Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Bigivelfhq]

If that was true One Piece wouldn't be most of the time 1 because one piece most of the time is boring as fuck.

You forgot the for me. So in the end your opinion doesn't matter to the matter.

 

[dark123]

You forgot the for me. So in the end your opinion doesn't matter to the matter.

But what i said it is true . You could cut amount of pages by half and there wouldn't be any difference story wise. One piece most of the time is full of boring bullshit. Story is not growing together with its readers. Same boring jokes, a lot of wasted pages and so on... It has so many flaws.

 

[xAsum0x]

But what i said it is true . You could cut amount of pages by half and there wouldn't be any difference story wise. One piece most of the time is full of boring bullshit. Story is not growing together with its readers. Same boring jokes, a lot of wasted pages and so on... It has so many flaws.

Everything you just said is utter bullshit, but like Bigivel said we all have opinions . Thinking your opinion is a fact is ignorance

 

[De La Croissant]

The position of OP may be a matter of marketing (it's the most successful title of the WSJ, and even if the fans don't worry to vote in the series after so many years, don't put in front of the magazine would be silly), but a title that has a very loyal fanbase is certainly AssClass. Even in weak chapters the series never leaves the top. I think it will be one of the rare cases in which a work starts at the top and ends at the top.

 

[iceemperor]

Black Clover is really volatile in the rankings. It will sometimes be in the top 3 or 5 then drop to like 8 then jump back up to like 3. Overall id say its a series with potential if done properely but so far its very cliche and the artwork doesnt really help differentiate between characters. In the banquet, I found like 4 characters who looked the same but had different hairstyles to differentiate them. I think because its a fantasy story with magic that doesnt really stick too long in Jump, the editors might be trying to really push it. the last time I saw a series in this vein is probably magico but i could be wrong.

 

[Avok]

I think the art is like the strongest point of Black Clover. Last's week chapter (26) had some amazing pages, but that's just me.

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Black Clover is really volatile in the rankings. It will sometimes be in the top 3 or 5 then drop to like 8 then jump back up to like 3. Overall id say its a series with potential if done properely but so far its very cliche and the artwork doesnt really help differentiate between characters. In the banquet, I found like 4 characters who looked the same but had different hairstyles to differentiate them. I think because its a fantasy story with magic that doesnt really stick too long in Jump, the editors might be trying to really push it. the last time I saw a series in this vein is probably magico but i could be wrong.

Those people were related....

 

[101nemesis]

But what i said it is true . You could cut amount of pages by half and there wouldn't be any difference story wise. One piece most of the time is full of boring bullshit. Story is not growing together with its readers. Same boring jokes, a lot of wasted pages and so on... It has so many flaws.

What you said is NOT true. I'm sure the greater majority on this thread would not agree with you and with that itself, your "truth" would turn out to be just your opinion. Also, there is a reason why jokes are repeated. Just like many sitcoms often repeat jokes (example - Sheldon's knock knock knock, or "Thats my spot"). It may not be funny to you but the reason why jokes are repeated is because the fans love it.

 

[Lehran]

Ryuujin-den Gagamaru oneshot color page:

 

[piau9000]

Kagamigami is in the botton for ages = There's still hope for it!
Black Clover got a 9 after being in the top 5 for 3 weeks = It's doomed!

And then, everyone got a new "reason" to trash-talk BC again...

 

[Mammo]

i'm just gonna leave this here

look at the date & the signature (he's alive!!!!)

 

[SharkBait]

He should just pen the story and letter the animators do more anime. The 2011 anime put hxh in the map making it relevant snd in my time was much superior than the brief bits of manga I glanced at.

 

[piau9000]

Is it the Dragon Quest effect?

 

[Bigivelfhq]

He should just pen the story and letter the animators do more anime. The 2011 anime put hxh in the map making it relevant snd in my time was much superior than the brief bits of manga I glanced at.

A lot of people talk about this, and his obvious they don't understand how things work. Togashi is a Shueisha employee not Madhouse, and Hunter x Hunter is a Shueisha work, not Madhouse.
There is no reason for Shueisha to let HunterxHunter become anime only. Why would you give money to others for free? It makes no sense.

Even in Dragon Ball, where Toriyama was in retirement(for 19 years), with the new Super anime Shueisha made sure that somebody did a manga of it. And that the manga was ahead from the anime.

 

[SharkBait]

A lot of people talk about this, and his obvious they don't understand how things work. Togashi is a Shueisha employee not Madhouse, and Hunter x Hunter is a Shueisha work, not Madhouse.
There is no reason for Shueisha to let HunterxHunter become anime only. Why would you give money to others for free? It makes no sense.

Even in Dragon Ball, where Toriyama was in retirement(for 19 years), with the new Super anime Shueisha made sure that somebody did a manga of it. And that the manga was ahead from the anime.

Theres nothing that prevents Madhouse from employing Togashi or enterting into an agreement with the manga publisher. Hows it any different than an anime only arc written under supervision of the original author. That has been done in animated media before, you know.

 

[Mammo]

so basically you want a filler arc?

 

[SharkBait]

Is an arc still filler if the original author writes the arc?

 

[Mammo]

yes, it's filler

everything that's not from the original material(the manga) is filler

unless the author state otherwise

 

[SharkBait]

yes, it's filler

everything that's not from the original material(the manga) is filler

unless the author state otherwise

So at this point in time, we would have to conclude that it is not filler since Togashi has not said that it is filler.

 

[Bigivelfhq]

Theres nothing that prevents Madhouse from employing Togashi or enterting into an agreement with the manga publisher. Hows it any different than an anime only arc written under supervision of the original author. That has been done in animated media before, you know.

Yep, because you can just go employing other companies workers. Obviously you can't do that!

An agreement would only be made if there were some gain to the manga publisher, and little loss. Explain me how advancing the story in the anime and not in the manga(or only way later in the manga), would be advantageous to the manga publisher.

A filler arc is an arc that will never be written in the manga and after it the story will return to the source material content(if not, the anime will just end with an original ending).
Also you're forgetting that while the anime is doing a filler, the author is continuing the source material(Money for the anime company, Money for the manga company). In this case you're saying for Togashi working for the anime and not for the manga(Money for the anime company, No Money for the manga company). So there is a big difference between that and a filler.