Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Doughboy]

Let's hope MHA doesn't go the Naruto movie route with inconsistent movie timeline placing. I mean does anyone even know when Bonds took place? And Blood Prison had flaws with Bee and Naruto knowing each other but Naruto hadn't even met him yet cause it took place before his training. They never made sense.

@cody it's more like you have NNT airing in Jan, Attack on Titan in July so that'll be airing 2 months after MHA airs and FT is unconfirmed some time next year. MHA is a big draw but I don't think Soul Catcher and BC (which will end in the summer next year) will be enough new material. I'd like to think Jump wants it's new titles to be explosive in popularity so It's gonna be competitive for those ratings.

 

[cody]

Let's hope MHA doesn't go the Naruto movie route with inconsistent movie timeline placing. I mean does anyone even know when Bonds took place? And Blood Prison had flaws with Bee and Naruto knowing each other but hadn't even met him yet cause it was before his training, they never made sense.

@cody it's more like you have NNT airing in Jan, Attack on Titan in July so that'll be airing 2 months after MHA airs and FT is unconfirmed some time next year. MHA is a big draw but I don't think Soul Catcher and BC (which will end in the summer next year) will be enough new material. I'd like to think Jump wants it's new titles to be explosive in popularity so It's gonna be competitive for those ratings.

Well WSJ and Jump SQ are preparing some new hot series for the future. Neverland and Kimetsu are going to get animated in 2019 most likely. Kodansha will also probably announce an anime for Fire Force soon for 2018.

 

[Doughboy]

Yeah true, if all else fails they can send some OVAs out for like World's End or even HxH? World's End could just be the beginning chapters, HxH could send out the Ging/Pariston collaboration. Yuragi is coming too, forgot forgot. Hope it does well but its appeal is to a different crowd so the point still reminds. I thought 2017 was a good year for anime, 2018 will be even better.

 

[OfficialHxH]

Now if only World Trigger comes off Hiatus

 

[cody]

Now if only World Trigger comes off Hiatus

Aren't there any sings of life? Is there anything for World Trigger at Jump Festa, I doubt it would bring in any positive news about a comeback, but it would at least show that the series isn't completely dead yet.

 

[James Rye]

Now if only World Trigger comes off Hiatus

Praying to Jesus everyday so far hasn't worked well yet in that regard. Gonna try sacrificing chicken for Satan next.
Seriously though, there should be SOME update somewhere about the health status of Ashihara. Like is he still in hospital, is he at home and relaxing to heal up or is he already sort of at work so that there are like a dozen or two chapters there so that he can take a week off per month for the next year but that the series won't be interrupted or is he currently trying to find a drawer for his manga 'cause the doctors told him to forget ever holding a pencil in his hands ever again?

 

[cody]

Hoshin Engi cover for a magazine.

 

[SharkBait]

Why do they all look like their from ps1 era jrpgs like star ocean 1/2???

Top right boy looks cute. Guess Ill watch.

 

[cody]

Why do they all look like their from ps1 era jrpgs like star ocean 1/2???

Top right boy looks cute. Guess Ill watch.

Well, it is a series from 1996.

 

[razerxs]

Oricon Sales: (Nov 27 - Dec 3)
48051 2167285 One Piece
20887 *499904 MHA
19850 *153086 Dragon Ball Yamcha
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13269 *280686 Dragon Ball Super
11465 *265742 The Promised Neverland
10960 *319205 Shokugeki no Soma
10588 *248514 Boruto

Annual Sales:
2,039,765 The Promised Neverland
1,956,974 Black Clover
1,514,111 Hunter X Hunter
1,475,539 Gintama
1,302,000 Dragon Ball Super
1,195,541 Boruto
1,193,204 Kimetsu no Yaiba
1,182,641 Saiki Kusuo
*980,345 World's End Harem

Looks like @mrcho13 was pretty spot on.

 

[cody]

Great numbers for Kimetsu and Neverland, good to see some confirmed numbers. Did a larger top get released or is this only for WSJ stuff? How about the other Shueisha magazines?

 

[razerxs]

Volumes under the top 50:

