Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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Start of arcs always seem great but it's the middle towards the end is where it has to be great. I rather have a terrible beginning for an amazing ending. It feels like hella people got captured by the awe of Stain's philosophies and how it pivoted rogue villains like Himiko and Dabi to join under Shigaraki. Stain arc to me was average because Iida is an average character with a good family backstory in regards to his older brother (Todoroki's is way better and detailed) and even though Stain himself was dope, the arc to me was decent. The comparison of Enel to Skypeia that people brought up, how most loved Enel but the arc he was in was dry in of itself is the same how I feel about the Stain arc. With the dynamic of the shift from School Trip to Hideout Raid you honestly can't make a better transition between arcs, no momentum is lost at all. When you go from all that actions and epic shit to a > mildly action filled exam with new characters that don't get the most screentime/development yet > slice of life with the dorms, creating techniques, introduction of the Big 3 > internship/field training it's normal to see the drop in quality cause not much is happening since the flow of the story is changed. For what it's worth, what's currently going is interesting. I think the quality drop is normal due to what's progressed in the story so far
The Provisional Exams arc was an obligatory one for the story. Understandably it was going to be one of lower stakes than the previous one. But I didn't expect this arc to get this kinda flak just for it.
 

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Huh. That's interesting to know. As much as people here like to rag on BC, myself included, at least people can give their reasoning on why they do and stop when appropriate. Also anyone mind explaining what "nichigo" is?
It's always easy to dislike something. To think about why one dislike something needs a lil bit work. That's why most people bash something, without to give that much reasoning behind it. Though, not just with Black Clover in mind. Happens to all things.
Personally, my problem with BC is Asta and its beginning. Asta is boring and not really interesting. And he is this type of MC in shounen who is a huge idiot, beyond being funny anymore.
The beginning itself is just too much Naruto, with a bit of Fairy Tail. It needed some time to gain its own identity.
Other problems I have would be that the last arcs always ended on some battle. The Witch Forest arc really didn't needed this, yet we've got a confusing battle with two opposing armies(which is even more confusing. I've thought both armies worked together, but they happened to attack the Witch Forest at the same time?). Also, I am also bothered that most women in the manga need to have a crush. It's annoying. Ironically I like Noelle a lot, because, besides her crush, she still have enough personality.
The manga itself isnt bad. It's solid. Its greatest strength is its humor. The slice of life chapters are the best, and the times between arcs are sometimes more enjoyable than the arcs before and after.


Also regarding the Luffy comparison. I never quite understood why he is considered an ideal hero in Japan. It's a similar problem I had with Goku's characterization especially in Z and beyond.
Jotaro is also a popular maincharacter in manga. I guess, it's because he is a delinquent(anti-hero) and strong(power-fantasy). Similiar things like Goku and Luffy.
Therefore, it's not that different how in the western world people like their maincharacters.

EDIT: Wait, didnt Bakugou won the first place in the last MHA-poll?
The good hero loses to the anti-hero in popularity. That's the Batman Phenomenon(at least, that's how I'd call it, if DC wouldnt sue me for this).
 
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Only Minoru Mineta has what it takes to become a hero according to my signature :derp.
 

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Mineta honestly triggers me, everything about his character is annoying. His face is stupid, he's like 3 feet tall, his costume looks like a toilet bowl, his perversion running gag was never funny. There is literally nothing good about him and I wish Hori gave more panel time to tail guy than the Grape Rapist.
 

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Mineta honestly triggers me, everything about his character is annoying. His face is stupid, he's like 3 feet tall, his costume looks like a toilet bowl, his perversion running gag was never funny. There is literally nothing good about him and I wish Hori gave more panel time to tail guy than the Grape Rapist.
Ohmygawd, Mineta is the fucking worst!
He's just so disgusting & unlikeable! And last but not least, he's really not funny!
I know guys who think he's amusing, but urgh... I really cannot stand him, and his quirk sucks. Every panel with him, is wasted!
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... I have surprisingly strong feelings about this, I guess....
 

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Ohmygawd, Mineta is the fucking worst!
He's just so disgusting & unlikeable! And last but not least, he's really not funny!
I know guys who think he's amusing, but urgh... I really cannot stand him, and his quirk sucks. Every panel with him, is wasted!
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... I have surprisingly strong feelings about this, I guess....
I thought he was a little funny in the Sports Festival. And I think it's sorta funny how Horikoshi is aware that everyone hates Mineta and kinda makes 4th wall breaking jokes about it in the character polls
 

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Yeah that comment was too much, not necessary. I thought he was okay comedy relief earlier on in the series, however as we have progressed I've enjoyed him less and less. I'm glad Kirishima is getting more time in this current arc, since he's my personal favorite character.
 

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Any predictions on what this upcoming arc of Neverland could cover?
 

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I hate Mineta and Todoroki its like choosing between a Emo with daddy issues and a midget pervert
anyways its getting close to axing time, which mangaka do you want back?
 

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I hate Mineta and Todoroki its like choosing between a Emo with daddy issues and a midget pervert
anyways its getting close to axing time, which mangaka do you want back?
Yusuke Utsumi
Yuusaku Shibata, for Zippo(hopefully)
 

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I asked the same thing 2 days ago you can go a couple of pages back for answers

here's a variation of that question

who you don't want back? (I'm a hate-filled creature)

the dudes that made:
U19
Judos
Takamagahara

and sing this one with me
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^ the one that made Kurogane/Mononofu and the one that made Mx0/that mirror manga.

On a side note my Posuka's artbook arrived and it is gorgeous. The only non-English part would be the interior of some structure (like Posuka would draw a house and put JPN characters in it), legit would buy again for the English version.
 

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Mx0/that mirror manga.
Kano have Kiss x Death, a successful ongoing manga o Jump Plus, I doubt he even wants to return to Jump, how many times he have been cancelled already?
 

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anyways its getting close to axing time, which mangaka do you want back?
Don't make jokes with serious things, man, it is not axing time, it is rest time from all the crap that came in the last round. We need some rest!
 

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Really hope to see the Poro author come back in a year or 2. I think his art style cool and cute. Poro may not have been very funny, despite being a comedy, but I still enjoyed what I read from it. Not enough for me to care about it getting axed, but I look forward to seeing the creator improve
 

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Kano have Kiss x Death, a successful ongoing manga o Jump Plus, I doubt he even wants to return to Jump, how many times he have been cancelled already?
good for him. Then just Mononofu/Kurogane guy then.
 

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Within the last five years

Come back
Takayama (when I Shoujo+ ends)
Nonoue
Shiibashi
Utsumi
Yokota
Izekawa
Moue
Furuya
Kimura
Ogino


Nope
Gondaira
Ishiyama
Yagi
Kondou
 
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