Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Ctkk]

How deep do these numbers go? If possible could you tell me where the highest BC and JoJo volume ranked? TIA

It's the top 50. The rest of the list goes:

26 - 5toubun 7- 419,776
27- World Trigger 19 - 399,912
28 - Golden Kamui 16 - 391,461
29 - Dungeon Meshi 7 - 389,383
30 - 7DS 36 - 380,675
31 - 5toubun 9 - 380,589
32 - Rurouni Kenshin: The Hokkaido Arc 2 - 377,910
33 - TPN 11 - 358,127
34 - 7DS 34 - 350,664
35 - Saint Oniisan 16 - 347,619
36 - Black Lagoon 11 - 340,715
37 - Ao no Exorcist 23 - 330,424
38 - Detective Conan: Zero's Tea Time 3 - 329,106
39 - D. Gray-man 26 - 319,470
40 - Dragon Ball Super 8 - 314,269
41 - Golden Kamui 17 - 312,486
42 - Kaguya 12 - 302,333
43 - Black Clover 19 - 301,231
44 - Space Brothers 35 - 296,394
45 - Kaguya 13 - 294,700
46 - Shokugeki no Soma 32 - 293,095
47 - 5toubun 6 - 292,715
48 - 5toubun 1 - 290,078
49 - 5toubun 5 - 287,253
50 - Ace of Diamond: Act II - 286,665

 

[Rain Spectre]

Like...I'm personally not someone to drop something on the moral objections against the creator (mostly), but...it's simply someone's moral decision? How hard is it to understand that.

Also, using Mel Gibson and Kevin Spacey as examples isn't really applicable because, you know, they're actors. In spite of the culture surrounding them they only in specific cases have a creative influence on a work.

32 - Rurouni Kenshin: The Hokkaido Arc 2 - 377,910

THIS IS NOT MAKING THIS DISCUSSION BETTER

 

[Jovan]

It's the top 50. The rest of the list goes:

26 - 5toubun 7- 419,776
27- World Trigger 19 - 399,912
28 - Golden Kamui 16 - 391,461
29 - Dungeon Meshi 7 - 389,383
30 - 7DS 36 - 380,675
31 - 5toubun 9 - 380,589
32 - Rurouni Kenshin: The Hokkaido Arc 2 - 377,910
33 - TPN 11 - 358,127
34 - 7DS 34 - 350,664
35 - Saint Oniisan 16 - 347,619
36 - Black Lagoon 11 - 340,715
37 - Ao no Exorcist 23 - 330,424
38 - Detective Conan: Zero's Tea Time 3 - 329,106
39 - D. Gray-man 26 - 319,470
40 - Dragon Ball Super 8 - 314,269
41 - Golden Kamui 17 - 312,486
42 - Kaguya 12 - 302,333
43 - Black Clover 19 - 301,231
44 - Space Brothers 35 - 296,394
45 - Kaguya 13 - 294,700
46 - Shokugeki no Soma 32 - 293,095
47 - 5toubun 6 - 292,715
48 - 5toubun 1 - 290,078
49 - 5toubun 5 - 287,253
50 - Ace of Diamond: Act II - 286,665

Oh wow, World Trigger.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

virtue signalling
noun

That’s a noun and a verb. Come on, son.

Or people can simply enjoy a work of fiction while still acknowledging that the creator has done terrible things.

I think this is fair. Like I draw the line harder because of my own personal experience but if that’s someone’s response I’m not gonna accuse them of being wrong. It’s all personal feelings in the end, innit.

Also, using Mel Gibson and Kevin Spacey as examples isn't really applicable because, you know, they're actors.

Mel Gibson is a director too, to be fair, though I’d argue an actor is a creative, and still applicable.

And god the sales chart isin on the action!!! Curses

 

[Xzone]

Oh wow, World Trigger.

I remember when the first volume didn't enter in oricon top 50.
The growth is unbeliable.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Neverland isn't going to last a lot, so since Samurai 8 goes growing the Naruto way (still, a thing to see), early 2020s fight could be My Hero Academia vs Samurai 8.

