Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Reigen]

Zenitsu

 

[OfficialHxH]

 

[Mammo]

remember when Zenitsu debuted in KnY and people didn't like him and thought he was an annoying crybaby? how times have changed

I wouldn't really put the royal roads as a manga trend as those are universal. Sure they may be dying down now but you do get huge successes like Heroaca and smaller successes like Black Clover which are royal road series to a T.

you're right

to be more specific, i was talking about all the manga that started after DBZ and followed its formula
dumb mc, likes to eat, wants to be the very best, beats the arc bad guy and the bad guy joins his crew, power levels etc...

 

[Haru Hana]

The rest of the TPN poll:

How the hell Zenitsu is in 29th place with 44 votes? XD I remember sister Krone also got some votes in KnY's poll last time too lol.

 

[OfficialHxH]

 

[shoyoboyo]

>zenitsu got more votes than Posuka, the artist of Neverland

what timeline

 

[Tamil]

How the hell Zenitsu is in 29th place with 44 votes? XD I remember sister Krone also got some votes in KnY's poll last time too lol.

Prob b/c of these memes. I cant find the original tweet

 

[Heiji]

About Kimi wo Shinrayku Seyo! : The second volume, which will contain four unpublished chapters, is scheduled for November 2 and the third and final volume for December 4.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Trends for me:

70s: baseball (Samurai Giants, Astro Kyuudan, Play Ball), and hard-boiled characters (Otoko Ippiki, Koya no Shonen Isamu, Doberman Deka, Circuit no Okami, Cobra, even Kochikame and Dokonjo Gaeru would fall n this trend. Exception would be Ring ni Kakero).
80s: MANga (Kinnikuman, Hokuto no Ken, JoJo, Sakigake, City Hunter, you could add Dragon Ball Z, and in soooooome way Captain Tsubasa. Exception would be Saint Seiya)
90s: delinquents (Slam Dunk, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rokudenashi Blues, you could add early Yu-Gi-Oh and Kenshin in some way)
End 90-beginning 00s: rebel MCs (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach)
00s: good-short boys, usually losers (HxH, Eyeshield21, Hitman Reborn, D-Grayman, this could extend to Kuroko no Basket, Assasination Classroom, Haikyuu, and Hero Academia. Exceptions would be Toriko (well, Komatsu is still in this trend) and Death Note)
Current 10s: trend looks is oriented to demon stuff (Promised Neverland, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu, Black Clover in a way, even Yuuna-san now, maybe also Assasination Classroom in a way. Big exception is Dr.Stone).

 

[Franz]

I think that the way of conceiving the protagonist has been trivially changed.

In the 80s the protagoista was all about muscles and good feelings, in the 90s the golden-hearted thug.

From the 2000s onwards the model of the loser protagonist who takes over the world.

 

[WyldViolet]

Trends for me:

70s: baseball (Samurai Giants, Astro Kyuudan, Play Ball), and hard-boiled characters (Otoko Ippiki, Koya no Shonen Isamu, Doberman Deka, Circuit no Okami, Cobra, even Kochikame and Dokonjo Gaeru would fall n this trend. Exception would be Ring ni Kakero).
80s: MANga (Kinnikuman, Hokuto no Ken, JoJo, Sakigake, City Hunter, you could add Dragon Ball Z, and in soooooome way Captain Tsubasa. Exception would be Saint Seiya)
90s: delinquents (Slam Dunk, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rokudenashi Blues, you could add early Yu-Gi-Oh and Kenshin in some way)
End 90-beginning 00s: rebel MCs (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach)
00s: good-short boys (HxH, Eyeshield21, Hitman Reborn, D-Grayman, this could extend to Kuroko no Basket, Assasination Classroom, Haikyuu, and Hero Academia. Exceptions would be Toriko (well, Komatsu is still in this trend) and Death Note)
Current 10s: trend looks is oriented to demon stuff (Promised Neverland, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu, Black Clover in a way, even Yuuna-san now, maybe also Assasination Classroom in a way. Big exception is Dr.Stone).

Dragon Ball Z is not a manga.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Dragon Ball Z is not a manga.

But is second clear part of Dragon Ball manga, even to the point outside Japan they sell is at a manga. And it clearly got the MANga 80 vibes that Dragon Ball part 1 maybe didn't have. I've put that in the chart to be more accurate.

 

[void data]

Jaiminis just released the pilot chapter before jujutsu kaisen.
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/tokyo-metropolitan-magic-technical-school/en/0/1/page/1

Was it a series or oneshot on giga? I don't remember.

 

[Heiji]

Jaiminis just released the pilot chapter before jujutsu kaisen.
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/tokyo-metropolitan-magic-technical-school/en/0/1/page/1

Was it a series or oneshot on giga? I don't remember.

Serie. Only volume will be out 04/12.

 

[iceemperor]

Trends for me:

70s: baseball (Samurai Giants, Astro Kyuudan, Play Ball), and hard-boiled characters (Otoko Ippiki, Koya no Shonen Isamu, Doberman Deka, Circuit no Okami, Cobra, even Kochikame and Dokonjo Gaeru would fall n this trend. Exception would be Ring ni Kakero).
80s: MANga (Kinnikuman, Hokuto no Ken, JoJo, Sakigake, City Hunter, you could add Dragon Ball Z, and in soooooome way Captain Tsubasa. Exception would be Saint Seiya)
90s: delinquents (Slam Dunk, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rokudenashi Blues, you could add early Yu-Gi-Oh and Kenshin in some way)
End 90-beginning 00s: rebel MCs (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach)
00s: good-short boys, usually losers (HxH, Eyeshield21, Hitman Reborn, D-Grayman, this could extend to Kuroko no Basket, Assasination Classroom, Haikyuu, and Hero Academia. Exceptions would be Toriko (well, Komatsu is still in this trend) and Death Note)
Current 10s: trend looks is oriented to demon stuff (Promised Neverland, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu, Black Clover in a way, even Yuuna-san now, maybe also Assasination Classroom in a way. Big exception is Dr.Stone).

Based on this, Haikyuu and Heroaca would be outliers as they are from the previous decade but you can chalk it up to them being royal roads. I don't know if you can really say this entire decade trends towards demon stuff as they really began taking off from around Kimetsu. Sure they were taking off from Blue Exorcist but that's SQ. Jump I feel really took off in this demon trend from Kimetsu and Neverland. Jujutsu seems like its a mix of exorcist and demon manga, almost like a better Black Torch.

 

[Franz]

There are no trends.
Each period takes certain characteristics simply.


Slam Dunk and Haykyuu are both spokons for esmepio, but they have different types of characters.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

BTW what happened with Black Torch? Was it axed?

 

[ChocoBar9]

There are no trends.
Each period takes certain characteristics simply.


Slam Dunk and Haykyuu are both spokons for esmepio, but they have different types of characters.

Of course there's trends. You think Jump starting dabbing in romantic comedies in the early to mid 80s not because Sunday was kicking their ass with Touch and Urusei Yatsura? Then winded up being a trend setter themselves with Fist of the North Star towards the end of the decade only to start following trends again with their own delinquent manga Rokudenashi Blues when it was the hottest thing. Jump just don't make these trends define their magazine like the competition usually do.

 

[Franz]

In the sense that it is wrong to bring the manga according to the genre back into an era.

 

[Ninjaz]

BTW what happened with Black Torch? Was it axed?

It did end. The French publisher said it was "meant to be a short series" or something along those lines I think. (Here)
But that does seem kinda dodgy considering it first got a transfer from SQ to Jump+ and then ended just a short while afterwards. But eh, who's to say.