Keep in mind you can't compare current Attack on Titan with what it would have been if it was in Jump. Not only are things such as pacing completely different in weekly and monthly series (why I don't get people expecting Spy to be moved, luckily that has died down) but Monthly Shonen Magazine (which really isn;t a smaller monthly magazine btw) and Weekly Shonen Jump's editorial departments are completely different so editor changes (including what is actually changed) would probably make them almost 2 completely different series.
1)I can agree with the slow paced beginning and bad art could lead it to being axed
they picked it. Just like I can go into McDonald's and ask for a burger with no lettuce but only Burger King's motto says "Have it your way". There's no rule other company's manga can't have the same style.
No point in trying to understand it now. Jump retired the motto sometime in the 2010s.
I don't disagree with the bigger point, but Shingeki doesn't run in Monthly Shonen Magazine (which I agree, isnt small at all), it runs in Bessatsu, which is in fact a smaller and newer magazine (it began together with shingeki, I believe).
We never learn is not a shojo or even shojo-esque. It has and always will be a shonen manga that appeals to males. Just because there are girls being moe/cute does not make it "shojo"(manga targeted towards girls). Idol anime, harem anime, and cute stuff like K-On and Umaru are targeted towards male audiences, and I recall the latter two are both from seinen magazines. Closest to being "shojo" in Jump is prob Mitama(don't read so not sure, but seen some people bring up the comparison and author being a fan of a shojo manga/magazine) and even that is a stretch IMO.
Last time I checked, Heishi and Nakano are two different people.
That’s the thing it doesn’t run in monthly shonen magazine (which is actually one of the hugest monthly magazines). It is serialized in bessatsu shonen magazine which the magazines main purpose was pushing the boundaries of what shonen manga can do (basically seinen targeted at a young audience which is no where near what jump is). Since the magazine only have a 60,000 copy circulation and started with 10-12 series there was no need to censor dark and mature expressions and no need for it to be axed during its first few chapters. Shonen jump on the other hand had 20-23 series running during 2009, filled to the brim with hit series, was beyond mainstream, and is the go to magazine for preteen age kids due to most series at the time going by the shonen jump motto. Again it’s poor art, extremely long dialogue, and slow pacing on the first chapter is the reason why it would have been cancelled Zipman style. Also the fact that it is a weekly magazine makes it even worse as a bunch of the slow pacing for attack on titan is important so it either wouldn’t be as good or there would be a substantial amount of development each chapter.
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I didn’t mean that it was 100% shojo I meant that would have a good amount of appeal to the shojo crowd while also appealing to the core readership of shonen jump.
Ok that doesn’t make any sense. Even if there are a few series that stand out from the rest (even the more stand out series goes by at least one thing in the motto) that still doesn’t change the fact that the majority does still go by it. The majority of jump series are still action and or comedies that still go by the slogan. Probably the only series I can think of that doesn’t go by any of them is death note ( even then both L and light work hard to get to there goal so that can be considered as effort.
Yozakura has to be one of the biggest disappointments of the past several serializations along with GOTW
Well, yeah, editorial itself outright said it's almost inevitable at least some fingerprints of the motto will appear if just because of how author influences are works which were produced under the motto. But the motto itself isn't in use, and Jump's editorial don't enforce it.
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I don't consider it a disappointment as much as it's just not much of anything. It's a series with decent ideas but literally zero execution which seems to just mindlessly drift between premises on a whim without much cohesion.
I don't know about successful, but The Last Saiyuki, could have easily survived if it was in Sunday or Champion I think.
I will always swear by Hungry Joker!
Since shonen magazine is known for its mystery/ death game manga than I would probably say enigma and psyren (technically can be considered way to long to be considered canned but looking at the toc and sells it was definitely underrated). I feel they would have been extremely massive hits on those magazine. Both series are not only my favorite underrated jump series but one my favorite jump series (only set backs are rushed endings). Both have a good amount of content with enigma having 7 volumes and psyren having 15 volumes.
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Yea that series is way better than black clover.I will always swear by Hungry Joker!
Look, if the politically correct was the reason to hate time paradox, then chainsaw man and undead unluck should have been canceled already, after all there are many things wrong with these works much worse than the plagiarism addressed in time paradox.
...When the hell was this about political correctness?
I think what he was trying to say was why are they letting the sexual assault jokes in undead unluck slide but not the plagerism in time paradox ghost writer.
This is totally politically correct, friend.
To add to that a lot of jump manga have worst themes in there manga yet they don’t receive a significant amount of controversy.