Spoiler: The big list

460,330 Boruto 　２ 1612
454,635 Shokugeki no Soma ２２ 1612
447,972 MHA １６ 1711
437,089 Shokugeki no Soma ２３ 1703
408,901 Shokugeki no Soma ２４ 1705
407,364 Promised Neverland 　１ 1612
402,652 DBS 　２ 1612
388,366 Shokugeki no Soma ２５ 1707
387,202 Promised Neverland 　２ 1702
375,867 Boruto 　３ 1705
366,475 World Trigger １７ 1612
365,573 MHA １１ 1611
362,653 Shokugeki no Soma ２６ 1709
360,620 DBS 　３ 1706
358,203 Promised Neverland 　３ 1704
349,989 World Trigger １８ 1703
339,534 Promised Neverland 　４ 1707
324,285 Gintama ６７ 1612
310,076 Promised Neverland 　５ 1709
300,421 World's End Harem 　２ 1612
298,491 Gintama ６８ 1704
292,844 DBS 　１ 1604
290,761 Shokugeki no Soma ２７ 1711
277,247 Gintama ６９ 1707
270,714 MHA １０ 1609
266,786 World's End Harem 　３ 1706
262,878 Toriko ４３ 1612
260,426 Black Clover 　９ 1612
255,046 Black Clover １０ 1703
246,736 Black Clover １１ 1705
245,884 DBS 　４ 1711
245,073 Toriko ４２ 1612
241,997 MHA 　９ 1606
237,386 Promised Neverland 　６ 1711
237,314 MHA 　８ 1604
233,349 MHA 　７ 1602
233,219 Black Clover １２ 1708
229,239 MHA 　６ 1511
228,241 Gintama ７０ 1710
225,114 MHA 　５ 1508
222,639 MHA 　１ 1411
222,467 Boruto 　４ 1711
218,056 MHA 　４ 1506
215,985 World's End Harem 　１ 1609
212,702 MHA 　２ 1501
210,530 Black Clover １３ 1710
210,484 MHA 　３ 1504
197,153 World's End Harem 　４ 1710
169,871 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　４ 1612
168,522 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　６ 1705
168,175 Saiki ２０ 1612
167,743 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　５ 1703
167,518 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　４ 1612
157,486 Haikyu!! ２３ 1610
156,942 Saiki ２１ 1704
156,858 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　５ 1704
152,852 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　７ 1708
151,615 One Piece ８２ 1607
146,021 Saiki ２２ 1707
141,574 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　８ 1710
137,842 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　６ 1707
136,877 Boruto 　１ 1608
135,419 Robot X LASERBEAM 　１ 1707
134,780 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　１ 1606
130,441 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　２ 1608
129,774 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　３ 1610
128,389 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　７ 1709
126,209 Shokugeki no Soma ２１ 1611
125,250 Boys Over Flowers Season 2 　５ 1612
123,299 Saiki ２３ 1710
109,565 BLEACH ７４ 1611

Spoiler: Sorted by Series

260,426 Black Clover 　９
255,046 Black Clover １０
246,736 Black Clover １１
233,219 Black Clover １２
210,530 Black Clover １３
460,330 Boruto 　２
375,867 Boruto 　３
222,467 Boruto 　４
136,877 Boruto 　１
109,565 BLEACH ７４
125,250 Boys Over Flowers Season 2 　５
402,652 DBS 　２
360,620 DBS 　３
292,844 DBS 　１
245,884 DBS 　４
324,285 Gintama ６７
298,491 Gintama ６８
277,247 Gintama ６９
228,241 Gintama ７０
157,486 Haikyu!! ２３
168,522 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　６
167,743 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　５
167,518 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　４
152,852 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　７
141,574 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　８
134,780 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　１
130,441 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　２
129,774 Kimetsu no Yaiba 　３
447,972 MHA １６
365,573 MHA １１
270,714 MHA １０
241,997 MHA 　９
237,314 MHA 　８
233,349 MHA 　７
229,239 MHA 　６
225,114 MHA 　５
222,639 MHA 　１
218,056 MHA 　４
212,702 MHA 　２
210,484 MHA 　３
151,615 One Piece ８２
407,364 Promised Neverland 　１
387,202 Promised Neverland 　２
358,203 Promised Neverland 　３
339,534 Promised Neverland 　４
310,076 Promised Neverland 　５
237,386 Promised Neverland 　６
135,419 Robot X LASERBEAM 　１
168,175 Saiki ２０
156,942 Saiki ２１
146,021 Saiki ２２
123,299 Saiki ２３
454,635 Shokugeki no Soma ２２
437,089 Shokugeki no Soma ２３
408,901 Shokugeki no Soma ２４
388,366 Shokugeki no Soma ２５
362,653 Shokugeki no Soma ２６
290,761 Shokugeki no Soma ２７
126,209 Shokugeki no Soma ２１
262,878 Toriko ４３
245,073 Toriko ４２
366,475 World Trigger １７
349,989 World Trigger １８
300,421 World's End Harem 　２
266,786 World's End Harem 　３
215,985 World's End Harem 　１
197,153 World's End Harem 　４
169,871 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　４
156,858 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　５
137,842 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　６
128,389 Yuuna's Haunted Hot Springs 　７

 

[Caiops]

So Oricon really posted.

Why?

 

[SharkBait]

All the relevant major jump series are doing well. Neverland at peak food wars level is surprising. I guess Boruto v1 was split with last year?

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 6, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 6, 2017 ---

And BLack Clover early volumes must have missed the end of year cutoff. Darn it was super close. If only the anime started in summer.

 

[Caiops]

So, the first volume of Black Clover sold 210k this year?

How is it doing if you compare with World Trigger?

 

[ElJin]

Great numbers for Black Clover. If we count Digital Sales, we can expect probably at least 2,5 million this year.

 

[SharkBait]

How is it doing if you compare with World Trigger?

Unless, Im blind, it doesnt appear that World Trigger ever appeared on the end of the year by volume charts until this year.

2016
2015

Unless there were different sources for numbers of those years, we cant compare maybe?

 

[Caiops]

Yeah, World Trigger sold better both in the first and second year
18 2,234,851 World Trigger - 2016

22 2,735,269 World Trigger - 2015

But, not bad, i expected less.

 

[WesKR]

Is there a total for World Trigger? It sold about 5 million with those 2015/16 numbers and this year it was around 900k. Not sure what the 2013/14 numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if there was around 7.5-8 million in circulation.

 

[SharkBait]

Is there a total for World Trigger? It sold about 5 million with those 2015/16 numbers and this year it was around 900k. Not sure what the 2013/14 numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if there was around 7.5-8 million in circulation.

THere was v 1 - 11 numbers a while back https://mangahelpers.com/forum/posts/4385638/