And Samurai 8 would be getting a very difficult fight. My Hero Academia is being pretty solid right now. That sales number without anime in almost one year is a proof that Hero Academia has consolidated as the second Jump franchise manga after One Piece.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Neverland isn't going to last a lot, so since Samurai 8 goes growing the Naruto way (still, a thing to see), early 2020s fight could be My Hero Academia vs Samurai 8.

And Samurai 8 would be getting a very difficult fight. My Hero Academia is being pretty solid right now. That sales number without anime in almost one year is a proof that Hero Academia has consolidated as the second Jump franchise manga after One Piece.

Awfully confident about Samurai 8, considering no one is really sure how well it'll actually do.

 

[Ctkk]

What about JJK? It's growing the most out of anything in Jump. Do you think it'll join the 500K club eventually?

 

[Rain Spectre]

What about JJK? It's growing the most out of anything in Jump. Do you think it'll join the 500K club eventually?

Impossible to say. It's growth has been crazy good, so it's entirely possible after the anime it'll get there.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

What about JJK? It's growing the most out of anything in Jump. Do you think it'll join the 500K club eventually?

I hope so, but my main concern is that Jujutsu is by far the most irrelevant Jump manga in West. Nobody outside Japan cares about Jujutsu, while Chainsawman is already more popular

 

[Ctkk]

I hope so, but my main concern is that Jujutsu is by far the most irrelevant Jump manga in West. Nobody outside Japan cares about Jujutsu, while Chainsawman is already more popular

I'm sure it'll be a thing once the anime starts. Just look at Kimetsu.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I hope so, but my main concern is that Jujutsu is by far the most irrelevant Jump manga in West. Nobody outside Japan cares about Jujutsu, while Chainsawman is already more popular

Blame Antitubers sucking Dragon Ball Super and Samurai 8's dicks and not caring about the actual current layout of Jump.

 

[Jovan]

I'm sure it'll be a thing once the anime starts. Just look at Kimetsu.

Wasn't Kimetsu such a thing, that it had 4chan fans that translated it pre anime?

 

[101nemesis]

Yes, but the difference in sales between the first and last volume of Kimetsu are much, much smaller and in MHA's case.

You're not taking into consideration the time frame with which we are comparing Kimetsu volumes and MHA volumes. Put Kimetsu first and the then current volumes side by side after a year and you'll see a sizable difference.

 

[Ctkk]

Wasn't Kimetsu such a thing, that it had 4chan fans that translated it pre anime?

I don't really know, but in any case, it's a bigger thing now that it was before. 4chan fan-translations are a tier below established Edited Manga groups imo. It's not the same as appearing in Mangastream with mha, tpn, op, 7ds and basically every manga that's popular in the west.

Jujutsu is barely year old anyway. Things need time to catch on overseas, unless there's reason for the west to care from the beginning (i.e Kishimoto). Chainsaw-man is more an exception than the rule, but even then, doesn't the author have a pretty decent following online? Plus Fire Punch was licensed in a bunch of places, right?

 

[MangAniMY]

You're not taking into consideration the time frame with which we are comparing Kimetsu volumes and MHA volumes. Put Kimetsu first and the then current volumes side by side after a year and you'll see a sizable difference.

so use TPN instead of MHA..

Spoiler: all same date

 

[Rain Spectre]

I feel like no manga in this era "starts" huge. It's basically starting at the bottom and working your way up.

 

[101nemesis]

so use TPN instead of MHA..

Spoiler: all same date

Loll thanks!
Now give us the updated KnY charts showing last known values for the first and latest volumes, you chart freak

 

[Rain Spectre]

Loll thanks!
Now give us the updated KnY charts showing last known values for the first and latest volumes, you chart freak

Petition for that to become what everyone calls Mangani.

 

[MangAniMY]

Loll thanks!
Now give us the updated KnY charts showing last known values for the first and latest volumes, you chart freak

I like the anomaly from vol. 11, I find it interesting

it is like race conditions, but for sales