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Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

Discussion in 'Manga News' started by jagman1x3, Jan 11, 2017.

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  1. DeepClean

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    Will there be a sequel to Tokyo Ghoul re?
     
  2. Ice King

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    MHA sales will grow.
     
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    It will take a miracle for it to meet or exceed this charts performance for the 2018 chart. No 2016 heroaca volume is up there for example, compared to say haikyuu which volumes have very long legs and approach the 900K - 1000K level.
     
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    I think Oricon don't want us to see that Black Clover is in TOP 11, i'm sure thats because of it.

    I think MHA season 3 will give another boost, one of the best moments of the manga will be there.
     
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    Haikyu is older than MHA.

    And MHA is a lot publicized by Jump lately.
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    It seems to me too early to honestly see him near the Top 10.

    As already said, the anime started too little. To put it all MHA has been around for three years, yet the real boost has only recently had it with the sixth season ...
     
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    I dont understand your point? MHA outsold older manga.
     
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    Maybe top 15 because it's impossible for BC right now to beat conan, TF FT Gintama and Chihayafuru
     
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    oh man, I really wanted the shitstrom that comes with the top 30 list

    well, nothing we can do about it

    it's based on an already finished novel, we had to catch up eventually
     
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    I know

    "sarcasm"
     
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    What I mean is that since Haykiuu is older, is more know and more advertised.
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    For now...
     
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    I dont usualy post but here is my sales calculation I have done through the year
    Its based on oricon and shosekiranking. Seeing the oficial top 10, my calculations are good enough too see where each series is placed.
    1 ONE PIECE 11,309,158
    2 Shingeki no Kyojin 6,513,646
    3 Kingdom 6,085,803
    4 My Hero Academia 5,894,656
    5 Tokyo Ghoul:re 5,255,506
    6 Haikyuu!! 4,954,440
    7 Nanatsu no Taizai 3,414,643
    8 One Punch-Man 3,116,968
    9 Shokugeki no Souma 2,710,150
    10 Magi 2,627,110
    11 Detective Conan 2,321,126
    12 Promised Neverland 2,093,790
    13 3-gatsu no Lion 1,920,489
    14 Black Clover 1,892,501
    15 Ao no Exorcist 1,809,121
    16 FAIRY TAIL 1,808,863
    17 Diamond no Ace Act II 1,673,333
    18 Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii 1,460,842
    19 Dragon Ball Super 1,439,895
    20 Major 2nd 1,425,722
    21 Black Butler 1,403,592
    22 HUNTER x HUNTER 1,365,417
    23 Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card-hen 1,364,991
    24 Gintama 1,339,124
    25 Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken 1,304,520
    26 P to JK 1,228,431
    27 Dungeon Meshi 1,225,788
    28 Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san 1,221,743
    29 DAYS 1,216,742
    30 BORUTO 1,206,518
    31 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1,198,357
    32 Kakegurui 1,181,393
    33 Kimi ni Todoke 1,167,796
    34 Komi-san wa, Community-shou desu 1,135,494
    35 Yowamushi Pedal 1,121,123
    36 JoJo Part 8: JoJolion 1,118,165
    37 Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai 1,091,710
    38 Shuumatsu no Harem 1,058,884
    39 Tokyo Tarareba-jou 1,040,145
    40 Mahoutsukai no Yome 1,016,131
    41 Nigeru wa Haji daga Yaku ni Tatsu 1,010,590
    42 Owari no Seraph 1,010,031
    43 Saiki Kusuo no PSI Nan 992,909
    44 Youjo Senki 970,146
    45 Ajin 959,992
    46 Chihayafuru 937,307
    47 Terra Formars 935,581
    48 World Trigger 929,495
    49 Omoi, Omoware, Furi, Furare 914,311
    50 Prison School 881,484
    Basicly these are the minimum sales that each series did.Error is maybe around 50K or less for most of them.
     
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    thanks for your hard work!!

    interesting list

    KnY is there but not Yuuna? Terra Formars which is on hiatus all year is there but not Golden Kamuy? hmmm....
     
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    Thanks for the major effort post! Bummed to not see Yuuna on here and I'm assuming it must be close to the cut-off, but was pleasantly surprised to see Komi-san make the list.
     
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    It does feel weird to see no Golden Kamuy absent. To be fair, Golden Kamuy was 26th last year and it got a huge boost from winning that award, maybe the momentum slowed down in backlog sales for it. Yuuna is probably just under Prison school, which doesn't seem impossible. Terra Formars was actually a top 10 seller two times I think and a top 15 seller in the last few years, so it's not surprising it's still going strong even after a long hiatus.
     
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    Pretty amazing that Neverland almost got in the top 10 without an anime.
     
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    Great work here.

    How did you sort out the backlog sales for each series? Your list implies that Neverland completely sold out its last print of 2.1 million. Even though its still selling and in stock.
     
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    Thanks for this great list, you put so much effort into it, it is very much appreciated! I have been following series sales for a lot of things and this seems pretty on point.

    It's insane to see how close Neverland actually is to the top 10, it might not even need an anime to reach it. I underestimated it's ridiculous growth. But having an anime will definitely be essential. I feel like it might be slightly inflated since we know the series had 2.1 million copies in print not too long ago and print numbers definitely aren't exactly how much something sells. Regardless, it still easily seems to be in the top 15 and worst case scenario the top 20. The manga is quite literally a smash hit, Shueisha, you'd better not mess up the anime adaptation because this can seriously become a phenomenon since it's already an insane success without an anime and so early on.

    That's about what I would've expected for Black Clover, but I would've said it was a top 20-30 series because of previous years, but there seems to be a dramatic decrease in print sales overall due to digital so the top 30 standards are lower than last year by a lot.

    I'm really happy to see how much Kimetsu no Yaiba has grown, it was an underdog in every sense of the word in its early stages and now it's on its way to becoming a memorable battle shounen from the magazine that is next in line to get a lot of promotion alongside with Neverland as future bright figures of Jump.

    And unrelated series from Jump I'm glad for: Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii(fantastic romantic comedy for otakus), P to JK(amazing shoijo series, highly recommended), Dungeon Meshi(anime when, the series is so good, please get a good adaptation), Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai(it's just an amazing romcom, enough said, try it out), Komi-san wa, Community-shou desu.
     
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    Just my speculation:

    Kimetsu makes the list while Yuuna did not due to Yuuna's stagnation.They both have 2 volumes count for the 2016 sale list (Febuary to November), and if you remember Kimetsu sold was around 30k~40k, while the first two Yuuna sold 70k~100k.

    Then come 2017, Kimetsu has 1 more volume than Yuuna even though they serialized at the same time :-_-, and the Kimetsu sale continues to grow slowly (example: say if Yuuna vol 1 and 2 stuck at 100k and wont grow any further, the sale won't coutn for 2017 sale). Meanwhile, Kimetsu vol 1 and 2 go from 30k to say 100k in 2017, that would be 140k increase right there

    Lastly, Kimetsu 9th volume has 2.1 million in print, while YUuna only have 1.5 mil
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    Neverland is the new Assassination Classroom.
     
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    That would've been really cool if Kimetsu got into the top 30. Gintama deserves a lot more IMO, why didn't the successful live action give it a boost?

    TPN is fucking killing it.
     
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    It's gonna be huge when the anime drops.
     
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