Shounen Toriko by Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro

[Drakno]

not true, there was Aimaru or whatever his name was with his disease diet, as for komatsu's skills I would agree if the ingridients weren't so impossible to handle without spoiling.

 

[N0R7H]

Where I can download the oneshot of Toriko? The link at the first post is dead...

 

[Akiyama]

RAW: http://www.mediafire.com/?g3ercn7tt4382vc
There are no english scans of the oneshot.

 

[ErosVp]

So.... what happened to Saladesu? This forum isn't very lively without her....

 

[Koen]

Saladesu is quite busy with school life but she'll be back. I decided to come back for that reason too. It is time to pimp up the series section but therefor we need member participation, people who discuss etc

 

[Zehahaha]

Is there anyone who thinks that Mansam may be the disciple of Knocking Master Jirou ? They both love alcohol, and have the same technique that literally change their bodies and make it pretty damn huge.

 

[Dasbones]

I don't think he's Jirou's disciple, although he may have learned the technique from him. It's a pretty supplementary technique, and he seems to be similar to Toriko in that he uses hand to hand fighting (from what we've seen so far.) It isn't out of the question, but I doubt it.

And I'm basing that completely off of the fact that he can't have a pompadour; due to his devastating case of bald.

 

[Salce]

I can't remember if I ever published my character map here. But anyway, I've been doing it since last year, and I just update it.

It's basically a concept map showing all the characters, with their affiliations and relationships:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8664/torikocharactermapbysal.jpg

In a future version I'm planing to differenciate Gourmet National Treasures, somehow.
Also, there are character that beside his main title, are also bishokuya. I guess I have to do something about that.
Pets are going to be in the next version too. And maybe nameless characters.

Please let me know if there is any mistake.

 

[Grizzin Farl]

I don't wanna write this in the 194th spoiler section, even though it deals with it.

There's one thing that bugs me a bit and thats Rins device to estimate the capture level of beasts. Firstly, I do think that it's a nice way of story tellingg, a good development for the story and a nice way to estimate "power". Anyways, we learned that the capture level of beasts is not necessairly restricted to its "power". The best examples coming to my mind right now are the "Madame Fish", which is said to have a capture level of nothing less than 83, and the "Shining Gourami", which is said to have a capture level of above 80 because of the "Death Falls"(I know that it's stated, that the Gourami has a capture level below even 1, but that's not the problem here).

I think that for things like the "Ozone Herb", the "Shining Gourami", the "Madame Fish" and other Beasts and Ingridients, capture levels will be a little bit harder to estimate.
Who will set the level? Toriko out of experience, once he gained the ingridient?, like "this was harder than the "Cracked up Roadrunner", but easier than the "Saddle-sored Nag", so it should be about capture level 132."

That device, even though I don't understand how it can estimate "power" (which doesn't really matter because it's shounen and some things just don't need an explanation), is a great way for the measuring of wild beasts, but I think that it lacks the power to estimate things like "special cooking" or "a hard way to get there" (That would be to illogical, even for shounen).

So, how do you think capture levels of those "special cases" will be estimated? Will they stop estimating them? Will they use experience or will the omnicient narrator just declare it? I have complete trust in Shima to figure out a good way.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

I believe this device will be used to measure only capture level of wild beasts and not of the actual ingridients. Of course these beasts can be also ingridients, but still its purpose is find how strong overall the beast you are facing is.
For the ingridients I believe the capture level is set in another way counting the different things (how difficult is to find it, hoiw difficult is to get it, how to prepare it and so on).

 

[Shadoguardian]

Personal short term prediction:

• The Four Heavenly Kings decide to battle one of the Four Beasts each, but argue among themselves which Beast they should take.
• They eventually come to a decision and split up.
• Komatsu goes with Rin, but when he see's the beasts, he instantly knows that each Beast is a Specially Prepared Ingredient, and asks the Kings to fall back.
• After confirming with the Kings that they wish to eat the Beasts, they realize that, since Komatsu is probably the only one who could prepare them, that they will need the Chef to help them.
• They strategize and come to the decision that they will tackle each beast one at a time.
• They defeat the beasts in such a way that they will be tasty (in a similar manner to the Salamander Sphinx) under Komatsu's direction.
• However, after defeating all of them, a fifth beast from the Gourmet World (or maybe Human World's own CLVL 100 beast) appears.
• It too is a Specially Prepared Ingredient, and though exhausted, by recalling all their training, and entering their emergency modes (Toriko: Autophagy; Zebra: Anger; etc.), they manage to defeat it.
• They eat each beast and all of them evolve.

Personal Long Term Prediction:

• Cooking Fest arc:
  
  • After defeating the Four Beasts, Komatsu has gathered certain raw materials (like a fang, bone, claw or piece of shell) from each of them.
  • He is then approached by Kuriboh's apprentice, who offers to make Komatsu a pot, which the Chef accepts, and gives the apprentice the raw materials to make a pot.
  • The apprentice was sent to Komatsu by his Kuriboh, who was in turn asked by Ichiryuu to do this.
  • The pot is made and with it Komatsu enters the Cooking Fest.
  • All the Heavenly Kings also attend the Cooking Fest as part of the audience.
  • The Gourmet Hermit is one of the judges, along with the G7.
  • Setsunoo, Chiru, Nono and the other two Chefs that briefly appeared in chapter 158 also participate. We will also see some of the Chef's mentioned in chapter 156.
  • The Bishokukai also enter some Chefs, including Ootake, as spies and scouts.
  • Komatsu competes in the cooking tournament, and defeats Ootake in cooking, making it to the semi- or quarter-finals before he is narrowly defeated.
  • The Bishokukai launch a covert attack, but are defeated by the Gourmet Hermit, and maybe even the Kings.
• The next arc is Entering the Gourmet World arc/saga:
  
  • Toriko enters the Gourmet World with Komatsu and all the other Heavenly Kings.
  • They start hunting and testing their strength against wild beasts, as well as evolving.
• The next arc is Ichiryuu's Full Course arc/saga:
  
  • Now that they are in the Gourmet World, Komatsu realizes that they can now prepare Ichiryuu's full course.
  • They do so and evolve several times over.
• The next arc is the Kings vs the Jidal Kingdom arc/saga:
  
  • The Kings (or maybe just Komatsu) stumble on to the Jidal Kingdom as they look for Acacia's notebook.
  • A battle occurs, which the Kings manage to win, and they get Acacia's notebook as a spoils of war.
• After getting Acacia's notebook, they start hunting for Acacia's Full Course.

