could have been greater than zeldris' but if we factor in his exhaustion it's not weird that zeldris was able to do that.
 

Yakkun

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Jan 20, 2006
Messages
4,336
Reaction score
4,222
Gender
Male
Country
Germany
There is a Balor level update on the Taizai wiki. Apparently the new Meliodas&Elizabeth guidebook confirms that Meliodas level when he fought Dolor and Gloxinia with the mark on was Magic 3000 / Strength 50000 / Spirit 3000 = Total 56000.

Yeah.... a physical strength that rivals Estarossas. They simply couldn't stand a chance individually.
 

ShadowHeart

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Apr 11, 2010
Messages
6,215
Reaction score
3,039
Age
34
Country
England
There is a Balor level update on the Taizai wiki. Apparently the new Meliodas&Elizabeth guidebook confirms that Meliodas level when he fought Dolor and Gloxinia with the mark on was Magic 3000 / Strength 50000 / Spirit 3000 = Total 56000.

Yeah.... a physical strength that rivals Estarossas. They simply couldn't stand a chance individually.
That's a ridiculous power boost Meliodas gets when he uses his demon mark.
 

Demonspeed

The Bull
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Global Moderator
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
47,661
Reaction score
61,354
Gender
Male
Country
France
So he was that strong even without using his full power. His PL had to be in the 50K but still, 50K in Strength :o and his Magic is already at the equal to Estarossa. Now he is at 60K without even using his mark, which was boosting his powers to that extent in an incomplete state...
 

Selene

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 26, 2016
Messages
334
Reaction score
269
Country
Dragonstone
Still waiting to find out what happened estrarossa and zeldris

I doubt they can be dead.
 

kkck

Waifu Slayer
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Sep 3, 2007
Messages
46,280
Reaction score
24,915
Gender
Hidden
Country
Fire Nation
Wow, I would have expected mel's power when he was fighting dolor and gloxinia to have been at least above 60k. It's kinda surprising that at 56k he could rival dolor and gloxinia who were at 55k and 50k respectively. With this it makes more sense that meliodas would need escanor's opening but it also makes me wonder exactly to what extent the opening allowed this.
 

Kay3795

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Apr 15, 2012
Messages
3,620
Reaction score
2,030
Gender
Male
Country
Nigeria
From 32,500 to 56,000? That almost doubles his freakin PL:s:s..... wait a second, does that imply that he could've easily reached a value around 150k with his full mark in that version that fought the 2 10C? Think about it, prior to getting any of his powers back he went from 3k (base) to 4k (partial) & then to a staggering 10k (supposedly full). This 56k value is roughly representing the 4k (partially Demonized) form. I could only imagine how absurdly powerful the 10k (fully Demonized) version would've been.

Wouldn't be surprised if we reached the 1 million value at this point tbh (this is the same author that made kongou banchou after all).

I'm even more hyped to see the Commandments at full power now since the Darkness gives them tremendous boost. Estarossa might be able to easily reached 100k with the full Darkness form & Zeldris even above that.
 
Last edited:

kkck

Waifu Slayer
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Sep 3, 2007
Messages
46,280
Reaction score
24,915
Gender
Hidden
Country
Fire Nation
There is a Balor level update on the Taizai wiki. Apparently the new Meliodas&Elizabeth guidebook confirms that Meliodas level when he fought Dolor and Gloxinia with the mark on was Magic 3000 / Strength 50000 / Spirit 3000 = Total 56000.

Yeah.... a physical strength that rivals Estarossas. They simply couldn't stand a chance individually.
I am not so sure, at least on numbers alone to me it seems like they should have been comparable. Mel's strength is obviously immense but dolor has 55k and has great strength and magic. His creation magic seems to work on a combination of strength and magic in general (his proportion of strength and magic is comparable to what diane and matrona have going on as well) which easily makes him comparable to mel. Gloxinia has 47k magic which is insane as well and the single highest amount of magic we have seen. Not to mention that in terms of sheer versatility he should far surpass mel and any other demon. And it is worth noting that full counter is basically useless against dolor and/or gloxinia in general.
 
Top