 

[Bucho]

is thos possbile that gourmet world is not only in this planet and there is another planet that is fully gourmet world ?caus eit will be epic!

 

[ShadowHeart]

@Shadoguardian You really have a thing for Komastu don't you.

 

[k-dom]

In last sket dance chapter, bossun is making a request ingredient for toriko ? Does anyone know how it works exactly ? It's a long time since it's done but i never thought to ask. Do fan only sendxthe name or also a sketch like bossun did ?

 

[Shadoguardian]

@Shadoguardian You really have a thing for Komastu don't you.

More like I pity him. I feel sorry for the guy, being the only normal fellow amongst the super humans, and, besides his cooking skills, I don't think that's going to change as he is clearly there to give a normal persons perspective of the opponents. But I also think he is there as a voice of reason. He's also thrown into crazy situations, and they are going to be crazier once they enter the Gourmet World, so I want him to be prepared.

 

[Zehahaha]

Re: Toriko 195 Chapter Discussion

I think that is true and that will give Komatsu something to do.

I also get the vibe that Ichi wanted to tell the four of the, that each beast is suited to one of the kings and that they should split up accordingly.
Of course they won't do this and will have to change enemies to suit their fighting styles and abilities.
It feels somewhat familiar with this kind of story structure.

I also want to stress the reason what I love about Toriko the most.
Unlike Dragonball e.g. where you are worthless unless you are a Saiyan or Naruto where you need some form of supernatural power-up and without you are utterly useless for the sake of the plot Toriko has many and very different styles and ways of growth.

Toriko learned food honour and food immersion.
Sani learned about Intuition from Guemon.
Zerbra learned a lot from a Dharma Hermit whatever that means.
All things very differebnt in their nature and it give the feeling that there is a vest and living world in Toriko of which we only get to see a small share at a time.

Erm no... You need Gourmet Cells in order to be strong, if you don't have them you're trash, then you need to power up your cells by eating ingredients... What you're describing are merely fighting styles. You are worthless if you don't have Gourmet Cells, you are worthless if you don't power them up by eating ingredients, it's pretty much the same thing.

 

[Zatono]

Re: Toriko 195 Chapter Discussion

Erm no... You need Gourmet Cells in order to be strong, if you don't have them you're trash, then you need to power up your cells by eating ingredients... What you're describing are merely fighting styles. You are worthless if you don't have Gourmet Cells, you are worthless if you don't power them up by eating ingredients, it's pretty much the same thing.

I don't think this is totally correct. Sure, Gourmet Cells help a ton, but there are still people like Acacia that should have been pretty strong before people had Gourmet Cells implanted into them.

And then there are people like Melk II, there's no proof she has gourmet cells, and she's still relatively strong IIRC. Not to mention the food honor people besides Chin, and Match.

The Gourmet Knights too, maybe, besides Ai, since I'm not sure how their cells could evolve without eating extravagantly.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Re: Toriko 195 Chapter Discussion

Actually most of the relevant people in this manga have Gourmet Cells. I believe only Komatsu and Melk and Match don't have them. The thing is that some fighters don't need Cells only because they don't go to Gourmet World and also because they use not a physical strength to fight, but swords or something else that enables them to be on par with more or less strong beasts.
And those from Gourmet Knights eat special ingridients that are aloud for them by their doctrine, but they can also power you up.

P.S. About Food Honour... It doesn't actually make you stronger. It just makes use of all your strength and cut off all your useless movements and get out the potential you don't use normally, so literaly it makes you always fight close to your 100% and also makes you more skilled and collected.

 

[Zehahaha]

Re: Toriko 195 Chapter Discussion

I don't think this is totally correct. Sure, Gourmet Cells help a ton, but there are still people like Acacia that should have been pretty strong before people had Gourmet Cells implanted into them.

And then there are people like Melk II, there's no proof she has gourmet cells, and she's still relatively strong IIRC. Not to mention the food honor people besides Chin, and Match.

The Gourmet Knights too, maybe, besides Ai, since I'm not sure how their cells could evolve without eating extravagantly.

In no way the Shokurin temple assistants don't have gourmet cells, let me put it clearly : Superhuman feats and power = Gourmet Cells in Toriko's world. This was already explained by Sani back at the Jewel meat arc. About Melk II, it's her knifes that do the job honestly, although she could've Gourmet cells, but she may not be interested into powering up

About the Gourmet Knights, just because of their teachings doesn't mean they don't eat food that would power them up, they're just not glutton like Toriko... Don't forget that Toriko just keep eating and drinking non stop

 

[llydnarz]

Re: Toriko 195 Chapter Discussion

Acacia and Frohze doesn't have Gourmet Cells before they discovered the Gourmet Jellyfish. But they're already strong during that time.

Ichiryuu, Jiro and Midora also might not have Gourmet Cells before they became Acacia's followers. It only proves that even without Gourmet Cells, there are exceptional people that can still be strong.